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Not only is this footage very convincing, JFK's speech is magnificant. Remember this speech was in early 1960's. It is little wonder they (TPTB) had to eliminate him for their agenda.

Listen to his speech without watching the vid because it is hard to concentrate on both.

The last truly white hat peoples' President. RIP JFK!!!!
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whoa

you know M..i always wondered why she crawl to the back instead of ducking
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well i had to go do a search on who was driving when jfk was shot..tons of info on it even the guys name..

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/drivergreershotjfk.shtml


Zapruder Film Shows JFK's Driver Firing Fatal Head Shot

[Editor's Note: I read William Cooper's book, Behold a Pale Horse, in 1995. This was the book which first opened my eyes to the New World Order gang and their takeover agenda. Among many startling revelations in the book, Bill Cooper said that the secret service agent driving JFK's limo, William Greer, could be seen in the unedited Zapruder film placing a light colored (silvery or very light grey perhaps) 45 caliber automatic on his right shoulder, turning his head around, and shooting JFK in the right forehead area which blew a huge gaping hole out the right rear of Kennedy's head. After studying the Zapruder film, it's clear that Greer shoots Kennedy after Kennedy had already been hit with bullets from the rear (and probably a throat shot from the grassy knoll) which caused JFK to clutch his throat and turn towards Jackie who was sitting to his left. According to numerous witnesses, including Jean Hill (in red coat) and Mary Moorman (dark coat) -who were standing only a few feet way - Greer had momentarily brought the limo to a complete stop after the first three shots from the rear and then quickly sped off. The head shot to Kennedy's right forehead caused a massive explosion of blood and brain matter to burst around Kennedy's head and can be easily identified on photographs and in the unedited Zapruder frames. While in the Navy, Bill Cooper had a job with access to a top secret vault which contained a ONI report that said that Greer delivered the shot which caused Kennedy's head to explode.

After years of lawsuits, Zapruder finally forced the FBI to return his film, but what they gave him back was doctored. The doctored version removed critical frames and fudged other frames of the Zapruder film. The doctored film has Greer turning his head much faster than is physically possible, thus leading researchers to realize that frames were cut from the original print.

In a video taped lecture made somewhere in the late 1990's, I heard Bill Cooper say that he had closer-to-original Zapruder footage which clearly shows Greer shooting Kennedy. I knew that Cooper was making the video available, but I never actually saw the footage myself until a couple of days ago when I viewed a DVD sent to me by someone who asked me if I wanted to see the Zapruder clip. The clip is only 26 seconds long, but it's amazing to see. I have software from Nero that allows you to play back video at a very slow speed if desired. I slowed the clip down to 1/8th of its normal speed and watched the critical scenes over and over again. You have to keep your eyes on Greer and watch the clip repeatedly to fully absorb what is plainly there. The critical head shot occurs near the end of the 16th second of the Zapruder clip. The head shot by Greer occurs in Zapruder frame 313.

Update, August 9, 2007: I received a short note today from JB with three links to the 26 second Zapruder film which you can view on-line with your computer. The most impressive video of the three is narrated by Bill Cooper himself. It's titled " William Cooper - JFK Assassin Unmasked".

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1195700186205666634&q


Update, August 9, 2007: I received a short note today from JB with three links to the 26 second Zapruder film which you can view on-line with your computer. The most impressive video of the three is narrated by Bill Cooper himself. It's titled " William Cooper - JFK Assassin Unmasked".

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1195700186205666634&q

It's 46 minutes long and presents very clear and unmistakable slow motion so you can easily recognize Greer placing the silvery .45 automatic on this right shoulder, turning his head completely around to his right, aiming at Kennedy, and exploding Kennedy's head with that single shot. Greer then quickly faces the front, withdrawing the gun to his left side, leans forward somewhat and speeds off. .

The other two videos can be found at these links:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3139050966893233467&q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR1f6WRRhd0

While the two videos from the above links are reasonably clear, you can only see them from a small window on your computer and thus you can't see the detail that you get from a full screen presentation. Another problem with watching these videos on-line is that you can't slow down the speed and advance frame by frame. However, you can pause the video at any point and go back as often as you like. .

