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PostSubject: Chip Me Not   Chip Me Not Icon_minitimeThu Sep 23, 2010 3:42 pm

This is mind boggling:

http://www.chipmenot.org/

Warning BIgs don't read.
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PostSubject: Re: Chip Me Not   Chip Me Not Icon_minitimeThu Sep 23, 2010 6:54 pm

It's about the cancer those poor animals get when chipped I bet. If I had known this in the beginning I would not have got my furry friends microchipped.

Another conspiracy.
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PostSubject: Re: Chip Me Not   Chip Me Not Icon_minitimeThu Sep 23, 2010 7:19 pm

This doesn't surprise me at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Chip Me Not   Chip Me Not Icon_minitimeThu Sep 23, 2010 9:39 pm

Not just cancer Bigs, but your right. It was the deceptive sell. Many people were fooled. It Dr. Ruth Albright's site. What shocked me was that most of the animal shelter adoptees are microchipped. These people stop at nothing with trying to make money off the chips they initially developed to sell to people, instilling fear in parents to get their children and pets microchipped in case they get lost or kidnapped, all the while knowing the health hazzards of doing so.
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PostSubject: Re: Chip Me Not   Chip Me Not Icon_minitimeThu Sep 23, 2010 10:05 pm

I am scratching my head L2 wondering what I can do to make sure my furry friends get back to me if somehow they get out and are lost as I will not be microchipping; although having said that I dont think your allowed to adopt here from a shelter unless you get your pet neutered and microchipped. What in the hell am I gonna do about the chips.

I was thinking just a good collar with tags saying reward if returned and address and phone number, it makes it hard trying to think, how can I adopt when I dont want them chipped and they wont let you adopt if their not chipped.
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PostSubject: Re: Chip Me Not   Chip Me Not Icon_minitimeThu Sep 23, 2010 10:37 pm

Maybe breeders can offer you the alternative. I love to adopt shelter animals because they are in so need of love and care. But this puts a whole new spin on the situation. It's a major operation for the animal to have it removed and no guarantees.

I think that's about all you can do with the collar and pray they don't wander off and the person that finds them knows how you feel and makes every attempt to return them. I think it's the best solution for now.
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PostSubject: Re: Chip Me Not   Chip Me Not Icon_minitimeFri Sep 24, 2010 8:17 am

sunny

Hi guys

you gotta know i luv my critters so that is why i feel i need to say this
for everything there are two sides and many factors that need to be considered

i have one pooch from the shelter and he has a chip..i had no choice about it
he's a good 70 pounds and has had no problems
i have another pooch from a breeder and he has no chip..because i did have a choice

i think it has a lot to do with the early models because when the younger dog went to the vet to be nuetered
we had a nice long conversation about it and it seems that there have been three models sold to vets so far
they feel that this third model is safer than the others and that small dogs had a high potential for problems
than the larger dogs
and if you noticed most dogs at this site were smaller breed and in the registered category
promting two questions for me.
inbredding and instead of the vets inserting the chip it was done by vet techs..
or even untrained vets...it seems there are good and no so good ways and placement of insertion

when at the vets i inquired as to who does the chip placement and they said the vet does and you can be present
the same as when you get rabies and other shots
i didn't think to ask at the time if the chip was sterile going into the dog and if it went in dry or with a salince solution
as i think this might need to be answered

knowing all this i didn't get one put into the younger dog..i put my cash into a collar with his name and my phone number
if the collar comes off..we're screwed..

another thing that i learnt from the vet was that early on the shelters and dog catchers had a chip reader that could only read one chip
now most have a universal reader that can read all of the chips currently being used..and the vet said there are three

so while i wouldn't hesitate to get another dog from a shelter..i wouldn't volunteer to have a foriegn object inserted into my pooch
just wanted to say that

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PostSubject: Re: Chip Me Not   Chip Me Not Icon_minitimeFri Sep 24, 2010 8:34 am

not to worry, mz biggz - there are plenty of people who would not take
critter to shelter if they had a person who take it ... find someone
like me, who has baby critters and is begging someone to adopt ...
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i agree with lightning, we have been slowly brainwashed to accept the
chip, only hopefully more people are awake and won't fall for it -
first they chipped pets, then kid's and alzheimer's patients, then
they started chipping people with their medical files - they used
fear: fear of losing pet, fear of child being kidnapped, fear of grandma
wandering away down some busy, dangerous street and fear that
if someone takes you to hospital in an emergency, doctors won't know
who you are or what meds you are on - all FEAR
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typical problem - action - (their) solution
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but you, mz. biggz, will not have to worry or be afraid - when you
get your own little place, you will adopt critters as you find them
and they will not leave you, or get lost, they will not be chipped, they
will know they found their own heaven here and they will reward you
with love and loyalty
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PostSubject: Re: Chip Me Not   Chip Me Not Icon_minitimeFri Sep 24, 2010 9:22 am

love

Hippie

please don't think i am pro chipping..i am not
i think it is horribly de-humanizing and agree
with all the fear reasons you said
and i would not do it to any critter or anything else

i was only trying to say that i would not pass up a shelter critter
because it was chipped

i wish i had the resources to take in more but i am not stupid and
can only afford so many critters at one time
the ads in the paper break my heart of folks forced to
give up pets becaue of foreclosures...a lot of these
critters end up in shelters if they are lucky and not just dumped
or left
a lot of them do have chips already and i wouldn't disqualify them because of it

but i would learn as much about chips as i could if i took one of those shelter critters
which i have......
i researched it not because i am in agreement with it
but
because i happen to adopt a critter they did it too and wanted as much info
as i could so i could watch for any problems
love
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