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nogroz Member
Number of posts : 300 Registration date : 2009-03-12
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:33 pm | |
| Yes a single 'cell' most likely but not 'in the flesh' Also I believe the young appear as 'orbs' or glowing spheres... while the old ones grow huge and flatten out...
They are playful and aware of us, something we first spotted in WWII, the 'foo fighters' that toyed wit our airplanes and equally with the Axis powers...
Now lets look at some facts...
A UFO spaceship changing shape does not make sense... yet an amoeba like life form would be expected to change shape...
Critter theory explains:
1) Why there are so many just flying around at random, seemingly with no purpose.
2) Why they can execute amazing maneuvers and not damage the 'crew'. The critter would no more feel effects of inertia than a lightning bolt would
3) Why the lack of hard evidence... critters are energy, therefore would not leave any physical trace (though there have been reports of strange gossimer material drifting to earth)
4) Why you cannot take a clear picture of them... there is no hard surface to focus on... just a field of energy... (This would also be true of a Spacecraft with an energy field or barrier...)
5) In the day they are fuzzy, at night they glow against the blackness of space. They appear to be able to set a level of energy as seen in the STS 80 clip where one is almost invisible then suddenly brightens up
6) Why they are seen around thunder storms (a high source of plasma) and why they were swarming the tether in STS 75... like 'moths to a flame'... and most likely feeding on the energy
I have more but no time to dig em up... but think about it and compare sightings... you will quickly figure out which are critters, which are 'ours' and which are true visitors (not counting hoaxes of course)
Can we kill them? I am not sure... our energy stuff like DEW particle beams and lasers, and the powerful radio waves from HAARP and similar facilities might do them harm...
So far as can be told... they are harmless... none have ever attacked one of our ships though they seem very curious
I really should spend more time studying them than posting in forums... sigh.... | |
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New World Orphan Member
Number of posts : 709 Location : http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com/ Humor : No thank you Registration date : 2009-02-17
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:13 am | |
| So should one assume that they come from earth? | |
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nogroz Member
Number of posts : 300 Registration date : 2009-03-12
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:31 am | |
| Not sure... they may be all over the solar system... no way to tell... yet | |
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micjer Senior Member
Number of posts : 5325 Age : 62 Location : canada Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:29 am | |
| I have been wondering if any of the sci-fi movies or TV shows like star-trek ever showed anything like these. The PTB like to hide the truth in the open and they seem to send a lot of scripts to Hollywood. | |
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nogroz Member
Number of posts : 300 Registration date : 2009-03-12
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:48 pm | |
| - micjer wrote:
- I have been wondering if any of the sci-fi movies or TV shows like star-trek ever showed anything like these. The PTB like to hide the truth in the open and they seem to send a lot of scripts to Hollywood.
Oh come on now... that's called baiting... You know darn well that Star Trek already did the Giant Space Amoeba back in the sixties... "The Immunity Syndrome" January 19, 1968 http://mfile.akamai.com/7665/wmv/www.startrek.com/videouploads/200703/tos-048-hd/300k.asxThat one was sucking up so much energy it killed solar systems... This was one year before Apollo 11... OH and BTW I have a paper from NASA, a final contractor report dated 1964 that discusses em shields for space craft | |
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pilgrim Member
Number of posts : 554 Location : 3D Registration date : 2009-01-24
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:53 pm | |
| Nogroz, do you have any links or articles to look at regarding these 'critters'. I know nothing of them, but you have sparked my interest. Maybe a hint to some reputable sites to do some research on them. This stuff gets curiouser & curiouser.
Appreciate your imput so far, thanks. | |
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micjer Senior Member
Number of posts : 5325 Age : 62 Location : canada Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:56 pm | |
| Ya I was a huge star trek fan in the 60's / 70's. I thought there was an episode about this, but couldn't remember what it was called. Nice trailer btw. | |
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micjer Senior Member
Number of posts : 5325 Age : 62 Location : canada Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:24 am | |
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nogroz Member
Number of posts : 300 Registration date : 2009-03-12
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:18 pm | |
| - micjer wrote:
- Ya I was a huge star trek fan in the 60's / 70's. I thought there was an episode about this, but couldn't remember what it was called. Nice trailer btw.
Well then just for you... CBS has created remastered videos of the entire series and they are on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmjVOUW3SzoEnjoy "Is that a girl?" | |
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nogroz Member
Number of posts : 300 Registration date : 2009-03-12
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:20 pm | |
| - micjer wrote:
- What else is out there that we can't see. Even people with good "vision" really don't see much when you look at the whole spectrum..
