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not once did anyone ask about/speak about
the vaccine.... do you think they will start making the
masks in colors, cuz i want a purple one.
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What the heck???

No wonder I don't watch TV....I would have to throw a shoe at it!
I can't bear to watch this programming being done to the masses.
Yes, the masks do add a nice touch.... lol!
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day wrote:
Northern Boy wrote:
I have read some where in the last three days that 53-57 % of all doctors are not going to be taking the Shot in Canada

could it possibly be....that a wrench is in the works for mass vaccinations??

Could it be, that enough people are waking up to make a change?'

Could this be an event were people make a new history, instead of following someone elses well laid out plans?

I think you are so correct that your explanation is exactly it. Freedom thoughts infiltrating the planets grid and making a change.
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flower

hey guys

i heard the announcement yesterday that in PA the state and the fed are making it mandatory for kids to have three shots or they can't start school in the fall
i was fully expecting to here..swine flu
but
it was
chicken pox..tetines and ..something else
tons of parents are pissed and shouting..
they came back with
You won't believe this

they came back with the info that there is ..in place right now a way for people to
refuse any vaccination
on moral or reliegious reasons and the state can't make you take em

so holy information, batman....we are getting somewhere

peek


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There is also a waiver that you can ask for in a lot of states for your children not to be vaccinated. But what they don't tell you is, if you get the waiver and use it, your children will not be allowed in school, and then your name will be turned over to CPS for your children being absent from school.
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i like schech's approach the best: lie, say you already had the flu...
the health care types may not care about your religious beliefs
but will understand if you say you already had the flu...
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Lets make it National SKIP day at the schools and National Mental Health day off at the job sites.........................then we are not lying......hack a little in the phone as you do this.
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sorry, mn, i know your honorable heart is in the right place, but...
got no job, don't go to school...
don't even have a phone!
so, i'm stickin' with the lie
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Report: White House Weighing Federal Quarantine Rules 05 Aug 2009

The Obama White House may be preparing to enact new federal quarantine regulations that were first put forth by the Bush administration almost four years ago, according to a report from Politico.com.

While the Obama administration has been tight lipped about the possible new regulations,
the Bush-era proposal sought to give the federal government,

"the authority to order a provisional quarantine of three business days or up to six calendar days, for those suspected of having swine flu or other illnesses listed in a presidential executive order," the Politico report said.

http://cbs4.com/health/flu.quarantine.rules.2.1115637.html
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Do you know the EO#
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No, I wish I did.
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did you wait til 11:11 to post this mz linda?
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What? Oh my... lol!
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Not directly about swine flu but shows how big pharma cannot be trusted. More truth coming out.
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WineHippie wrote:
did you wait til 11:11 to post this mz linda?

Great eye there sister.
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Will Americans follow orders to take flu shots?
Alarmist language sparking fears of mandatory vaccinations, quarantines
Posted: August 11, 2009
10:56 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
©️ 2009 WorldNetDaily


Avian flu viruses like this one have raised worries in the past similar to those being raised by this year's swine flu

Alarmist language over possible outbreaks of swine flu as well as a series of moves by the federal government are fueling fears federal agents will soon be forcing citizens to be vaccinated – prompting one political party to launch a pre-emptive defense against any such effort.

The Constitution Party, a fast-growing alternative to the dominant Democratic and Republican parties in many elections, has come out strongly in opposition to any "mandatory injections" of "potential toxic (H1N1) 'swine flu' vaccine."

Citing the Fourth Amendment, which says, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons … shall not be violated," Constitution Party National Committee Chairman Jim Clymer said the issue isn't that complex.

"It comes down to the most fundamental of all freedoms. If government can force potentially dangerous substances into our bodies what, then, can't government do to us?" he said.

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"Whether mandated by the federal government, the individual states such as Massachusetts or international organizations like the World Health Organization or the United Nations, forcing potentially dangerous chemicals on a free people is tyranny," Clymer said.

The Constitution Party cited the research of Bill Sardi, who noted the "cozy relationship" where the WHO "prematurely" declares a pandemic, forcing dozens of governments to buy flu vaccines. Then, he wrote, public health authorities invoke mandatory vaccination programs for children.

The enriched vaccine makers then "funnel profits back to the politicians."

