Bill Ryan a fraud?

If Bill Ryan is capable of perpetrating the 'Project Serpo' hoax

http://www.realityuncovered.net/ufology/articles/serpo/index.php

Is Bill's new little Project 'Rulers of the World' another hoax?

Clif High's take on bill Ryan's latest video.

Nice doggie, there Bill...try again...you can learn this trick, we know you can...

In the past there have been a few times where it has made some sense to
post a note on current events. This note is not about what is happening
in the msm/propaganda press (who cares about scripted 'news' anyway),
but rather, because there have been several emails, is in response to the
'whistleblower' labeled 'charles' who has recently been featured on Bill
Ryan's Project Avalon web site. Having taken the time to watch, and
mainly listen as charlies face was absent from the vid, the impression
bubbles up is "eh, so what?". The inconsistencies within charlies'
statements, and his obviously limited grasp of reality (note he is
convinced that the lying scum 33/thirty three 'rulers of the world' who
are his employers would not dare lie to him, their dirty deeds specialist),
do not support his story. The language used throughout the video is yet
more hype, and no delivery. Given the total lack of any relevant
information, it begs the question of 'why' produce and release this wet
noodle of a video?

It would seem that Bill Ryan has heard the criticism as he has released
a video on YouTube in which he attempts to supply a 'back story' as to
why this is, yet-again, his most important work ever, and indeed, why
any of the 'alternative media' should give a shit about charles and his
rather old news concern over GMO foods. Yes, every human should
be seriously concerned about the evils being wrought by the GMO
foods corporations, but, again...way old news.

However, my real bitch with Bill is not the charles video, but rather his
follow-up release on YouTube. In watching this video, a couple of
things jump right out. First is the blink rate that Bill has and its
association to what he is saying at that moment. Blink rates are a key
'discomfort tell' that bring up warning flags to the viewer about the
message being sent. The blinking and other vocal tension tells are so
prevalent through out the video that one could be forgiven if they
momentarily thought that they were watching the infamous Dan Burisch
on any of his videos. But, if it were only that, it would be easy to pass on
and ignore yet another 'historic' and 'ground breaking' and 'mega
important' video from Bill Ryan. But, and you knew it was coming,
there is more.

At the core of the Bill Ryan video is the message that IF we common
people reading alternative media are 'smart enough', and 'diligent
enough' to 'learn the lesson' that the 'rulers of the world' are trying to
teach us, why, we will then prove ourselves worthy of being their
obedient pets. Ok, so Bill does not actually put it in quite those words,
but the basic message of the video is that Bill Ryan, whom we could
hereafter refer to as 'the anointed one' as he was chosen to represent all
of the unruly dogs to the 'rulers of the world', will be our conduit to our
'betters'. Just listen to the language, especially from 47minutes and 33
seconds (hmmmm 33 seconds, curious) onward. The message is quite
clear....."if we are honorable (note the hidden sub texts involved such as
just who shall judge us to be honorable?)", if we 'pick up the ball
quickly enough" (hmmm..doesn't one teach their dogs to fetch with
balls?), ..."if we respond in a way that is regarded as being
appropriate"...(hmmm, again, who shall judge our 'appropriate-
ness'?)....and then, and only then, will 'we will be
respected"....(hmmm...by our "betters?")...."then we will earn
more"...(hmm...just like good pets, eh Bill?).

But, then there is the other side of the relationship, according to Bill
Ryan as he lists the 'thou shalt nots' in the relationship....(47:51) Of
course, like good little pets we are admonished to 'chew it down'
(regardless of the taste).

Bill then closes by stating that he does not know if we 'deserve' to learn
more. Huh? What the FUCK?!

Again, WTF? Deserve to learn more?!?

Well, being an unruly pet to TPTW has always worked out for me....and
there is no reason presented by BR that alters my approach. Fuck'em. In
case the anointed one has missed it, challenge IS at the core of life.
And it just so happens that any rulers of the world WILL BE
CHALLENGED until they all fall. Sic semper tyrannis, eh dude?

So, stay tuned? Will Bill Ryan be granted an 'audience' with the 'rulers
of the world' like a good little pet?

Language uber alles, Bill....and the WHOLE of your video condenses
down to the message from these "rulers" as 'be nice doggies and maybe
we can play fetch later"....if you do not think my conclusions accurate,
then kindly show me where there is language in that video that does not
go to this point.

