Comet Elenin......

micjer wrote:

Very nice find Hippie.

Of all the prophecies, the Hopi one is the one I rely on the most. All of them have come true in order more or less, with the exception of the Blue Star and the Red Purifier.

Levy does come pretty close in Jan 2012 as does Honda in Feb 2017!

Agree Mic I follow the Hopi prophecies as well, they are something I try to keep up with.

And the comets I am definitely going to keep a close eye on.

Will be watching the links above later when I have time. Thanks hippie my love.

hey you guys

i thought that comet holmes was considered by most to be the blue star..i remember watching it in the sky...
it was blue

i haven't figured the red one yet..but i have a couple of guesses..

here's a good link to the hopi prophecy

http://www.wolflodge.org/bluestar/bluestar.htm
just hit the esc kep to stop the twinkling


cool site
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/

sky otter wrote:

hey you guys

i thought that comet holmes was considered by most to be the blue star..i remember watching it in the sky...
it was blue

i haven't figured the red one yet..but i have a couple of guesses..

here's a good link to the hopi prophecy

http://www.wolflodge.org/bluestar/bluestar.htm
just hit the esc kep to stop the twinkling


cool site
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/

Thanks lamb I am going to check those links out. Cool.

ahhhhhhhhhhh could this be the red purifier??? HD181068 = 9 /ending


quoting:
another force may be at work.
a red giant they have spotted is unexpectedly quiet.
the red giant's silence has confounded
This red giant star should pulsate




Binary stars are well-known, but it seems these trinary systems may also be common

8 April 2011 Last updated at 13:13 ET
Kepler star trio find is mystery to astroseismologists

The graceful dance between three stars seen by the Kepler telescope has drawn the attention of astronomers because it is not accompanied by a song.

Most stars are known to generate great booming sounds in their interiors, and Kepler can spot the resulting change in the light that they emit.

However, astronomers reporting in Science say a red giant they have spotted is unexpectedly quiet.

HD181068A is orbited by two smaller, red dwarf stars that orbit each other.

The study of the sounds within stars is known as astroseismology, and a separate report in Science details the findings of more than 500 stars whose deep rumblings Kepler has measured.

As convection processes within stars move masses of material up from the core, great pressure waves - in essence, sound waves of very low frequency - are created.

As the gases are compressed and rarefied, temperature changes lead to changes in the light that escapes the stars.

The sounds within the stars, and the clues they give into the stars' makeup, can be inferred from these small changes in the "light curves" that telescopes such as Kepler measure.

Triple play

But HD181068 is an unusual case - firstly because it is a "triply eclipsing" system. From Kepler's viewpoint, the two smaller binary stars pass in front of one another as they orbit each other, and they in turn pass in front of the red giant.

Just what is going on in the system can be worked out from measuring the tiny amounts of light that are blocked by each star at each stage of the trio's waltz.

It is not the first triply eclipsing system that Kepler has spotted; that honour goes to KOI 126, also reported in Science, in February.

But the red giant's silence has confounded the new study's lead author Aliz Derekas, of Eotvos University in Hungary.

"This red giant star should pulsate," she told BBC News.

"We now know all red giants show some oscillations - the surface of the star should show some waves that should be in the light curve. We can estimate the period of these oscillations, and this red giant doesn't show that period."

The best guess for the moment is that the gravitational forces at work between the three stars could serve to dampen the oscillations at HD181068's surface.

That is because the two smaller stars orbit each other in 0.9 days, whereas the expected period of oscillations from the red giant's rumblings is almost exactly half that.

It may be that the binary pair stops the oscillations on the red giant by tugging on the star's surface at just the right times.

Mike Montgomery, an astronomer at the University of Texas at Austin, said another force may be at work.

"When you have stars in a binary or triple system, and one of them burns all its hydrogen and becomes a red giant, if it's close enough it can start to dump some of its material onto that other star," he explained to BBC News.

"This is just circumstantial evidence, but maybe its internal structure isn't what it would have been if it were a single star, and that's somehow affecting its ability to pulsate."

Either way, Kepler's prolific rate of discovery means that further examples of systems of this sort may be just around the corner.

