Another conman President

Reunite wrote:

Thanks, I was wondering if this is for real or not. If it was real what the businessman's name was.

Don't think it's real Reunite.....just an example on how easy it was to con us.

That's what I was thinking...I was trying to imagine Obama smoking

The story did sound fictional however I did a double take because I read this article recently.

Obama's health care plan: Illegal or unethical

President, Barack Obama has promised a massive change to “modernize health care by making all health records standardized and electronic.” Part of his ambitious health care program will be the computerizing of medical records of all Americans in order to make the health care process more cost-effective.

But even proponents of Obama's plan have mentioned that ensuring the privacy of patients' records in a nationalized computer network will be tricky. There are obvious concerns about hackers and system failures. And new online health record systems, such as Google Health are not currently subject to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, the national health privacy law.

This is especially true when you consider the advocates of implementing a program using so-called ‘v-chips’ containing all a person's medical information. No one has said how much information will be contained in those implants. DNA? AIDS information?

With so much information already being compromised within government security systems, how can Obama possibly promise confidentiality of such records?

Although in five years the VeriChip Corp., the US company creating microchip implants, has yet to turn a profit, it has been investing heavily -- up to $8 million a year -- to create new markets.

FULL ARTICLE

If they got the NSA to do the security I might be convinced, but so far the only governments that have been able to secure thier systems are the European Banking systems - those systems are very secure. After all they have the illuminati money in them :)

The UK government have shown already how dangerous this can be - much leakage of data.

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Being in the health field, I have been following these things for years. I stopped going to any kind of doctor, even for routine checkups or tests after I became informed of this evil plan 5 years ago.

There is no such thing as privacy and chips are already being implanted without your knowledge.

A trusted source of mine told me chips are put in unsuspecting patients in some dental offices.
When I asked if they did it to everyone, the answer was only to some who "supervise" others.
In other words, those who manage others. And yes, there was a list.

Subject: $64,000 Question

DURING THE "NETWORK SPECIAL ON HEALTH CARE".... OBAMA WAS ASKED:

"MR. PRESIDENT WILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GIVE UP YOUR CURRENT HEALTH CARE PROGRAM AND JOIN THE NEW 'UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE PROGRAM' THAT THE REST OF US WILL BE ON ????".....
(BET YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER)...

THERE WAS A STONEY SILENCE AS OBAMA IGNORED THE QUESTION AND CHOSE NOT TO ANSWER IT....

IN ADDITION, A NUMBER OF SENATORS WERE ASKED THE SAME QUESTION AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS...
"WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT."

AND THEY DID.

IT WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY ON THE NEWS THAT THE "KENNEDY HEALTH CARE BILL" WAS WRITTEN INTO THE NEW HEALTH CARE REFORM INITIATIVE, ENSURING THAT THAT CONGRESS WILL BE 100% EXEMPT !

This should speak volumes to all of us.

SO, THIS GREAT NEW HEALTH CARE PLAN THAT IS GOOD FOR YOU AND ME... IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR OBAMA, HIS FAMILY OR CONGRESS...??
WE (THE AMERICAN PUBLIC) NEED TO STOP THIS PROPOSED DEBACLE ASAP !!!!... THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG !!!!!

IF YOU AGREE PLEASE PASS THIS INFORMATION ON ....
IF NOT PLAN TO SUFFER WITH THE OBAMA HEALTH CARE PLAN ....FOR FREE....
WHILE OUR SELF-SERVING POLITICIANS MAKE SURE THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES AT OUR EXPENSE.

FW: well said

The following letter is rapidly circulating around the country. Americans everywhere identify with this 53-year -old woman. She has given us a voice.
(Her letter was read on the Glenn Beck show.) Once you read this, you will want to forward it to all of your friends...

GLENN BECK: I got a letter from a woman in Arizona . She writes an open letter to our nation's leadership:

I'm a home grown American citizen, 53, registered Democrat all my life. Before the last presidential election I registered as a Republican because I no longer felt the Democratic Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me.
Now I no longer feel the Republican Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me.