Ok, so many may think that this criticism of BR is too harsh. And
perhaps with some justification, after all (no offense to free thinkers
here) Bill is British and thus has been raised and indoctrinated to 'tip the
hat', and 'bend the knee' to his 'betters'...aka "the bloodline
people"...(also note how Bill says that in his video's...with internal
acceptance that is a bit chilling)....so the idea that Bill does not know
any other way to react when they push his internal buttons does have
some validity. And it can be granted that he is doing the best he can
with a still intact 'slave mind' overlay on his consciousness.

Harsh. Yes, mea culpa, but we live in a harsh universe, and one needs to
practice discernment of mind. Personally, this is a continuous struggle
for old bald guys such as myself. Probably because it is a core pursuit, it
puzzles me to not see it in other old bald guys. Oh, well, pretty sure i
have gotten it all wrong again and will be told so incessantly.

However, Bill is not known for his gentle treatment of myself or my
work, and in spite of that, my concern for his health, and mental well
being is genuine, and if he feels that any criticism made herein is not
justified, it is likely we will all know about it soon.

In closing, NO Bill, explicitly you are not being called a dog in this
posting. Rather my concern is that your words are damaging at so many
levels that they needed to be addressed. Again, any irritation expressed
here is toward the message, but of a necessity the context of the
message must also be examined in these days of rampant deception and
disinformation.

And being an old raspy dog of universe, it is easy to recognize when
someone is telling me " nice doggie...try again..you can learn this
trick...we know you can"...and which brings instantly to mind an old
motto of mine....

i am a dog who gnaws his bone.
i sit here, in my repose, gnawing alone.
There will come a day, which is not yet,
when I will bite him, by whom i am bit.

My apologies to the original French for the paraphrasing translation.
This is not an anti Bill Ryan rant. My bitch is with the language that he is trying to push out and lay upon the alternative media community. Since i count myself in that group, i choose to respond this way to his words. Get that....it is his language that is rasping on my bones, not him. In point of fact, i have an open invitation to Bill Ryan to come and sail with me in Q'oki-oki and to gnaw on universe together. He is free to video, but if he does, so will i. Should he accept, i would also ask questions, so it would be an exchange, and not an interview. This invitation is still open, and i hope he is not offended by my critique of his language. If i were to use language as he has in this video, i would greatly appreciate someone beating my head with it...a 'hey dude! WTF, eh?'. My point is to encourage Bill (and everyone reading) to examine their own assumptions and views of universe which continuously leak out in their words...in this case, not so much a leak but a flood...(watch that word...AU is not the end of it by any means, but that is for another report), and here we need to end with a very clear statement to Bill Ryan. In spite of how you may receive my words in criticism of yours, i do not mean any disrespect of you, the human. But i do invite you to review your own video and then debate my conclusions about what is actually on view to universe.

Link to the Bill Ryan video on YouTube is HERE


clif

January 10, 2011

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/Nicedoggie.html

Whatever Bill Ryan is use discernment carefully, the doom and gloom prophecies rarely come into fruition so energy spent elsewhere may be a wise investment.

As I pm to Soma, we talk off forum through pm's frequently (my bud Melbounite Soma and myself) I told him when we spoke about Charles that I went on there trying to tell that lot about where it starts spiritual wise, the real rulers of the world and how we return, a bit of a spiritual philosophy lesson that I do not need to give to anyone here, because you people here know it all and dont need to be told anything, and Greybeard also came on and said yes Tuza I have been trying to tell them the same thing.

I told Soma that when I get a real big surge that is a nudge I know is from above to go and type whatever I am given I do, I will not go against that surging nudge ever.

But I also told S that the big worry for everyone was the words "starving, food being withheld, etc, etc. I got on there when I got the surge said what I was given and if that is not enough then they can go ahead and worry about their rulers of the world (I said they weren't and don't) and the starvation (spiritual lesson) nothing more I can do.

I also told S, I did what I was surged about but if they want to make another 3,000 posts and rehash every post they can f.....n go ahead.

How do we know someone we know well hasn't been preprogrammed.

God knows I swear, He/She knows........................BTW Soma going soon to take ma into Melbourne CBD to specialist appointment and then shopping so will not be back on till late this afternoon bud.