The party noted the alarmist behavior on the part of the U.S. Departments of Health and Homeland Security, which earlier this year when "several people" were "diagnosed" with swine flu, declared a national public health emergency.

When that was declared in April, schools were closed, people quarantined and pharmaceutical companies awarded billion dollar contracts, the party explained.

Condemnation also has come from Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who cited the swine flu vaccination program in 1976. The effort killed more than two dozen people – not from the flu but from the vaccine.

Paul said he was concerned that "nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a 'potential pandemic flu' which could result in mandatory vaccinations for no discernable reason other than to enrich the pharmaceutical companies that make the vaccine."

Clymer also expressed concern about turning over decisions inside the United States to an international organization like the WHO. Adding other pieces to the puzzle, such as the Pentagon's involvement with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, just adds to his worries, he said.

According to a Fox report, the Pentagon is planning to make available military troops – if they are needed – to help FEMA respond to a flu outbreak.

The report said Defense Secretary Robert Gates is preparing to sign an order letting the military set up regional teams to help FEMA.

"Americans should be gravely concerned when all the pieces are put together," Clymer said. "We have a strain of flu which has produced mild symptoms so far, and yet it appears there's a well-orchestrated world-wide effort to put draconian measures in place for a 'pandemic.'"

Clymer also cited the WHO recommendations that would provide, essentially, for an indefinite stay in a quarantine camp for those who refuse a vaccination. He said the procedures that follow a "Level 6 Pandemic" allow international precedent to override U.S. constitutional guarantees of freedom.

The party statement said, "All liberty-loving Americans should shudder at the WHO directives which state: 'During a pandemic, it may be necessary to overrule existing legislation or (individual) human rights. Examples are the enforcement of quarantine (overruling individual freedom of movement), use of privately owned buildings for hospitals, off-license use of drugs, compulsory vaccination or implementation of emergency shifts in essential services."

No such extraordinary efforts are needed, the Constitution Party said, because according to the Centers for Disease Control, "the fear mongering regarding this flu is not warranted by forensic evidence that H1N1 is the potentially devastating plague the hyperbole purports it to be."

According to the Fox report, the bird flu frenzy during 2005 prompted the Bush administration to add influenza to the government's list of diseases for which quarantines are allowed, creating a path through which people who exhibit symptoms could be detained by government order.

Governors, however, according to a report from The Hill, are objecting to the potential involvement of the feds.

Gov. Jim Douglas, R-Vermont, head of the National Governors Association, and Vice Chairman Gov. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., wrote, "We are concerned that the legislative proposal … would invite confusion on critical command and control issues, complicate interagency planning, establish stove-piped response efforts, and interfere with governors’ constitutional responsibilities to ensure the safety and security of their citizens," Douglas and Manchin wrote to Paul Stockton, assistant secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and America's Security Affairs.

And the Fox report said even a spokesman for the Defense Department acknowledged the concerns "about civil liberties and the use of force."

Attorney Robert L. Shannon told the network the military generally isn't allowed to intervene in peoples' lives, "But it's important to remember that the president has the option and authority to use federal troops in a national emergency."

An ACLU spokesman told Fox that the idea of forced vaccinations or detentions would raise constitutional questions, and Michel Chossudovsky, writing on the Global Research website, said the implications are "far-reaching."

"The decision points toward the establishment of a police state," he said.

At Natural News.com, a warning was issued that more and more incidents are being reported involving forced vaccinations in the United States – usually through workplace or school demands.

"Attorney Alan Phillips, author of Dispelling Vaccination Myths, … got interested in the subject when he noticed the warning on a vaccination that was about to be administered to his infant child. The warning clearly stated that the odds of death from the vaccination were considerably higher than death from the diseases it was supposed to immunize," the report said.

The site even promotes a petition to halt forced vaccinations.

As the flu season approaches, a conference also has been scheduled to allow leaders of government and industry to consult on the potential problem.

The event in the past has been used to discuss various strains of bird flu, but this year is being called the International Swine Flue Conference. It's Aug. 19-20 at the Hyatt Regency Washington on Capitol Hill.

Among the topics to be considered are: "Unwillingness to follow government orders," "Control & diffuse social unrest & public disorder," "Protect police forces from falling ill & from being hurt in civil disturbances," and "Manage a surge in crime & meet routine requests at the same time."