The fact is I no longer feel any political party or representative in Washington represents my views or works to pursue the issues important to me.
There must be someone.
Please tell me who you are . Please stand up and tell me that you are there and that you're willing to fight for our Constitution as it was written.

Please stand up now. You might ask yourself what my views and issues are that I would horribly feel so disenfranchised by both major political parties. What kind of nut job am I? Will you please tell me?

Well, these are briefly my views and issues for which I seek representation:

One: Illegal Immigration.
I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty, not again. Been there, done that, no resolution.
P .S., I'm not a racist. This isn't to be confused with legal immigration.

Two: The TARP Bill.
I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you no, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal.

Three: Czars.
I want the circumvention of our checks and balances stopped immediately. Fire the czars. No more czars. Government officials answer to the process, not to the president. Stop trampling on our Constitution and honor it.

Four: Cap and Trade.
The debate on global warming is not over. There is more to say.

Five: Universal Healthcare.
I will not be rushed into another expensive decision. Don't you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night and then go on break. Slow down!

Six: Growing Government Control.
I want states rights and sovereignty fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. Shrink it down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with your real obligations. Why don't you start there.

Seven: ACORN.
I do not want ACORN and its affiliates in charge of our 2010 census. I want them investigated. I also do not want mandatory escrow fees contributed to them every time on every real estate deal that closes. Stop the funding to ACORN and its affiliates pending impartial audits and investigations.
I do not trust them with taking the census over with our taxpayer money. I don't trust them with our taxpayer money.
Face up to the allegations against them and get it resolved before taxpayers get any more involved with them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, hello.
Stop protecting your political buddies. You work for us, the people. Investigate.

Eight: Redistribution of Wealth.
No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs. That is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person. Why do you want me to hate my employers? Why -- what do you have against shareholders making a profit?

Nine: Charitable Contributions.
Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and our local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.

Ten: Corporate Bailouts.
Knock it off. Sink or swim like the rest of us. If there are hard times ahead, we'll be better off just getting into it and letting the strong survive. Quick and painful. Have you ever ripped off a Band-Aid? We will pull together. Great things happen in America under great hardship. Give us the chance to innovate. We cannot disappoint you more than you have disappointed us.

Eleven: Transparency and Accountability.
How about it? No, really, how about it? Let's have it. Let's say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk. Please try -- please stop manipulating and trying to appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you obviously take me for.
Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to your criminal investigation. Stop hiding things from me.

Twelve: Unprecedented Quick Spending - - - Stop It Now.

Take a breath. Listen to the people.
Let's just slow down and get some input from some nonpoliticians on the subject. Stop making everything an emergency.
Stop speed reading our bills into law. I am not an activist. I am not a community organizer. Nor am I a terrorist, a militant or a violent person. I am a parent and a grandparent. I work. I'm busy. I'm busy. I am busy, and I am tired.

I thought we elected competent people to take care of the business of government so that we could work, raise our families, pay our bills, have a little recreation, complain about taxes, endure our hardships, pursue our personal goals, cut our lawn, wash our cars on the weekends and be responsible contributing members of society and teach our children to be the same all while living in the home of the free and land of the brave.

I entrusted you with upholding the Constitution. I believed in the checks and balances to keep from getting far off course. What happened?

You are very far off course. Do you really think I find humor in the hiring of a speed reader to unintelligently ramble all through a bill that you signed into law without knowing what it contained? I do not. It is a mockery of the responsibility I have entrusted to you. It is a slap in the face. I am not laughing at your arrogance.

Why is it that I feel as if you would not trust me to make a single decision about my own life and how I would live it but you should expect that I should t rust you with the debt that you have laid on all of us and our children. We did not want the TARP bill. We said no. We would repeal it if we could. I am sure that we still cannot. There is such urgency and recklessness in all of the recent spending.