Dr Montgomery said: "These things are not as uncommon as you might think. We'll probably discover more of these systems and we'll be able in a couple of years to be sure about this sort of diagnosis."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12990213

There looks like there are a lot of them stars, suns, comets out there and they seem to be heading toward us.

Jenetta posted this on the Mists.

May-09-11 7:01





“At its present position beyond the orbit of Mars, Elenin is a faint telescopic object. At that distance a planet-sized object would be one of the brightest ‘stars’ in the night sky one would think, and if it were Jupiter-sized it would be visually spectacular, a shining beacon that would make everyone take notice! But no, that does not seem to be the case. Large amateur telescopes are straining to even catch a glimpse of Elenin; it is likely a small object, probably a big rock,” writes one blogger.
Big seems to be the appropriate word for we now have the first actual astronomical calculations that puts the coma (the part they can see is 50,000 miles in diameter. Yes a big rock!
“On April 8th at our Russian observatory we carried out planned observations of Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin). An analysis of the results of the observations shows a rapid growth of the coma. Besides the internal compact gas envelope, the forming rarified external coma is also visible in the image. Its diameter exceeds 1 minute of arc, or 80,000 km! It is possible that such a rapid growth of the coma is associated with the apparent superposition over it of the comet’s dust tail, which after opposition, still remains invisible to the earthly observer.”


The coma is what astronomers actually see and is actually much bigger than the core. It’s the green in the above picture that they are saying is 80,000 km or 50,000 miles across. We could estimate that the core might be half the diameter of the coma or approximately 25,000 miles. Big enough—it seems to be already stirring up the Earth under our feet.
There is a lot of speculation going on about what this comet actually is and what it is composed of but at least now we have an idea of its size. The following video is from a man who explains how the size was calculated and he confirms the above astronomers are not out of their minds.




The Professionals Step In
We have news out of Cornell University that sustains the view that Elenin is playing a direct part in causing large earthquakes. Professor Mensur Omerbashich is saying that his “georesonator concept in which tidally induced magnification of Earth masses’ resonance causes seismicity.” This trashes NASA’s assertion that the humongous earthquake we saw in Japan and before that with the ones in Chile and New Zealand were coincidental with alignments between Elenin, the Earth and the Sun.

The earth’s seismicity can arise as a natural response
of our planet to its alignments with other celestial objects.
Professor Mensur Omerbashich
Omerbashich demonstrates empirically that “all strong (~M6+) earthquakes of 2010 occurred during the Earth’s long astronomical alignments within our solar system. He shows that the same holds true for all very strong (~M8+) earthquakes of the decade of 2000s. He asserts that the “comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) has been adding to robustness in terms of very strong seismicity since 2007. Elenin will continue intensifying the Earth’s very strong seismicity until August-October, 2011.”
It seems like every time Elenin lines up with Earth and another planet or the Sun we have an earthquake, the nearer Elenin gets the bigger the earthquakes.
Past Elenin Alignments and Earthquakes:
Future Elenin Alignments:
Now of course we have many earthquakes and if we showed them all, this chart would then lose much of its meaning. The 9.1 earthquake in Japan though will never lose its meaning and it happened on cue with an alignment with Elenin.
So everyone I guess it is not a small pebble after all that is coming our way and I think NASA knows this for how could they calculate its pathway through the inner solar system without knowing its mass or size? But before we blow our gaskets over this I want you to take a look at a most interesting and strange video of a presentation by a most beautiful and intelligent man. It seems that flybys of big objects are not that unusual and that we had a truly big comet almost hit the Sun less than ten years ago. Below we have physicist Nassim Haramein showing a NASA video of something that frightened everyone who was watching yet nothing happened when something should have. When asked why not Haramein said, “I don’t know.”



I trust Nassim, and what he shows goes beyond the pale of scientific understanding. According to him such a large object should have made a mess of the inner solar system but it did not. In the film we actually see the sun protecting itself with a huge and forceful solar flare from what looked like a possible collision with a huge comet.
But now we have another one heading in but this one is already wrecking the earth with 9.0 earthquakes, already resulting in a nuclear catastrophe in Japan. It was only seven days ago when I published:

In this video you will see with mathematical precision that every time this celestial body comes into alignment with the earth and sun we have a huge earthquake. The last three alignments produced the Japanese 9.0 quake, the one in New Zealand and before that the one in Chile. On March 11th Elenin was much further out. When the next alignment happens it will be devastatingly close. The main point to understand is that if Elenin was just a normal comet it would not have the mass to generate a gravity pull that would affect the earth when the Earth swings around into alignment.
The mystery only gets more profound. Cosmic rays crashing into the Earth over the South Pole appear to be coming from particular locations rather than being distributed uniformly across the sky. Similar cosmic ray “hotspots” have been seen in the northern skies too, yet we know of no source close enough to produce this pattern. “We don’t know where they are coming from,” says Stefan Westerhoff of the University of Wisconsin-Madison. It’s a mystery because the hotspots must be produced within about 0.03 light years of Earth. Further out, galactic magnetic fields should deflect the particles so much that the hotspots would be smeared out across the sky. But no such sources are known to exist.
Perhaps our incoming comet is hot in terms of radiation and is doing more than putting out gravity fields that are affecting the Earth’s structure. We have an evolving puzzle going on down here on Earth but it will get clearer as the next few weeks or months pass. So far we have many strange “coincidences” that are going unexplained but as they pile up we will be better able to triangulate events into a comprehensible perception of what is in store for us and what to do, if anything, about it.
People pounced on Nassim Haramein for inferring that the NASA video he was showing in his presentation above was proof that Nibiru had come and gone already. It is dangerous to make assumptions but who would have thought that there was more than one big planet-size object that was coming in on comet trajectories within ten years of each other?
This last one that Haramein shows danced with the sun and must have had some Klingon cloaking device—certainly no one I know was aware of such a close call or that comets could be that big. Now according to NASA we have a tiny rock coming in that somehow is big enough to yank on the gravitational/electric/magnetic/structural under-pinnings of our world. Must be made of Krypton or its bigger than NASA is letting on.
Excuse my attempt to lighten up the discussion. I have people crawling all over the place, including inside my own family, who are uncomfortable even knowing what’s going on with comets on their way into our backyard. This one is going to pass close where the other one seen in Haramein’s presentation miraculously left the inner solar system in peace.
What is going to happen is anyone’s guess but Professor Mensur Omerbashich does not seem to be guessing. Perhaps we should all read his paper and study up on his georesonator concept. He is from Cornell one of the most respected Universities in the world so personally I do give him the courtesy and honor of taking him seriously. It is most difficult presenting these topics to the world for their will be great dissention and controversy until September and then we will really get to experience whatever reality is going to offer itself to us on earth. My bet is that events will continue to build in intensity and life will continually get more and more out of hand on every level and dimension.



I could literally post hundreds of videos and stories of strange happenings in our world. We do not need a crystal ball to see the relentless Earth changes. We have left the landscape of normalcy behind and are entering into a world where cataclysmic chaos is becoming the new norm. Just ask the people in the Mississippi valley this week. The escalating trend of anomalous weather patterns, massive animal die-offs, inexplicable seismic activities, droughts, famine and increasing food prices supports the view that things are changing quickly and something unseen and uncalculated is participating in this. Can’t blame everything on global warming and CO2!
Below you will see two articles, one from the Washington Post and another from The New York Times from 28 years ago, but read them like they were printed yesterday. Astronomy deals practically with eternity so what is 28 years? NASA came right out and admitted they found a massive very cold body outside the solar system. Now they are not saying a thing about this or whether this past massive comet from 2003, or the current one, have anything to do with their discovery almost three decades ago. What could possibly be their motive for keeping a tight lid on this terribly important subject?

Washington Post
Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered
31-Dec-1983
A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby “protostar” that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars, or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through. “All I can tell you is that we don’t know what it is,” Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for California’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview.
The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet, as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 billion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone’s throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto. “If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system,” said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University’s Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team. “If it is that close, I don’t know how the world’s planetary scientists would even begin to classify it.”
The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the super-cold helium that allowed its telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens. The second observation took place six months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time. “This suggests it’s not a comet because a comet would not be as large as the one we’ve observed and a comet would probably have moved,” Houck said. “A planet may have moved if it were as close as 50 billion miles but it could still be a more distant planet and not have moved in six months’ time.
Whatever it is, Houck said, the mystery body is so cold its temperature is no more than 40 degrees above “absolute” zero, which is 459 degrees Fahrenheit below zero. The telescope aboard IRAS is cooled so low and is so sensitive it can “see” objects in the heavens that are only 20 degrees above absolute zero. When IRAS scientists first saw the mystery body and calculated that it could be as close as 50 billion miles, there was some speculation that it might be moving toward Earth. “It’s not incoming mail,” Cal Tech’s Neugebauer said. “I want to douse that idea with as much cold water as I can.”

