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PostSubject: Re: egypt, middle east are imploding   egypt, middle east are imploding - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Feb 01, 2011 4:33 pm

wow
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where it all begins, eh?
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looks like the yuppie or elite version of egypt if ya ask me .....
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affraid


wonder if there's a commercial for where it all ends

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PostSubject: Re: egypt, middle east are imploding   egypt, middle east are imploding - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Feb 02, 2011 7:49 am

something appears to have gone wrong.

The footage i am watching right now is showing the protesters fighting amongst themselves.
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may the goddess have mercy on us all .....
the images are horrifying ...
the feeling i have is utter sadness ...
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PostSubject: Re: egypt, middle east are imploding   egypt, middle east are imploding - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Feb 02, 2011 9:35 am

It must be the last bite, of a dog in a corner.

Yesterday i got the next video in, which i support.
As in a spiritual way, by protest.


Thank God for egypte, as the have a lot of Muslims.
Who believe in martyrs, by defence.

I hope the will stand, as i believe.
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this was not shown on msm (as far as i am aware), even tho is cnn source, because it is TRUTH

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ya know it's been peacefull until the pro mubarak group came on the scene..sure makes ya wonder who they really are
looks like the dark energy didn't like peaceful demo's
praying for it to stay peaceful
we can take control in peace..
.but how do you hold it when the other side will start fights

scratch



"We were set upon by pro-Mubarak supporters punching us in the head." Cooper said that he and the crew tried to escape, but that the crowd only grew: "the crowd kept growing, kept throwing punches, kicks...suddenly a young man would look at you and punch you in the face."http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/02/anderson-cooper-attacked-punched-egypt_n_817352.html
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i would bet, if i was a betting person, that the violence originates
from zionist sympathizers and not the "regular" egyptian people
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PostSubject: Re: egypt, middle east are imploding   egypt, middle east are imploding - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Feb 02, 2011 11:23 am

found on icke's homepage:

'The office of israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu offered their counterpart in the Egyptian government, Omar Suleiman, also head of Egyptian intelligence, to send death squad units, the groups of militant zionist murderers who wear Arab civilian clothes also known as “mistaaravim”, to infiltrate the protesters in Egypt in order to assassinate the leaders of the opposition and the revolutionary movement who take part in the protests against the dictatorial regime of Hosni Mubarak and his thugs.'

http://www.kawther.info/wpr/2011/02/01/israeli-death-squads-to-infiltrate-egyptian-protests
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and here is icke with AJ (not OUR aj)

David Icke Talks About Egypt And The Agenda For The Middle East On The Alex Jones Show

Wednesday, 02 February 2011 15:01
The interview starts at around 3.47

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/44302-david-icke-talks-about-egypt-and-the-agenda-for-the-middle-east-on-the-alex-jones-show
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and this:

'The International Network for Rights and Development said that three Israeli planes landed at Cairo's Mina International Airport on Saturday, carrying equipment for use in dispersing and suppressing large crowds, a Press TV correspondent reported.

According to the report, Egyptian security forces received the cargo on three Israeli planes, which were allegedly carrying a large supply of internationally proscribed gas to disperse crowds. Egyptians have taken to the streets across the country for eight days running, demanding that Mubarak step down.'

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/163052.html
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WineHippie wrote:
and this:

'The International Network for Rights and Development said that three Israeli planes landed at Cairo's Mina International Airport on Saturday, carrying equipment for use in dispersing and suppressing large crowds, a Press TV correspondent reported.

According to the report, Egyptian security forces received the cargo on three Israeli planes, which were allegedly carrying a large supply of internationally proscribed gas to disperse crowds. Egyptians have taken to the streets across the country for eight days running, demanding that Mubarak step down.'

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/163052.html

I know I am very bad for saying this but from what I have heard about Mubarak, give us all a break and please some sniper or someone just shoot the bastard; he is a vicious dictator and torturer, just take him out someone.

Now if only millions could take to the streets like this in every country we would have our change, they cant gas billions.
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PostSubject: Re: egypt, middle east are imploding   egypt, middle east are imploding - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Feb 02, 2011 9:52 pm

One little shit of a man like this ruling with brutal force a people he is supposed to support.

Nah get rid of him and maybe ship his family out somewhere, we don't want a darn repeat here, enough of the rat infested prisons where they throw people and torture them, enough is enough.

Now at a time where we have to get rid of them, maybe put them on a rocket and send them somewhere, those people have suffered enough.
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PostSubject: Re: egypt, middle east are imploding   egypt, middle east are imploding - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 05, 2011 10:03 pm

Icke's headlines are interesting re Egypt, middle east, WWIII.





http://www.davidicke.com/headlines











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Wow with all the coverage I've watched and all the people I've talked to, this is the first anti-Isarel sentiments I've heard. I know Israel is nervous about a new ruler but the demonstrators I've listened to acknowledge that they have to have a working relationship with their neighbor.
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Have to ask my angels for more help for the people L2.
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It never hurts Bigs. rainbow heart
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mubarak reported to be stepping down tonight ....
we'll see ..... due to make speech soon
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WineHippie wrote:
mubarak reported to be stepping down tonight ....
we'll see ..... due to make speech soon

Good, let's hope there is not a carbon copy of him that takes his place.
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Well it looks like he really isn't stepping down. Figures. poop
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well looks like he did - after all
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45 minutes ago ....
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Real cause for celebration, let's hope the next thing we hear is the people of Egypt get somebody they all want not some carbon copy of the dictator they finally got rid of.
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most probable...and the current reality...