Update Dec. 1, 2007: I came upon a YouTube.com video that shows the Secret Service men that were following immediately behind JFK's limo pull back and stand down. while Kennedy's limo pulls forward -without them -for the final leg into the killing zone. Notice the agent who puts out his arms and shrugs his shoulders with a look that says "What? Pull back?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8) [more videos at link]

The video I received on DVD was an avi file in which the frame by frame quality of the video varies tremendously. Some frames show the video quite sharp and distinct, while other frames are highly pixelated and you can't see much detail. I tried to capture the sharpest looking individual frames so you could see the moment to moment action of Greer. I've posted some still frames at the bottom of the page from the Zapruder clip showing Greer a moment before the head shot, the head shot itself with its attendant explosion of blood and brain tissue, and the milliseconds following the fatal shot as Greer withdraws the gun from his right shoulder and down to his left side. He then speeds away.

Go to the bottom of this page to see the still frames that I captured from the Zapruder film which I enlarged and cropped and adjusted for maximum clarity and contrast, considering the quality of video that I had to work with. When you enlarge a still frame, although you loose sharpness of detail, you notice things that aren't apparent when viewed as a normal sized photo. I noticed that the top-of-the head hairline of Roy Kellerman seems to have been doctored to appear higher than it actually was, in order to give the impression that his "hair" meets the bottom of the gun and lead you to think that the gun was just a glint of reflection off the top of Kellerman's head-as many deceived viewers claim on the blogs attending the on-line videos. .

Since Bill Cooper published his book around 1994, it's possible that Larry was working on the story about the same time. Of course, Bill Cooper saw the ONI report likely in the 1970's or late 1960s, so he was privy to the info for a long time before Larry I'm sure, but publication is what counts, so I don't want to take anything away from Larry's efforts either.

As you will learn from the story below, agents William Greer and Roy Kellerman took chage of the Kennedy assassination cover-up from the moment they arrived at Parkland Hospital. It was likely Kellerman who placed the magical "pristine" bullet on Kennedy's stretcher which "proved " that Oswald was the assassin. According to Larry, it was Greer and Kellerman who arranged to hide Kennedy's body inside a military coffin that was taken out the back of Parkland Hospital. It was necessary to surgically alter Kennedy's head wounds so it didn't appear that a bullet had entered Kennedy's forehead. Kellerman even had to pull his gun out to stop the Dallas coroner who was attempting to open Kennedy's "official" casket in order to examine the body. A scuffle ensued with an FBI agent. Obviously, weights had been substituted inside Kennedy's "official" casket which was off-loaded in Washington and seen by TV viewers around the world.

I re-arranged some of the paragraphs and photos from Larry's original article to make the data flow more evenly. You can see the original at the link posted below. I want to publicly thank the fellow who sent me the DVD and the link to the Larry Jamison article seen below.....Ken]

by Larry Jamison
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/drivergreershotjfk.shtml
Posted August 8, 2007

http://community-2.webtv.net/Larry762/fontcolor3300FF/page4.html

Original Title:
Did the Limo Driver Shoot JFK?

John F. Kennedy and Jacqueline
This is a special photo of JFK and Jaqueline from happy days in their life. I registered as a Democrat to vote for John Kennedy. I cried as I drove home from Cabrillo Junior College (Santa Cruz County) that closed after the announcement was made about his assassination on Nov. 22, 1963, In 1992 I found out who really killed him and your time will be well spent as you read all fully documented proof I have found that the limousine driver, William Greer, actually fired the fatal shot that day. I even have a special section of "additional confirmations" coroborating the fact that Greer did, in fact, shoot Kennedy.

Overhead view of the Presidential limousine, Nov. 22, 1963

We know from frame 312 of the Zapruder film that just after President Kennedy had been hit in the throat he turned at the last second to his left almost facing Jackie. which exposed his right temple to the front of the car. Statements made by seven different Parkland Hospital doctors including Dr. Robert N. McClelland, Dr. Paul Peters and Dr. Charles A. Crenshaw indicate that the original appearance of the wound to Kennedy’s head was a large gaping entry wound to his right temple (left as you face him) and a much larger exit wound in the right rear of his head. A right side head wound is indicated in the statements of Doctors Malcom Perry, Charles Baxter, Robert N. McClelland, William Kemp Clark and M.T. Jenkins, found at this link: http://www.jfklancer.com/3Patients.html