The 'Predator' comes to mind... to bad I can't bring that to open forums :pickled alien: | |
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nogroz Member
Number of posts : 300 Registration date : 2009-03-12
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:31 pm | |
| - pilgrim wrote:
- Nogroz, do you have any links or articles to look at regarding these 'critters'.
I know nothing of them, but you have sparked my interest. Maybe a hint to some reputable sites to do some research on them. This stuff gets curiouser & curiouser.
Appreciate your imput so far, thanks. BIO-AEROGEL SPECULATIONS (c)1996 William Beaty Amazing Science http://amasci.com/freenrg/aerocrit.txtPlasma blobs hint at new form of lifeSeptember 2003 by David Cohen http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4174Could alien life exist in the form of DNA-shaped dust?10 August 2007 by Stephen Battersby http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12466-could-alien-life-exist-in-the-form-of-dnashaped-dust.htmlBoffins simulate plasma-eating dusty 'life-forms'http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/13/dusty_life_forms/Hot Gas in Space Mimics Life Electrically charged specks of interstellar dust organize into DNA-like double helixes and display properties normally attributed to living systems, such as evolving and reproducing, new computer simulations show. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070814_plasma_life.htmlPlasma Life Forms - Aliens From a Parallel Earthhttp://www.ezinearticles.com/?Plasma-Life-Forms%E2%80%94-Aliens-from-a-Parallel-Earth&id=930980Plasma Life Forms – Spheres, Blobs, Orbs and Subtle BodiesLife-Like Qualities of Plasma Bohm, a leading expert in twentieth century plasma physics, observed in amazement that once electrons were in plasma, they stopped behaving like individuals and started behaving as if they were a part of a larger and interconnected whole. Although the individual movements of each electron appeared to be random, vast numbers of electrons were able to produce collective effects that were surprisingly well organized and appeared to behave like a life form. The plasma constantly regenerated itself and enclosed impurities in a wall in the same way that a biological organism, like the unicellular amoeba, might encase a foreign substance in a cyst. So amazed was Bohm by these life-like qualities that he later remarked that he frequently had the impression that the electron sea was "alive" and that plasma possessed some of the traits of living things. The debate on the existence of plasma-based life forms has been going on for more than 20 years ever since some models showed that plasma can mimic the functions of a primitive cell. http://www.dapla.org/plasma_life_forms.htmPlasma Life Forms in SpaceAn international scientific team has discovered that under the right conditions, particles of inorganic dust can become organized into helical structures which can interact with each other in ways that are usually associated with organic life. Using a computer model of molecular dynamics, V N Tsytovich and his colleagues of the Russian Academy of Science showed that particles in plasma can undergo self-organization as electric charges become separated and the plasma becomes polarized in their paper entitled From Plasma Crystals and Helical Structures towards Inorganic Living Matter, published in the New Journal of Physics in August 2007. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=111062
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nogroz Member
Number of posts : 300 Registration date : 2009-03-12
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:41 pm | |
| Lightning, Ball Lightning and St Elmo's Fire are all plasma The charge collected by a tether satellite that causes the 'fluorescent tube' effect is a plasma sheath Plasma used on an aircraft can make the plane maneuver by altering plasm flow instead of needing ailerons to do this... The type of plane best suited to this method is the triangle... No its not reverse engineered tech... give us humans some credit. I first posted this in several forums when it was released to the public three years ago... but few paid attention http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/02files/Plasma_Actuators.html5/1/2006 AFRL Develops Plasma Actuator Computational Model http://www.wpafb.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=1230338476/6/2006 AFRL Proves Feasibility of Plasma Actuators http://www.wpafb.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123035000Note: If you cannot access .mil from your location I can print a copy Plasma is what attracted the 'critters' to the tether... and they were filmed with a special camera called TOP Tether Optical Phenomena Experiment. In other words they were filming an expected phenomenon | |
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nogroz Member
Number of posts : 300 Registration date : 2009-03-12
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:51 pm | |