The New York Times
Clues Get Warm in the Search for Planet X
30-January-1983
John Noble Wilford
Something out there beyond the farthest reaches of the known solar system seems to be tugging at Uranus and Neptune. Some gravitational force keeps perturbing the two giant planets, causing irregularities in their orbits. The force suggests a presence far away and unseen, a large object that may be the long-sought Planet X.
Evidence assembled in recent years has led several groups of astronomers to renew the search for the 10th planet. They are devoting more time to visual observations with the 200-inch telescope at Mount Palomar in California. They are tracking two Pioneer spacecraft, now approaching the orbit of distant Pluto, to see if variations in their trajectories provide clues to the source of the mysterious force. And they are hoping that a satellite-borne telescope launched last week will detect heat “signatures” from the planet, or whatever it is out there.
The Infrared Astronomical Satellite was boosted into a 560-mile-high polar orbit Tuesday night from Vandenberg Air Force Base, CA. It represents an $80-million venture by the United States, Britain and the Netherlands. In the next six or seven months, the telescope is expected to conduct a wide-ranging survey of nearly all the sky, detecting sources not of ordinary light, but of infrared radiation, which is invisible to the human eye and largely absorbed by the atmosphere. Scientists thus hope that the new telescope will chart thousands of infrared-emitting objects that have gone undetected—stars, interstellar clouds, asteroids and, with any luck, the object that pulls at Uranus and Neptune.
The last time a serious search of the skies was made, it led to the discovery in 1930 of Pluto, the ninth planet. But the story begins more than a century before that, after the discovery of Uranus in 1781 by the English astronomer and musician William Herschel. Until then, the planetary system seemed to end with Saturn.
As astronomers observed Uranus, noting irregularities in its orbital path, many speculated that they were witnessing the gravitational pull of an unknown planet. So began the first planetary search based on astronomers’ predictions, which ended in the 1840s with the discovery of Neptune almost simultaneously by English, French and German astronomers.
But Neptune was not massive enough to account entirely for the orbital behavior of Uranus. Indeed, Neptune itself seemed to be affected by a still more remote planet. In the late 19th century, two American astronomers, William H. Pickering and Percival Lowell, predicted the size and approximate location of the trans-Neptunian body, which Lowell called Planet X.
Years later, Pluto was detected by Clyde W. Tombaugh working at Lowell Observatory in Arizona. Several astronomers, however, suspected it might not be the Planet X of prediction. Subsequent observations proved them right. Pluto was too small to change the orbits of Uranus and Neptune; the combined mass of Pluto and its recently discovered satellite, Charon, is only one-fifth that of Earth’s moon.
Recent calculations by the United States Naval Observatory have confirmed the orbital perturbation exhibited by Uranus and Neptune, which Dr. Thomas C. Van Flandern, an astronomer at the observatory, says could be explained by “a single undiscovered planet.” He and a colleague, Dr. Robert Harrington, calculate that the 10th planet should be two to five times more massive than Earth and have a highly elliptical orbit that takes it some 5 billion miles beyond that of Pluto—hardly next door but still within the gravitational influence of the Sun.
Some astronomers have reacted cautiously to the 10th-planet predictions. They remember the long, futile quest for the planet Vulcan inside the orbit of Mercury; Vulcan, it turned out, did not exist. They wonder why such a large object as a 10th planet escaped the exhaustive survey by Mr. Tombaugh, who is sure it is not in the two-thirds of the sky he examined. But according to Dr. Ray T. Reynolds of the Ames Research Center in Mountain View, CA, other astronomers “are so sure of the 10th planet, they think there’s nothing left but to name it.”
At a scientific meeting last summer, 10th-planet partisans tended to prevail. Alternative explanations for the outer-planet perturbations were offered. The something out there, some scientists said, might be an unseen black hole or neutron star passing through the Sun’s vicinity. Defenders of the 10th planet parried the suggestions. Material falling into the gravitational field of a black hole, the remains of a very massive star after its complete gravitational collapse, should give off detectable X-rays, they noted; no X-rays have been detected. A neutron star, a less massive star that has collapsed to a highly dense state, should affect the courses of comets, they said, yet no such changes have been observed.
More credence was given to the hypothesis that a “brown dwarf” star accounts for the mysterious force. This is the informal name astronomers give to celestial bodies that were not massive enough for their thermonuclear furnaces to ignite; perhaps like the huge planet Jupiter, they just missed being self-illuminating stars.
Most stars are paired, so it is not unreasonable to suggest that the Sun has a dim companion. Moreover, a brown dwarf in the neighborhood might not reflect enough light to be seen far away, said Dr. John Anderson of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, CA. Its gravitational forces, however, should produce energy detectable by the Infrared Astronomical Satellite.
Whatever the mysterious force, be it a brown dwarf or a large planet, Dr. Anderson said he was “quite optimistic” that the infrared telescope might find it and that the Pioneer spacecraft could supply an estimate of the object’s mass. Of course, no one can be sure that even this discovery would define the outermost boundary of the solar system.