In this overhead view of the limousine and its occupants, the trajectory of a bullet that would cause this kind of wound has been traced backwards to the point of origin, which is the right shoulder of William Greer, the limousine driver. It should also be noted that Dr. McClelland also made testimony to the Warren Commission that the head wound could have been caused by "a handgun fired at close range." Ref: Conspiracy of Silence, Dr. Charles A. Crenshaw, High Treason, Robert J. Groden and Harrison E. Livingstone, and Murder from Within, Fred Newcomb and Perry Adams.


JPG scan of personal note from Charles Crenshaw dated 1-26-94

I wrote to Dr. Charles A. Crenshaw in 1994 to get his exact description of how President Kennedy's wounds appeared to him at Parkland Hospital in Dallas. This reply matches the description in the caption of the car diagram above.

Letter from David Naro to Dr. Cyril Wecht

In Dallas the wound at the back of Kennedy’s head was an exit wound. The direction of the bullet reversed when he was at Bethesda Naval Hospital getting the "official autopsy."



Cover of the Globe, issue of March 17, 1992

On January 29, 1992, I succeeded in getting a letter to the editor published in the San Luis Obispo Telegram-Tribune with the headline "Zapruder Film Shows the Ugly truth about Dallas". the same letter was published in our local weekly paper, "The New Times," under the headline, "The Limo Diver Did It." I wrote these letters to the editor based upon my initial viewing of the research video, "Dallas Revisited" done for some local researchers by South Bay Video Productions, right here in San Luis Obispo, CA., where I live.

Shortly after these letters were published, a writer for the Globe, Paul Bannister, contacted me and interviewed me. I showed him my copy of "Dallas Revisited" and some stills I made of frames 312 and 313 of the Zapruder film from a high quality broadcast video. Paul combined my information with work by fellow reporter Bob Boyd who accessed some Dallas Police Dept. files and the article was written. Before publication, The Globe called me from Florida to make sure William Greer was dead. I checked with my local sources and was able to assure the Globe publishers that Greer had died of stomach cancer. After the Globe appeared on every newstand in America, I got phone calls from all over the country from people that agreed with me! The most important call came from Maine from one Tyler Newcomb, a musician, who gave me the phone number of his father, Fred Newcomb, who with fellow researcher Perry Adams of Santa Barbara, wrote the still unpublished book "Murder From Within," which has a 1975 Copyright.

I interviewed Fred for over 3 hours on March 12, 1992 and taped the interview. This was simultaneous with the March 17, 1992 Globe article. Fred commented to me that publishers would not publish the book "because they are scared." I saw the actual self-published edition and it bristles with documentation. Fred had such a compelling book because he went to Dallas in 1968 when witness memories were still fresh. I will publish on this web page a detailed narrative of much little-known information that will make the case for Greer shooting JFK in a way that as not been previously accomplished. I want to mention here that this is the second time I have had this Globe cover scanned. You see, the first time I had it done, the feds hacked my web tv scrapbook and removed this and a scan of a OP-ED piece that I had published 4-18-92 in the same Telegram-Tribune with the headline "Many People Believe JFK’s Killer Was In The Car."

Headline from my Op-Ed piece that appeared in the Telegram-Tribune 4-18-92. My article filled the entire page.\

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12:31:07 - William Greer - The limousine driver, brakes the car, turns and sees he still has a live passenger, and then takes the already drawn .45 Cal. Colt pistol in his left hand and rests it on his right shoulder firing the single shot that causes Kennedy’s fatal head wound. At least six people see him as noted above and five more people smell gunsmoke in the car. Fred Newcomb maintains that the gun was etched with bleach into a highlight and aligned with the top of the head of the passenger Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman, to make you "think" that this was just a highlight on Kellerman’s head. This is the source of many researcher arguements. Existing photos of Kellerman show him to not have a flat head nor a butch haircut. If we are to believe that is his head.....then it is FLAT AS A BOARD!

