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PostSubject: The Guilt Trip   The Guilt Trip Icon_minitimeTue Aug 11, 2009 3:19 pm

Well I took my 13 year old daughter to the doctor's today for her physical. When he brought up the Guardisil injection he wanted to give her right then and there I went off! He tried to lay the guilt trip on me about "don't you want to protect her from cancer" I just about lost it. I spewed back all the data I've been researching on the internet about how the injection isn't even proven to protect against it, the side effects, the limited testing of it before FDA approval and HPVs many different causes and how the vaccine was only designed to target less than 30% of those causes. I informed him that my daughter had also reasearched this and talked with friends who had received the injection and she was adamant not to have it and I agreed.

He was literally speechless! He dropped the topic but he then tried to tell me she needed the new MMR vaccine, again I insisted that she was not going to receive it as she already had the old one. He then proceeded to order all her vaccine records since she was born and told me she may have to have as many as 15 vaccines repeated!

Well I'm going to the Health Department to try and obtain the blue sheet for religious objections to being vaccinated for her. Wish me luck!!!!! :baby-monkey:
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PostSubject: Re: The Guilt Trip   The Guilt Trip Icon_minitimeTue Aug 11, 2009 3:41 pm

Did u ask him if the pharma companies had him on their payroll? I haven`t had a vaccine in over since 1972 and have no plans on ever receiving one again. The % of people that Guardisil protects is infinitely small. Chances are greater of your daughter suffering serious side effects from the vaccine then getting cervical cancer.
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PostSubject: Re: The Guilt Trip   The Guilt Trip Icon_minitimeTue Aug 11, 2009 3:49 pm

Lighting222 are you saying vaccinations are mandatory in your area???
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PostSubject: Re: The Guilt Trip   The Guilt Trip Icon_minitimeTue Aug 11, 2009 4:25 pm

The Guardisil and Flu Vaccine aren't yet but the "new and improved" Measles, Mumps and Rubella vaccine is mandatory for my daughter to have before she can return to school this fall. This was just sent out at the end of the school year and I couldn't believe it, no coverage in the media, no prior notice to parents except a small blurb in the school newspaper that went home with them on the last day of school.

I've been calling all around this summer to inquire about this to make sure they can do it. They can according to the state. I was hoping the doctor would be reasonable about it but he wasn't.

I have informed my daughter that if they try to line the kids up for injections at school she is to quietly leave the school grounds and come home. If for some reason they do not let her leave or try to stop her she is to call me and I will show up at school.

I am expecting a big fight on my hands. They have already notified us that her school will be a vaccination center (supposedly for the H1N1 vaccine this fall).
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PostSubject: Re: The Guilt Trip   The Guilt Trip Icon_minitimeTue Aug 11, 2009 4:30 pm

Northern Boy wrote:
Did u ask him if the pharma companies had him on their payroll? I haven`t had a vaccine in over since 1972 and have no plans on ever receiving one again. The % of people that Guardisil protects is infinitely small. Chances are greater of your daughter suffering serious side effects from the vaccine then getting cervical cancer.

I know the doctors don't get the information they should. He's normally very reasonable, I've had him cancel things in the past after I brought up the dangers to him, and he'd have a chance to research it. Lately however he looks like he's under pressure. I'm sure most doctors are.

I know the side effects of the Guardisil and I'm not willing to take the chance on the side effects. Less than 1000 girls were tested before the FDA approved it, that's unheard of. There is no data for long term effects, my guess is that a lot of these girls will become sterile at the very least.

I'm bracing for the event of the mandatory flu vaccine here this fall.
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PostSubject: Re: The Guilt Trip   The Guilt Trip Icon_minitimeTue Aug 11, 2009 4:36 pm

That is sickening news. Maybe there is one useful thing about religion, that is to exempt you from vaccinations. I guess your last resort would be to home school your daughter if that is fesible to your schedule.

My thoughts and intentions will be with you and your daughter.
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PostSubject: Vaccination Form for your Doctor   The Guilt Trip Icon_minitimeTue Aug 11, 2009 5:10 pm

I found this at David Icke`s web site perhaps you should take it in and see if he would be willing to sign it

Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety

I (Physician's name, degree)_________________________, _____ am a physician licensed to practice medicine in the State of ________________. My State license number is _______________ , and my DEA number is _______________. My medical specialty is ________________________

I have a thorough understanding of the risks and benefits of all the medications that I prescribe for or administer to my patients. In the case of (Patient's name) ___________________________ , age _________ , whom I have examined, I find that certain risk factors exist that justify the recommended vaccinations. The following is a list of said risk factors and the vaccinations that will protect against them:
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________

I am aware that vaccines typically contain many of the following fillers:

* aluminum hydroxide
* aluminum phosphate
* ammonium sulfate
* amphotericin B
* animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
* dog kidney, monkey kidney,
* chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
* calf (bovine) serum
* betapropiolactone
* fetal bovine serum
* formaldehyde
* formalin
* gelatin
* glycerol
* human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
* hydrolized gelatin
* mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate(r))
* monosodium glutamate (MSG)
* neomycin
* neomycin sulfate
* phenol red indicator
* phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
* potassium diphosphate
* potassium monophosphate
* polymyxin B
* polysorbate 20
* polysorbate 80
* porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
* residual MRC5 proteins
* sorbitol
* tri(n)butylphosphate,
* VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and
* washed sheep red blood

and, hereby, warrant that these ingredients are safe for injection into the body of my patient. I have researched reports to the contrary, such as reports that mercury thimerosol causes severe neurological and immunological damage, and find that they are not credible.