| Are we looking for aliens in the wrong places?The universe is filled with massive clouds of dust. From past studies, scientists have learned that this cosmic dust can, in the presence of plasma, creates formations known as plasma crystals. An international team of researchers published a study in the Aug.14, 2007, issue of the New Journal of Physics that indicates that these crystals may be more sophisticated than anyone realized. In simulations involving cosmic dust, the researchers witnessed the formation of plasma crystals displaying some of the elementary characteristics of life -- DNA-like structure, autonomous behavior, reproduction and evolution. Before we get into how it works, let's talk about plasma. Plasma is the fourth state of matter. When gas is superheated, electrons are torn from atoms and become free floating. The gas then becomes ionized, carrying a positive charge. This superheated mix of ionized gas and free-floating electrons makes up plasma. Stars are mostly plasma, as is about 99 percent of the matter of the universe, though plasma is much less common on Earth, where we're used to dealing with solids, liquids and gases. Besides being found in stars and in our sun, plasma is transported by solar winds and magnetic fields, often coming into contact with dust clouds like those the researchers studied. When plasma comes into contact with a dust cloud, dust particles gather an electric charge by sucking up electrons from the surrounding plasma. This core of electrons in turn pulls in positively charged ions, forming plasma crystals. In the scientists' simulations, which were performed on the International Space Station and in a zero-gravity environment at a German research facility, the plasma crystals sometimes developed into corkscrew shapes or even the double-helix shape of DNA. These helix-shaped crystals retain an electric charge and show what the researchers called a self-organizing ability. Once in helix form, the crystals can reproduce by diving into two identical helixes, displaying "memory marks" on their structures [source: New Journal of Physics]. The diameter of the helixes varies throughout the structure and the arrangement of these various sections is replicated in other crystals, passing on what could be called a form of genetic code. How stuff works http://science.howstuffworks.com/weird-life.htm/printableFrom plasma crystals and helical structures towards inorganic living matterAbstract. Complex plasmas may naturally self-organize themselves into stable interacting helical structures that exhibit features normally attributed to organic living matter. The self-organization is based on non-trivial physical mechanisms of plasma interactions involving over-screening of plasma polarization. As a result, each helical string composed of solid microparticles is topologically and dynamically controlled by plasma fluxes leading to particle charging and over-screening, the latter providing attraction even among helical strings of the same charge sign. These interacting complex structures exhibit thermodynamic and evolutionary features thought to be peculiar only to living matter such as bifurcations that serve as 'memory marks', self-duplication, metabolic rates in a thermodynamically open system, and non-Hamiltonian dynamics. We examine the salient features of this new complex 'state of soft matter' in light of the autonomy, evolution, progenity and autopoiesis principles used to define life. It is concluded that complex self-organized plasma structures exhibit all the necessary properties to qualify them as candidates for inorganic living matter that may exist in space provided certain conditions allow them to evolve naturally. New Journal of Physics http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1367-2630/9/8/263Full PDF available free Plasma Physics from Laboratory to CosmosThe Life and Achievements of Hannes Alfvén PDF White Paper http://plasmascience.net/tpu/downloads/LifeAlfven.pdf | |
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micjer Senior Member
Number of posts : 5325 Age : 62 Location : canada Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:08 pm | |
| They sure didn't teach this in my physics class. Interesting read. Thanks N. | |
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micjer Senior Member
Number of posts : 5325 Age : 62 Location : canada Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:14 pm | |
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micjer Senior Member
Number of posts : 5325 Age : 62 Location : canada Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:34 pm | |
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Gabriel Contributor
Number of posts : 4957 Location : Ardmore oklahoma Humor : I hope so Registration date : 2009-01-24
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:51 pm | |
| mic, after meditating about black holes a few years ago, I learned that the black holes take in physical matter in one side and then spew out that matter on the other side as dark matter or the basic element of the matrix, and by doing so this is the cause of the expansion of the physical universe and the jets we see is this energy transfer taking place.
The black holes are the recycle machines of the universe, changing matter back to source material of dark matter/the creation elements of the universe.
Kinda of makes sense??? | |
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micjer Senior Member
Number of posts : 5325 Age : 62 Location : canada Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:10 am | |
| Yep. Nassim Haremein has explained this very thing.
Thanks Gabe! | |
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Biggles Senior Member
Number of posts : 5650 Location : Melbourne, Australia Humor : Some things just aren't funny. Registration date : 2009-03-12
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:14 pm | |
| Gee Gabe, You got it down man with the meditating and answers from there. | |
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Gabriel Contributor
Number of posts : 4957 Location : Ardmore oklahoma Humor : I hope so Registration date : 2009-01-24
| Subject: Re: Wtf are these light objects? Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:46 pm | |
| Thats all I have biggs and I am hoping it may be enough, otherwise I'm toast....LOL | |
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