Come on,

Chopper was only a thug to other criminals...lol

Huge Australian Supermarket Chain Removes Growth Hormones from Beef on it shelves....




Coles hormone-free beef to improve eating quality for customers


Coles is sourcing hormone growth promotant (HGP) free beef from its Australian cattle producers to achieve our goal of providing customers with the best quality fresh food.
Coles will be the first national food retailer to sell only HGP-free beef.
Coles general manager of meat, Allister Watson, said Coles worked cooperatively with its beef suppliers over the last 18 months to build a dedicated hormone-free supply chain.
“Coles is working with our livestock suppliers to ensure our customers get the best quality fresh food possible,” Mr Watson said.
“Coles is aware of widespread consumer concerns about additives in food and livestock and animal welfare practices.
“A range of scientific studies have also confirmed that hormone growth promotants (HGPs) can adversely affect eating quality.
“The Meat Standards Australia (MSA) grading system shows that meat quality is significantly better without the use of HGPs.”
Mr Watson said a key outcome for Coles was that neither customers nor suppliers would be financially disadvantaged by the move to better quality meat.
“We’ve agreed with our suppliers that Coles will absorb any additional production costs that arise from moving to HGP-free beef and we’ll ensure that Coles on-shelf beef prices are not affected by this move,” he said.
The Chief Executive of Australian Country Choice, David Foote, a major Coles beef supplier based in Queensland, said the move was a positive for customers and a new supply opportunity for cattle producers.
“I applaud Coles for striving to continuously improve the eating quality of Coles beef for its consumers and for working closely with its cattle suppliers to deliver a fair outcome for all parties,” Mr Foote said.
Coles Finest HGP-free beef range is already available in selected Coles stores. Coles Butcher beef will be progressively converted to HGP-free in stores from January 2011.

SOURCE:

http://www.coles.com.au/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=8xqOPi8cG1o%3D&tabid=101


More Relevant News:

http://www.news.com.au/business/hormone-beef-off-the-shelves-at-coles-in-2011/story-e6frfm1i-1225976265244

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2011/01/07/278741_cattle.html

Even the Government Scientists at CSIRO who should be controlled by the 33 are saying... Beef taste, tenderness 'marred' by hormones

http://theland.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/grains-and-cropping/general/beef-taste-tenderness-marred-by-hormones/2035787.aspx

Reunite wrote:

Come on,

Chopper was only a thug to other criminals...lol

I watched the interview last night and was left with the feeling of watching chop chop with a very slight conspiracy bent.

At least chopper can paint

Reunite wrote:

the doom and gloom prophecies rarely come into fruition so energy spent elsewhere may be a wise investment.

They rarely come true.. that is unless you are in haiti, in a Tsunami, black wednesday, Louisina, Queensland floods, Chinese earthquakes, Floods in Brazil, Gulf oil leak.

Not really trying to scare people though - just saying changes are happening and some people are dying as a consequence.

be careful with any info from reality uncovered. They have an agenda, and are intel connected. That is varified.

Sometimes they are right, but they also lie and cheat, all the time.

Bill wasn't the only one involved in serpo. He was only the face. Rick doty played a much larger part.

Rick doty was also involved in the introduction/expansion of the dulce meme, in association with mr bennowitz, hence my use of the term bennowitzed in reference to bill ryan in another thread last week.

Anchor wrote:

Reunite wrote:

the doom and gloom prophecies rarely come into fruition so energy spent elsewhere may be a wise investment.

They rarely come true.. that is unless you are in haiti, in a Tsunami, black wednesday, Louisina, Queensland floods, Chinese earthquakes, Floods in Brazil, Gulf oil leak.

Not really trying to scare people though - just saying changes are happening and some people are dying as a consequence.

ok maybe I should of elaborated. Dates for ET evasions, Planet X etc by whistleblowers in the alternative community.

Natural disasters is another story.

Hey Stal that RU link pretty much sums up what you just said about Rick doty as the main instigated of Project Serpo and Bill Ryan as the media face. Shady crowds everywhere.

yeah i dont trust any of the bastards.

The more you dig, the more shit you find.

Certain key players just keep turning up, over and over again.

And hence is why I asked over there to everyone.............."see if you can go back before the ETs landed here and began their genetics, cross breeding etc, etc, back before they came into existence, way, way back before the big bang, the emergence of the universe, galaxies, whatever, ............now tell me what you come up with.