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contines at http://educate-yourself.org/cn/drivergreershotjfk.shtml

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and then, of course, being the nit-picker that i am ..i had to do a search on william greer...seems this info has been out there for awhile..but i had never come across it before..thanks M


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Greer

William Robert Greer (September 22, 1909 - February 23, 1985) was an agent of the U.S. Secret Service, best known for having driven President John F. Kennedy's automobile in the motorcade through Dealey Plaza in Dallas on November 22, 1963, when the president was assassinated.

[edit] History
Greer was born on a farm in Stewardstown, County Tyrone, Ireland, and emigrated to the United States in 1929.[1] After working for over a decade as a chauffeur and servant to several wealthy families in the Boston area, including the Lodge family, Greer enlisted in the U.S. Navy in World War II, and then joined the U.S. Secret Service on October 1, 1945.

Greer took a role close to Kennedy, and can be seen in several pictures with the Kennedy family. He chauffeured the president on many occasions, including the day of the assassination. Like all agents involved, he has been the target of much speculation and criticism for his actions on that day. He testified before the Warren Commission regarding the incident.

Greer retired on disability from the Secret Service in 1966 due to a stomach ulcer that grew worse following the Kennedy assassination[2]. In 1973 he relocated to Waynesville, North Carolina, where he eventually died of cancer. Greer's son Richard told author Vince Palamara in 1991 that his father "had absolutely no survivor's guilt."[3]


[edit] Analysis and criticism
Some commentators have criticized Greer's actions during the assassination, noting that he did not accelerate the vehicle to get the president out of danger as soon as he could have. In the confusion after the first shot was fired, the limousine's brake lights can be seen coming on briefly, slowing the car to almost a walking pace. The vehicle accelerated several seconds later, but by then the fatal shot had been fired. (Since that time, Secret Service agents have been trained to accelerate rapidly out of the area if they even think they hear gunfire.)

Greer did not discuss slowing the car in his statement to the FBI on the night of the assassination, nor did he mention this aspect to the Warren Commission during the official investigation. His testimony seems to deny that he turned to look directly at Kennedy during the shooting, although the Zapruder film shows him doing this. Secret Service procedures in place at the time did not allow Greer to take action without orders from senior agent Roy Kellerman, who sat to Greer's right. Kellerman has stated that he shouted, "Let's get out of line, we've been hit," but that Greer apparently turned to look at Kennedy, initiating a fatal delay, before accelerating the car out of the danger zone.[4] As Roy Kellerman told author William Manchester, "Greer then looked in the back of the car. Maybe he didn't believe me."[5]

Greer later delivered a heartfelt apology to Jacqueline Kennedy.[6] Privately, Mrs. Kennedy was bitterly critical of the agents' performance, Greer's in particular, comparing his efforts to those of "Maud Shaw" (the Kennedy children's nanny).[7] No agents were reprimanded or disciplined for their actions during the shooting.

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http://www.jfklancer.com/greer.html

Ok this shows the "gun" as being the top of the agents head (sun on hair) sitting in the passenger seat.

However I still think that the shot was fired from within the car. Watch JFK's head as he is shot. It goes back as though he has been shot from the front and the blood splatter also looks like a frontal shot.

The debate continues, but it is his speech that I am most impressed with.

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further searching just wow's me ....the speech is listed as the one that got him killed

the JFK library has the text..i have copied it here


http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03NewspaperPublishers04271961.htm
The President and the Press: Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association
President John F. Kennedy
Waldorf-Astoria Hotel
New York City, April 27, 1961

Listen to this speech

Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen:

I appreciate very much your generous invitation to be here tonight.

You bear heavy responsibilities these days and an article I read some time ago reminded me of how particularly heavily the burdens of present day events bear upon your profession.

You may remember that in 1851 the New York Herald Tribune under the sponsorship and publishing of Horace Greeley, employed as its London correspondent an obscure journalist by the name of Karl Marx.

We are told that foreign correspondent Marx, stone broke, and with a family ill and undernourished, constantly appealed to Greeley and managing editor Charles Dana for an increase in his munificent salary of $5 per installment, a salary which he and Engels ungratefully labeled as the "lousiest petty bourgeois cheating."

But when all his financial appeals were refused, Marx looked around for other means of livelihood and fame, eventually terminating his relationship with the Tribune and devoting his talents full time to the cause that would bequeath the world the seeds of Leninism, Stalinism, revolution and the cold war.