Analysis: Military coup was behind Mubarak's exit

Feb 11, 6:13 PM (ET)

By HAMZA HENDAWI

CAIRO (AP) - It was the people who forced President Hosni Mubarak from power, but it is the generals who are in charge now. Egypt's 18-day uprising produced a military coup that crept into being over many days - its seeds planted early in the crisis by Mubarak himself.

The telltale signs of a coup in the making began to surface soon after Mubarak ordered the army out on the streets to restore order after days of deadly clashes between protesters and security forces in Cairo and much of the rest of the Arab nation.

"This is in fact the military taking over power," said political analyst Diaa Rashwan after Mubarak stepped down and left the reins of power to the armed forces. "It is direct involvement by the military in authority and to make Mubarak look like he has given up power."

Army troops backed by tanks and armored fighting vehicles were given a hero's welcome by the protesters angry over brutal treatment by the police. The goodwill was reciprocated when the military vowed not to use force against protesters, a move that set them apart from the much-hated police who operated with near impunity under Mubarak.

The generals adopted a go-slow approach, offering Egyptians carefully weighed hints that it was calling the shots. They issued statements describing the protesters' demands as "legitimate" and made halfhearted calls on the demonstrators to go home and allow normal life to resume.

Rather than quit the protests, the demonstrators turned out in ever greater numbers. Mubarak offered one concession after another, but they all fell short of the protesters' demands that he immediately leave.

The military was clearly torn between its loyalty to the regime and the millions of protesters. Mubarak is one of their own, a former air force commander and a hero of the 1973 Arab-Israeli war.

But as the president continued to defy the growing crowds and cling to power, the Egyptian army moved more definitively toward seizing control for the first time in some 60 years.

Thursday brought the surprise announcement that the armed forces' highest executive body, the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, was in "permanent session" - meaning that it was on a war footing.

State TV showed Defense Minister Hussein Tantawi presiding over a table seating some two dozen stern faced generals in combat fatigues - but no sign of commander in chief Mubarak. His newly appointed vice president, former army general and intelligence chief Omar Suleiman, was not there either - indicating a rift between the civilian and military leadership.

A statement, tellingly referred to as "communique number 1" - phrasing that in the Arab world suggests a coup - made no mention of Mubarak or Suleiman.

The council, it said, met to "discuss what measures and arrangements could be taken to safeguard the homeland and its achievements and the aspirations of the great Egyptian people."

Translation: The generals are in charge, not Mubarak, not Suleiman nor the Cabinet.

The communique set the stage for what the crowds of demonstrators expected would be Mubarak's resignation Thursday night. Instead, Mubarak announced he would stay in office and hand over power to Suleiman, who told protesters to go home and stop watching foreign news reports.

The protesters were furious - and so were the generals.

"Both of last night's addresses by Mubarak and Suleiman were in defiance of the armed forces," Maj. Gen. Safwat el-Zayat, a former senior official of Egypt's General Intelligence, told al-Ahram Online, the Internet edition of Egypt's leading daily, on Friday.

Protest leaders pleaded for the military to take over after Mubarak's speech, saying the country would explode until the army intervened.

If Mubarak had stepped down, handing Suleiman his presidential powers in line with the constitution would have kept his regime largely intact after he had gone, something that would have left the protesters unhappy.

In contrast, a military coup would provide a clean break with a regime they hated for so long, opening up a wide range of possibilities - suspending the constitution that many protesters saw as tailored to keep Mubarak in office and dissolving a parliament formed by an election marred by widespread fraud. A coup seemed to be the best way forward.

The first official word the protesters received from the generals on Friday, however, was discouraging.

A second military communique contained what appeared to be a reluctant endorsement of Mubarak's blueprint for a way out of the crisis, though it also projected the military as the ultimate guarantor of the country's highest interests. El-Zayat said the language in the statement was an attempt to avoid an open conflict.

Later Friday, with millions out on the streets demanding that he step down, Mubarak finally did just that. He may have been denied the chance to announce his own departure - say goodbye to the people he had ruled for nearly 30 years. Suleiman announced the decision for him.

Alternatively, he may have not wanted to go on television to say he was stepping down after less than 24 hours after insisting to serve out the remaining seven months of his current term.

It was a humiliating end.

Keeping up appearances, The military later issued a third military statement praising Mubarak as a leader who has done much to his country. It hinted that the military would not be in power for long, saying the armed forces were not a substitute for a legitimate administration. But it gave no clue as to what its plans are.

"The truth is that even the senior military now at the top of the power structure under Mubarak almost certainly have no clear idea of what happens next," Anthony Cordesman of the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, wrote in a commentary on Thursday. "It will be days before anyone know how well the transition will function, who goes and who stays, and how stable the result really is."

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Source:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110211/D9LAS3U00.html

Hendawi is the AP chief of bureau in Cairo.
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