I got one reply which I will not expand on.

So I went back after another couple hundred posts and said ................you arrive before anything came into existence anywhere, what have you got................?

Then I went on to say the 33 are not the be all and end all of everything and DO NOT have the final say. They might say they are the bosses but their not and they know their not.

I continued like I felt I was nudged to do............................did my bit.


And now if I go over there I bet there will be another bloody 500 posts...............I am not getting more nudges so I dont have to go..................if they want to carry on blabbing so be it.

Sorry about not editing above post, feel a bit weak muscle wise today, but Somamech, would you believe got ma's specialist appointment time wrong, thought it was 1:15, but it was 11.15, had to ring and make another one now, my fault.

What you gonna do. still in the scheme of things with what is going on I am not going to be overly concerned.

Well blind faith from one man's word isn't going to convince me of this 33 group. Another charlatan.

well i didn't want to listen to that interview..but i finally did and then couldn't figure out what bothered me so much
finally
it was the fact that bill was using this baddie to agree with him on all the horrors bill had reported on and by doing that proving that they were real, by golly
and to say that the baddie liked him and
that bill was now validated by the baddies as important..


it was a head scratching ...ARE YOU KIDDING ME....what a total ass


i won't be convincing myself to watch any more

Biggz lol

When it comes to all this sacred blood group, people tend to forget the likes of tibet being the unfound land so to speak. Theres a rich history of ET's depending how you look at it in their history let alone their knowledge of past civilizations.

In a bit of a rush right now but the point I'm trying to make is that there is other society's in the world with knowledge... ;)

sky otter wrote:

well i didn't want to listen to that interview..but i finally did and then couldn't figure out what bothered me so much
finally
it was the fact that bill was using this baddie to agree with him on all the horrors bill had reported on and by doing that proving that they were real, by golly
and to say that the baddie liked him and
that bill was now validated by the baddies as important..


it was a head scratching ...ARE YOU KIDDING ME....what a total ass


i won't be convincing myself to watch any more

How much he emphasised he was meant to be taken out...

Better tell Nogroz his times up

Exactly, no matter what anyone says over there that differs to their point of view they mostly just disregard it, so let the thread go on for months, whatever, its all babble.

Well noddy groz has had the mib turn up before at his place to go through his stuff. I have told him before that he could step on someone's toes, that's all I can do............

Have to say this was my first gut instinct - The general consensus amongst the forums per this interview sum it up to be a gullibility test (Yeah I'm bored at work). Bullshit meters have had some nice flexing on poor disinfo.

I'll stick to open mind skepticism.

Yup Bigg stupid interview I`m so glad i don`t go over there any more . Bill has been getting some flack over this one as he looked as though he wanted to lean over and kiss charles ass during the interview So much so he had to release an ass cover video so his flock don`t fly the coupe. If you can stomach an hour of um`s ah` and other mumbling drivel watch this video

I have decided to watch this unfold with an open mind behind my usual efforts at discernment.

Right now as I peruse the mega-threads on PA2 you can see that a very interesting line of thinking has developed.

I think Charles is not a fraud.

I think Bill Ryan is doing his best to extract maximum value from the engagement - and his British nous is likely to be of benefit. No one knows if this will continue. It could go either way. I don't see how anyone can really come to the conclusion (at this current time) that it has been a waste of time.

Of particular interest is the dynamic of honour and the way in which this underpins the rules of engagement. Obviously this could all be based on egoic reflection subsequently translated into something more than it is, but we have seen some of that elite game play before.

John..

Look I am going to throw my hat in the ring here as well.

I tried to tell them over there that the 33 and all the rest are not the be all and end all and gave them an analogy...............but they continue to go on and on and on.........

but for what its worth I do think this guy is authentic but I dont get where he comes into the bloodline thing if he was brought up in the back streets of the poor side of London.........?

Questions A how is Bill a threat to them ? Why approach Him ? Is it to feed him disinfo ? Do we really care what the so called elite have to say after every thing that has happened ? There are many more but the general consensus is that Bill Has gotten a bit of backlash and is damage control mode to justify his actions . Come on after every thing that has been done to humanity by those arsholes why give them a platform ? is he just trying to boost his membership and You tube ratings ? Knowing what i do and have discovered about Him and Kerry well is a courteous way lets just say I have had more then my fill and will stick with listening to Mel`s interviews