The international flu conference, promoted by New-Fields.com, is being assembled for "top leaders and decision-makers" from a broad range of industries as well as "scientists, public health officials, law enforcers, first responders, and other experts."

The promotional brochure lists topics:

* Mass fatality management planning

* Country report and situations update

* Surveillance and data management

* Command, control and management, and others.


Meanwhile, the Associated Press is reporting that Americans in eight cities are preparing to take a swine flu vaccine that still is in the testing stages, in manufacturers' hopes that the vaccine will be on the market soon.
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As long as we are prepared spiritually and know that we are warriors, then nothing will frighten us. swordsman
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but i am not prepared!
i am imperfect
i still need work
i do not feel afraid
i feel suspicious and paranoid.....
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Nobody is perfect. We can only do the best we can now that we are finally honest with ourselves, learned our lessons and can finally look in the mirror.

As long as we are in touch with our inner self, have love in our hearts, show compassion, can forgive, show no fear and have a fighting spirit, then we will be OK.
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WineHippie wrote:
but i am not prepared!
i am imperfect
i still need work
i do not feel afraid
i feel suspicious and paranoid.....

Winehippie, please consider this,

you said but i am not prepared.

According to Y'shua Messiah, you are perfect in Gods eyes through your connection to source.
And this all rests on your thoughts of yourself, of course. We must learn to see ourselves as God sees us, and not as we feel.

You said I am imperfect,

Y'shua Messiah said, "these works I do you will do and greater works will you do because I go to my father". This guy raised people from the dead and yet he said this.

You said, I still need work!

Yes we all do, but the love factor of Y'shua Messiah has called you perfect because of our needed work.

You said, I do not feel afraid.
This is your spirit trying to break you through.

You said, I feel suspicious and paranoid,
This is normal feelings, as I feel them as well but I will not allow those feelings to cause me to fear anything or turn me from what the word says about me.

Your preparation has been your life. So you are prepared, in my opinion.
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clarification: i think i have a sense of what i SHOULD BE,
how i SHOULD react, etc

but i cannot make it work all of the time

i slip back into old habits, reactions, etc

my buttons are STILL THERE just waiting to be pushed

i have been trying for almost 40 years to get it right
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WineHippie, you have come a long way and are so precious. Just know that you will never be alone.

Listen and FEEL this song: Video: http://www.vimeo.com/2539741

When the night has come
And the land is dark
And the moon is the only light we'll see
No, I won't be afraid,
No, I won't be afraid
Just as long as you stand, stand by me.

group-hug We are all in this together and never forget that we WILL be there standing by you.
I love you sweet sister, daughter and friend.
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National Guard drill at high school to prepare for possible H1N1 riot
13 Aug 2009 (ME)

Oxford Hills Comprehensive High School will be the site of a National Guard riot control drill Thursday morning to prepare in the event of a panic over distribution of serum to treat the swine flu.

The school on Route 26 at the Paris-Norway town line has been designated by state officials as a distribution site for the H1N1 flu vaccine. The drill is to prepare for a worst-case scenario should the serum have to be transported from Augusta and people rush to get it.

On Thursday morning, four or five National Guard Humvees will travel from Augusta to Paris with vials of fake serum.

The National Guardsmen will take on the roles of panicked citizens and military police and practice what they would do, such as using tear gas, in the case of a riot.


Plans were developed in April [?] to have vials of serum sent from the federal government to Augusta, Parker said... Local police chiefs have also been involved in the planning, Parker said. In a real event, local police would be in charge of security once the serum arrives in Paris.

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Winehippie I think you are one of the most balanced ladies I have interacted with during the course of my life. Your strength and integrity override any short term doubts or fears. Keep being who you are.
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State deputizes dentists, others to help with vaccinations --Takes extra steps to battle flu in fall
13 Aug 2009

Massachusetts health authorities took the unprecedented step yesterday of deputizing dentists, paramedics, and pharmacists to help administer vaccines against both the seasonal flu and the novel swine strain expected to make a return visit in the fall.

In another emergency measure, regulators directed hospitals and clinics to provide [deadly] vaccine to all their workers and some volunteers.

full story here:
http://www.boston.com/news/health/articles/2009/08/13/state_asks_volunteers_to_aid_flu_vaccinations/
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