From my perspective, it seems that all of you have gone insane. I also know that I am far from alone in these feelings.

Do you honestly feel that your current pursuits have merit to patriotic Americans? We want it to stop. We want to put the brakes on everything that is being rushed by us and forced upon us. We want our voice back. You have forced us to put our lives on hold to straighten out the mess that you are making.

We will have to give up our vacations, our time spent with our children, any relaxation time we may have had and money we cannot afford to spend on you to bring our concerns to Washington .

Our president often knows all the right buzzword is unsustainable. Well, no kidding. How many tens of thousands of dollars did the focus group cost to come up with that word? We
don't want your overpriced words. Stop treating us like we're morons.

We want all of you to stop focusing on your reelection and do the job we want done, not the job you want done or the job your party wants done. You work for us and at this rate I guarantee you not for long because we are coming. We will be heard and we will be represented.

You think we're so busy with our lives that we will never come for you?
We are the formerly silent majority, all of us who quietly work , pay taxes, obey the law, vote, save money, keep our noses to the grindstone and we are now looking up at you. You have awakened us, the patriotic spirit so strong and so powerful that it had been sleeping too long.

You have pushed us too far. Our numbers are great. They may surprise you. For every one
of us who will be there, there will be hundreds more that could not come. Unlike you, we have their trust. We will represent them honestly, rest assured.. They will be at the polls on voting day to usher you out of office. We have cancelled vacations. We will use our last few dollars saved. We will find the representation among us and a grassroots campaign will flourish.

We didn't ask for this fight. But the gloves are coming off.
We do not come in violence, but we are angry. You will represent us or you will be replaced with someone who will. There are candidates among us when he will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes that you have made of our constitution.

Democrat, Republican, independent, libertarian. Understand this. We don't care.
Political parties are meaningless to us. Patriotic Americans are willing to do right by us and our Constitution and that is all that matters to us now. We are going to fire all of you who abuse power and seek more. It is not your power. It is ours and we want it back..

We entrusted you with it and you abused it. You are dishonorable. You are dishonest. As Americans we are ashamed of you. You have brought shame to us. If you are not representing the wants and needs of your constituency loudly and consistently, in spite of the objections of your party, you will be fired.
Did you hear?

We no longer care about your political parties. You need to be loyal to us, not to them. Because we will get you fired and they will not save you.
If you do or can represent me, my issues, my views, please stand up. Make your identity known.
You need to make some noise about it. Speak up. I need to know who you are. If you do not speak up, you will be herded out with the rest of the sheep and we will replace the whole damn congress if need be one by one.

We are coming. Are we coming for you? Who do you represent? What do you represent? Listen. Because we are coming.
We the people are coming.

It's over for them and they know it, because it is written. This is the climax of the world that was episode and our percipitation as individuals in it.

Why are you here? Why are you being hammered like you are? Why are you trying to learn the way to become a better soul while the whole world around you is corrupt and you find yourself overwhelmed at every turn? Why are you hated? Why is life so hard?

What kind of loving GOD would do this to you and me??? I will tell you about the kind of Living God that would do this to you, the kind that knows that you are tough and will not BOW your knee to Satan and or the NWO, but will fight through this shit that's looks like it is too big to defeat, but in reality is why you are here NOW and WHY we are together at this time, it is because you win.

You are here because you did this before, and The God of the Universe can depend on you to do it again, that is what is called the elect. God put you here because he knows your metal, and he knows he can count on you to do it again, it really is that simple.

You are here because you did this before, and The God of the Universe can depend on you to do it again, that is what is called the elect. God put you here because he knows your metal, and he knows he can count on you to do it again, it really is that simple.


How can you be sure God is a he ?

I can't be, because one of Gods names is the many breasted one. What do you say to that?

What say me to that ?

Well Gabriel I'm an Animist and someone who finds it unusual that the concept of 'God' has to be anthropomorphized.