If only this capitalistic New York newspaper had treated him more kindly; if only Marx had remained a foreign correspondent, history might have been different. And I hope all publishers will bear this lesson in mind the next time they receive a poverty-stricken appeal for a small increase in the expense account from an obscure newspaper man.

I have selected as the title of my remarks tonight "The President and the Press." Some may suggest that this would be more naturally worded "The President Versus the Press." But those are not my sentiments tonight.

It is true, however, that when a well-known diplomat from another country demanded recently that our State Department repudiate certain newspaper attacks on his colleague it was unnecessary for us to reply that this Administration was not responsible for the press, for the press had already made it clear that it was not responsible for this Administration.

Nevertheless, my purpose here tonight is not to deliver the usual assault on the so-called one party press. On the contrary, in recent months I have rarely heard any complaints about political bias in the press except from a few Republicans. Nor is it my purpose tonight to discuss or defend the televising of Presidential press conferences. I think it is highly beneficial to have some 20,000,000 Americans regularly sit in on these conferences to observe, if I may say so, the incisive, the intelligent and the courteous qualities displayed by your Washington correspondents.

Nor, finally, are these remarks intended to examine the proper degree of privacy which the press should allow to any President and his family.

If in the last few months your White House reporters and photographers have been attending church services with regularity, that has surely done them no harm.

On the other hand, I realize that your staff and wire service photographers may be complaining that they do not enjoy the same green privileges at the local golf courses that they once did.

It is true that my predecessor did not object as I do to pictures of one's golfing skill in action. But neither on the other hand did he ever bean a Secret Service man.

My topic tonight is a more sober one of concern to publishers as well as editors.

I want to talk about our common responsibilities in the face of a common danger. The events of recent weeks may have helped to illuminate that challenge for some; but the dimensions of its threat have loomed large on the horizon for many years. Whatever our hopes may be for the future--for reducing this threat or living with it--there is no escaping either the gravity or the totality of its challenge to our survival and to our security--a challenge that confronts us in unaccustomed ways in every sphere of human activity.

This deadly challenge imposes upon our society two requirements of direct concern both to the press and to the President--two requirements that may seem almost contradictory in tone, but which must be reconciled and fulfilled if we are to meet this national peril. I refer, first, to the need for a far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy.

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The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.

But I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security.

Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired.

If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent.

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

Nevertheless, every democracy recognizes the necessary restraints of national security--and the question remains whether those restraints need to be more strictly observed if we are to oppose this kind of attack as well as outright invasion.

For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least in one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money.

The newspapers which printed these stories were loyal, patriotic, responsible and well-meaning. Had we been engaged in open warfare, they undoubtedly would not have published such items. But in the absence of open warfare, they recognized only the tests of journalism and not the tests of national security. And my question tonight is whether additional tests should not now be adopted.

The question is for you alone to answer. No public official should answer it for you. No governmental plan should impose its restraints against your will. But I would be failing in my duty to the nation, in considering all of the responsibilities that we now bear and all of the means at hand to meet those responsibilities, if I did not commend this problem to your attention, and urge its thoughtful consideration.

On many earlier occasions, I have said--and your newspapers have constantly said--that these are times that appeal to every citizen's sense of sacrifice and self-discipline. They call out to every citizen to weigh his rights and comforts against his obligations to the common good. I cannot now believe that those citizens who serve in the newspaper business consider themselves exempt from that appeal.

I have no intention of establishing a new Office of War Information to govern the flow of news. I am not suggesting any new forms of censorship or any new types of security classifications. I have no easy answer to the dilemma that I have posed, and would not seek to impose it if I had one. But I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to reexamine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self-restraint which that danger imposes upon us all.

Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: "Is it news?" All I suggest is that you add the question: "Is it in the interest of the national security?" And I hope that every group in America--unions and businessmen and public officials at every level-- will ask the same question of their endeavors, and subject their actions to the same exacting tests.

And should the press of America consider and recommend the voluntary assumption of specific new steps or machinery, I can assure you that we will cooperate whole-heartedly with those recommendations.