I am aware that some vaccines have been found to have been contaminated with Simian Virus 40 (SV 40) and that SV 40 is causally linked by some researchers to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and mesotheliomas in humans as well as in experimental animals. I hereby warrant that the vaccines I employ in my practice do not contain SV 40 or any other live viruses. (Alternately, I hereby warrant that said SV-40 virus or other viruses pose no substantive risk to my patient.)

I hereby warrant that the vaccines I am recommending for the care of (Patient's name) _______________ _______________________ do not contain any tissue from aborted human babies (also known as "fetuses").

In order to protect my patient's well being, I have taken the following steps to guarantee that the vaccines I will use will contain no damaging contaminants.

STEPS TAKEN: __________________________________________________ ____
__________________________________________________ __________________
__________________________________________________ __________________
__________________________________________________ __________________

I have personally investigated the reports made to the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) and state that it is my professional opinion that the vaccines I am recommending are safe for administration to a child under the age of 5 years.

The bases for my opinion are itemized on Exhibit A, attached hereto, -- "Physician's Bases for Professional Opinion of Vaccine Safety." (Please itemize each recommended vaccine separately along with the bases for arriving at the conclusion that the vaccine is safe for administration to a child under the age of 5 years.)

The professional journal articles I have relied upon in the issuance of this Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety are itemized on Exhibit B , attached hereto, -- "Scientific Articles in Support of Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety."

The professional journal articles that I have read which contain opinions adverse to my opinion are itemized on Exhibit C , attached hereto, -- "Scientific Articles Contrary to Physician's Opinion of Vaccine Safety"

The reasons for my determining that the articles in Exhibit C were invalid are delineated in Attachment D , attached hereto, -- "Physician's Reasons for Determining the Invalidity of Adverse Scientific Opinions."

Hepatitis B

I understand that 60 percent of patients who are vaccinated for Hepatitis B will lose detectable antibodies to Hepatitis B within 12 years. I understand that in 1996 only 54 cases of Hepatitis B were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 year age group. I understand that in the VAERS, there were 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from Hepatitis B vaccine in 1996 in the 0-1 year age group, with 47 deaths reported.

I understand that 50 percent of patients who contract Hepatitis B develop no symptoms after exposure. I understand that 30 percent will develop only flu-like symptoms and will have lifetime immunity. I understand that 20 percent will develop the symptoms of the disease, but that 95 percent will fully recover and have lifetime immunity.

I understand that 5 percent of the patients who are exposed to Hepatitis B will become chronic carriers of the disease. I understand that 75 percent of the chronic carriers will live with an asymptomatic infection and that only 25 percent of the chronic carriers will develop chronic liver disease or liver cancer, 10-30 years after the acute infection. The following scientific studies have been performed to demonstrate the safety of the Hepatitis B vaccine in children under the age of 5 years.
__________________________________________________ _____________________
__________________________________________________ _____________________
__________________________________________________ _____________________

In addition to the recommended vaccinations as protections against the above cited risk factors, I have recommended other non-vaccine measures to protect the health of my patient and have enumerated said non-vaccine measures on Exhibit D , attached hereto, "Non-vaccine Measures to Protect Against Risk Factors" I am issuing this Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety in my professional capacity as the attending physician to (Patient's name) ________________________________. Regardless of the legal entity under which I normally practice medicine, I am issuing this statement in both my business and individual capacities and hereby waive any statutory, Common Law, Constitutional, UCC, international treaty, and any other legal immunities from liability lawsuits in the instant case. I issue this document of my own free will after consultation with competent legal counsel whose name is _____________________________, an attorney admitted to the Bar in the State of __________________ .
__________________________________ (Name of Attending Physician)
__________________________________ L.S. (Signature of Attending Physician)
Signed on this _______ day of ______________ A.D. ________
Witness: _______________________________ Date: _____________________
Notary Public: ___________________________Date: ______________________
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PostSubject: Re: The Guilt Trip   The Guilt Trip Icon_minitimeTue Aug 11, 2009 5:30 pm

Thank you both. I have looked into home schooling, they are making it very difficult to do in our state. I will continue to research that option however.

Northern Boy, yes I saw that on DI's forum and I intend to print it out but hopefully we won't get to that point. I'm a fighter and stubborn too, I will persue every option before I will allow this nonsense of mandatory vaccinations to effect either my daughter's or my health.

bless you both!
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