I for one do not think that God has to be anthropomorphized at all. God to my way of thinking is a non gender entity, and at the same time can be any gender he wants to be at whatever time he chooses.

Back when I had my first contact with God, the being in my room appeared to me as a man with a beard, so naturally I use the male gender when I speak of God, nothing more sinister than that...LOL, and I find it rather unusual that you find me personalizing God as a male to be unusual.

If I am not mistaken, people have been doing that since people were on this planet, so why the surprise at me just doing what humans do?

As for being an Animist, so am I as I understand the dictionary meaning of the word.

If I am not mistaken, people have been doing that since people were on this planet, so why the surprise at me just doing what humans do?

You could be mistaken.

Yes even as you could be. Can you explain to me where it is written, that people should not personalize God and if they do why it offends you as it seemingly does? Why does this trouble you LongHunter?

Who said I was troubled, Gabriel ?

Well you made the post about me personalizing God and later you said I may be wrong? Well if you can explain to me how I am wrong by doing that please help me? Otherwise why post it?

I am open to instruction. I await your response.

I'm aware of what I said, but don't be so hasty in judging someone's emotional state just because they offer an opinion that doesn't match yours.

Why post it ?

Well Gabriel I thought this site to be one where a person can post anything he or she desires as long as it's civil and does not offend.

I do not understand your thoughts about personalizing God? I judge you by the words you wrote to my response? I am not here to gain converts LongHunter or to change anyones opinion, and if you would have read a few of my past posts on my personal page, you would have known that.

I do not desire you to have an opinion as mine, but when someone posts that I may be wrong about something I have said, then I will always ask for the reasons why? I have found this a good way to learn things.

If my personalizing God is or could be wrong, as you said, then I have the right to ask why? and can you explain why I may be wrong?

If this question is judging your emotional state, then that is a problem you will have to deal with as that is not my intention by asking a question.

You can post anything you want to here as far as I know.

My question remains? Why would it be wrong to personalize God?

"My question remains? Why would it be wrong to personalize God?"


And where did I say it would be wrong ?

LongHunter wrote:

If I am not mistaken, people have been doing that since people were on this planet, so why the surprise at me just doing what humans do?

You could be mistaken.

Right here you say I may be wrong by attributing human like characteristics to God. And that I may be wrong that people have been doing this since people were here on this planet.

This is where you said it.

My question is why? It is a simple question?

"If this question is judging your emotional state, then that is a problem you will have to deal with as that is not my intention by asking a question."

Then perhaps the question should of been - Are you troubled ? instead of - "Why does this trouble you ?"

Gabriel wrote:

LongHunter wrote:

If I am not mistaken, people have been doing that since people were on this planet, so why the surprise at me just doing what humans do?

You could be mistaken.

Right here you say I may be wrong by attributing human like characteristics to God. And that I may be wrong that people have been doing this since people were here on this planet.

This is where you said it.

My question is why? It is a simple question?

That's right, you 'could' be mistaken, just like me.

You have left me with the conclusion that you do not have an answer to my question as to, how I may be wrong.

So I will close by saying this to you. I have seen God face to face on at least 2 occasions, once was in his home, and he looks just as human as you and I do, so that is why I personalize God as having human characteristics.

There is a scripture that says, God made man in his image. The scripture word does not imply gender.

I am still puzzled at your post of saying I may be wrong about personalizing God.

I gave you every opportunity to help me out and you choose not to, that is your right not to explain just as it is mine to ask questions.

I hope you have a good day LongHunter.

"There is a scripture that says, God made man in his image. The scripture word does not imply gender."

God made MAN in His own image

The scripture word does not imply gender

Perhaps you have answered your own question. Keep in mind it was not my intention to challenge your beliefs Gabriel, but when ever I hear or read The Force or The Great Mystery being refered to as a he, I am compelled to asked questions.

I never felt you were challenging my beliefs LongHunter, I only wanted to know how or why it may be an incorrect thing to attach human characteristics in a personalized God?