Perhaps there will be no recommendations. Perhaps there is no answer to the dilemma faced by a free and open society in a cold and secret war. In times of peace, any discussion of this subject, and any action that results, are both painful and without precedent. But this is a time of peace and peril which knows no precedent in history.
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It is the unprecedented nature of this challenge that also gives rise to your second obligation--an obligation which I share. And that is our obligation to inform and alert the American people--to make certain that they possess all the facts that they need, and understand them as well--the perils, the prospects, the purposes of our program and the choices that we face.

No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.

I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers--I welcome it. This Administration intends to be candid about its errors; for as a wise man once said: "An error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it." We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors; and we expect you to point them out when we miss them.

Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed--and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment-- the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution- -not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply "give the public what it wants"--but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.

This means greater coverage and analysis of international news--for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security--and we intend to do it.

III

It was early in the Seventeenth Century that Francis Bacon remarked on three recent inventions already transforming the world: the compass, gunpowder and the printing press. Now the links between the nations first forged by the compass have made us all citizens of the world, the hopes and threats of one becoming the hopes and threats of us all. In that one world's efforts to live together, the evolution of gunpowder to its ultimate limit has warned mankind of the terrible consequences of failure.

And so it is to the printing press--to the recorder of man's deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news--that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent.



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Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 Addresses, essays, lectures,Presidents in the press--United States,"The President And The Press": President John F. Kennedy's address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City on April 27, 1961.,

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and in trying to find out if he wrote it or someone else did i found this...

http://www.writerswrite.com/wblog.php?wblog=10230401

Who Wrote JFK's Greatest Speech?

An entire industry has seemingly sprung up to debunk all of our most cherished myths about our nation's leaders. Tell-all book after tell-all book informs us of our past presidents' foibles, from drug use to philandering. But finally, the record has been set straight about one of the great speeches in American history: President Kennedy wrote every word of his famous "Ask Not" speech, according to a new book by Thurston Carter entitled, The Inauguration of John F. Kennedy and the Speech That Changed America (Henry Holt). The San Francisco Chronicle provides some fascinating details of the speech in which Kennedy famously said about the work of building America into the great country he believed it could be, "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country." While some historians said that Kennedy's aide wrote the speech, luckily for historians Kennedy's secretary used to dig all his old drafts out of the trash (which really annoyed him). Kennedy wrote numerous drafts of the speech; the proof is in his own handwriting. At least one myth -- that our presidents only use professional speechwriters -- has been laid to rest.
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Great research Sky.

This speech alone should prove that you and I and every awakened individual are on the right track. Just wish more people would wake up.
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flower

Just wish more people would wake up.

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i sincerely believe that waking up is a choice we have made..and it isn't to be taken lightly
nor is it in our abilities to make the choice for anyone else..no matter how much we want to

maybe our being who we are and speaking about our choice will help someone make their choice
but that's the very best WE can do.. it is up to every single being to make their own choice

and i have come to that conclusion after trying to convince folks to see certain things...
after talking till i'm blue about certain things
after being thought of as a real nutjob...which really never bothered me except in thinking that
that particular label would stop someone from listening and knowing..sigh
but
i have learnt that the only job we really have is to ourselves in making whatever choice we make
the rest is nothing but discussion :can't understa
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You are right again. We are finding out all of these things, especially things proven with hard evidence, and I get feeling guilty that I am not sharing the info with everyone. Yet every time I try the response is very limited. It is hard to go against free will.

I guess the thing is for us to try and put the pieces together the best we can and be a resource when asked. Being human it is hard to have patience and wait sometimes. One would pull their hair out if we didn't have this forum to discuss things. We learn so much more as a group than as an individual. Hey that's one of life's lessons right there isn't it.


You know what's really funny is that people don't want to even discuss 9-11 or JFK conspiriacies. How in the world would we ever talk to them about Gregg Braden, RA material, etc. LOL
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Most people DONT WANT TO KNOW

as long as they have their big tv, big cars, monday night football etc joe 6 pack &his wife will not care about anything 'til its TOO LATE, then they will cry "Why did nobody warn us" or "why did nobody stop this happening"


I'm just getting tired of trying to reach cattle (yes I know thats cruel but true) but will continue as always
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It is appropriate to call people cattle. I raise a few real cattle and as I was feeding them the other day I had the thought they have no idea what their fate is. As long as they have plenty of feed in front of them and water to drink, are in a comfortable living area they have no complaints and lay around chewing their cuds all day. Remind you of other "cattle"?

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Micjer this is the most convincing video I ever saw and I saw that today for the first time, even though I always knew it was several shooters.

What a wonderful job you have done here. Thank you.
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winston smith wrote:
Most people DONT WANT TO KNOW

as long as they have their big tv, big cars, monday night football etc joe 6 pack &his wife will not care about anything 'til its TOO LATE, then they will cry "Why did nobody warn us" or "why did nobody stop this happening"


I'm just getting tired of trying to reach cattle (yes I know thats cruel but true) but will continue as always

Great post winston.
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micjer wrote:
You are right again. We are finding out all of these things, especially things proven with hard evidence, and I get feeling guilty that I am not sharing the info with everyone. Yet every time I try the response is very limited. It is hard to go against free will.

I guess the thing is for us to try and put the pieces together the best we can and be a resource when asked. Being human it is hard to have patience and wait sometimes. One would pull their hair out if we didn't have this forum to discuss things. We learn so much more as a group than as an individual. Hey that's one of life's lessons right there isn't it.


You know what's really funny is that people don't want to even discuss 9-11 or JFK conspiriacies. How in the world would we ever talk to them about Gregg Braden, RA material, etc. LOL

Micjer, there is scripture that says, "before the end all things will be known".
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Gabriel wrote:
Micjer this is the most convincing video I ever saw and I saw that today for the first time, even though I always knew it was several shooters.

What a wonderful job you have done here. Thank you.
the other thing about this incident is the car slows after the first shot and does not speed up till after the fatal shot, not right, it tells you right there that the fish smells rotten
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Yes indeed NB.
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Hey Micjer,

In the Cassie material they also say how important networking for information is, and they imply that by networking the answers people need will come through the Matrix to the network because the energy of seeking answers is increased in numbers. There is a multiplying effect in the power that flows.

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Not only the Cassie material but also it is in the Handbook of the New Paradigm and also in the Q'uo material channelled by Carla. check this thread out if you haven't read it..


https://theforceiswithinyou.forumotion.com/ra-wanderers-starseeds-f18/our-group-on-this-forum-is-a-lighthouse-getting-brighter-and-stronger-t953.htm#9396
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Right on Micjer, and it does seem that we are becoming better all the time at what we are doing here, like the conversations, and not long after that the answers from someone else. This is a fun way to pass time...LOL
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I have been studying this. Watch the guy sitting in the middle seats just in front of the president. He puts something that is in a bag on his chest. Just before the fatal shot he looks at the president then looks away. Bam president is shot from close range. He turns his head as JFK is shot. No wonder Jackie wanted to get out of the vehicle.

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That was Governor of Texas I have read some where that the words he used in the vehicle when kennedy got shot and then he was shot himself, you see that in the clip , Were " my god they are going to kill us all " so it seems he knew what was going to happen that day.

Read the link directly below this Many things of glaring suspicion occurred after the body was loaded on the plane . The original casket it was put into is not the casket that comes out with the body . The head is wrapped in a bloody sheet and his brain was removed . They removed the brain to take any evidence of the bullet still being there that would disprove the lone gunman theory . There is also a bullet found by a curb that just missed a guy running underneath the underpass it was found . It damaged the curb and was found but shortly after they explained it as not what they thought it was and the curb was replaced
http://www.socyberty.com/History/Assassination-of-John-F-Kennedy.255049



Connolly Admitted Supporting
JFK Coverup
Is Deception The Best Way To Serve One's Country?

By Doug Thompson
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The handwritten note lay in the bottom drawer of my old rolltop desk, one I bought for $50 in a junk store in Richmond, VA, 39 years ago.

"Dear Doug & Amy," it read. "Thanks for dinner and for listening." The signature was a bold "John" and the letterhead on the note simply said "John B. Connolly" and was dated July 14, 1982.

I met John Connolly on a TWA flight from Kansas City to Albuquerque earlier that year. The former governor of Texas, the man who took one of the bullets from the assassination that killed President John F. Kenney, was headed to Santa Fe to buy a house.

The meeting wasn't an accident. The flight originated in Washington and I sat in the front row of the coach cabin. During a stop in Kansas City, I saw Connolly get on the plane and settle into a first class seat so I walked off the plane and upgraded to a first class seat right ahead of the governor. I not only wanted to meet the man who was with Kennedy on that day in Dallas in 1963 but, as the communications director for the re-election campaign of Congressman Manuel Lujan of New Mexico, I thought he might be willing to help out on what was a tough campaign.

When the plane was in the air, I introduced myself and said I was working on Lujan's campaign. Connolly's face lit up and he invited me to move to the empty seat next to him.

"How is Manuel? Is there anything I can do to help?"

By the time we landed in Albuquerque, Connolly had agreed to do a fundraiser for Lujan. A month later, he flew back into New Mexico where Amy and I picked him up for the fundraiser. Afterwards, we took him to dinner.

Connolly was both gracious and charming and told us many stories about Texas politics. As the evening wore on and the multiple bourbon and branch waters took their effect, he started talking about November 22, 1963, in Dallas.

"You know I was one of the ones who advised Kennedy to stay away from Texas," Connolly said. "Lyndon (Johnson) was being a real asshole about the whole thing and insisted."

Connolly's mood darkened as he talked about Dallas. When the bullet hit him, he said he felt like he had been kicked in the ribs and couldn't breathe. He spoke kindly of Jackie Kennedy and said he admired both her bravery and composure.

I had to ask. Did he think Lee Harvey Oswald fired the gun that killed Kennedy?

"Absolutely not," Connolly said. "I do not, for one second, believe the conclusions of the Warren Commission."

So why not speak out?

"Because I love this country and we needed closure at the time. I will never speak out publicly about what I believe."

We took him back to catch a late flight to Texas. He shook my hand, kissed Amy on the cheek and walked up the ramp to the plane.

We saw Connolly and his wife a couple of more times when they came to New Mexico but he sold his house a few years later as part of a bankruptcy settlement. He died in 1993 and, I believe, never spoke publicly about how he doubted the findings of the Warren Commission.

Connnolly's note serves as yet another reminder that in our Democratic Republican, or what's left of it, few things are seldom as they seem. Like him, I never accepted the findings of the Warren Commission. Too many illogical conclusions.

John Kennedy's death, and the doubts that surround it to this day, marked the beginning of the end of America's idealism. The cynicism grew with the lies of Vietnam and the senseless deaths of too many thousands of young Americans in a war that never should have been fault. Doubts about the integrity of those we elect as our leaders festers today as this country finds itself embroiled in another senseless war based on too many lies.

John Connolly felt he served his country best by concealing his doubts about the Warren Commission's whitewash but his silence may have contributed to the growing perception that our elected leaders can rewrite history to fit their political agendas.

Had Connolly spoken out, as a high-ranking political figure with doubts about the "official" version of what happened, it might have sent a signal that Americans deserve the truth from their government, even when that truth hurts.

©️ Copyright 2006 by Capitol Hill Blue

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As you can see power corrupts. Johnson surely knew as well and who would turn down the chance to be President
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GHW Bush`s link to the JKF Assassination

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm
http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thenixonbushconnectiontothekennedyassassination.htm
http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=JFK%27s+assassination+and+the+Bush+Family&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/dead_kennedys/161963.html


This is merely a small sample of many, many more sites where these came from. Some may be over the top (or not), but most of them are as historically/factually substantive as the 9/11 “inside job” scenario -- so validated by scientific evidence, on the spot observations, and pictures of IMPLODING, not exploding, towers!

It is limitlessly suspicious that Bush Sr. and Jr. have their hands all over the two most consectively treasonous events which have defined American history as much as the Civil War.

The trail to the truth of JFK’s assassination may be cold, but it would be a virtual act of God if it helped to confirm the engineering of 9/11 by George W. Bush, and his fascist elite masters -- and visa versa for JFK's assassination. Could 9/11 ironically be the event that also leads to the truth of JFK's assasination! What a twofer that would be?

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That doctor Peters is lying in the video. He says that the president's head was blown off in the back. You can see in the picture I posted in the car that it is the frontal part that is blown off. You can see the back of his head when he slouches down onto Jackie.
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