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What a great thread.

Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/


: During the time it takes you to read this article, something will happen high overhead that until recently many scientists didn't believe in. A magnetic portal will open, linking Earth to the sun 93 million miles away. Tons of high-energy particles may flow through the opening before it closes again, around the time you reach the end of the page.


Russian Warning Issued Over “Controlled” Comet Headed Towards Earth

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/03/01/russian-warning-issued-over-%E2%80%9Ccontrolled%E2%80%9D-comet-headed-towards-earth/

Earth-Issues posting about a chilling report prepared for President Medvedev by Minister Serdyukov of the Russian Defense Ministry on the building of an additional 5,000 underground ‘bomb’ shelters in Moscow warns that even though progress is being made, the appearance of the new Comet Elenin in our Solar System means“additional resources” will have to be added “immediately” as the 2012 timeline for completion “may not be soon enough”. Sparking the fears of Minister Serdyukov, he says in this report, is that based upon the new orbit calculations for Comet Elenin, it appears in “all likelihood” that this celestial object is under some type of “intelligent control” and will approach our Earth “much closer” than originally thought this coming fall season.

I actually mentioned this before, now that I have my cable I saw a program on 2012 but it had US astrophysicists who commented on either a rogue planet coming between the sun and earth culminating with the grid going down here and therefore you know what happens then as they said it would take years if not decade to maybe get it back up again.

Tsunamis to the height of 3000 ft, their words, not mine, powerful magnetics from sun flares, a polar shift, etc, etc and this from astrophycists not doomsday prophets. Just saying what I saw and heard.

Quote :

Instead, they deny its existence and attribute all the major earthquakes and tsunamis, the shifting of the
earth on its axis by a few inches during the Chile earthquake, the movement of the South Island of New
Zealand eight inches closer to Australia during another earthquake, and the subsidence of Japan by as
much as 20 meters to “Natural Causes.”
This placates the majority, keeps most of us ignorant, and allows the world to go on playing war
games and watching propaganda and political theater on television as if everything is quite
“normal.”
But it isn't. And some people at NASA do know the full story, which is why, if you dig deep enough,
you'll be able to separate the truth from the BS, or at least be able to see a slightly different picture or
vision of the future once you fight your way through the smoke and mirrors to find that they've actually
been taking this “comet” very seriously indeed.

read the whole article in a pdf file, here: http://www.buycontacthasbegun.com/support-files/comet-elenin-planet-x-here-now.pdf

NASA = Never A Straight Answer

up til now, had been

NASA = Need Another Seven Astronauts

Could this be June 2011, or Nov 6?


Not sure.


Anyways this whole Elenin thing sure makes one wonder. What are the odds of it causing earthquakes of major magnitude on earth every time the "comet earth and the sun line up?

Also what are the odds of this astronomer finding this object with the small telescope. I mean they can hardly see the thing yet with high powered telescopes. And his name was convenient.

I am not trying to fearmonger, but common sense tells me that there is way more to this than is being told.

Leonids

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonids

The Leonids (/ˈliːənɪdz/ lee-ə-nidz) are a prolific meteor shower associated with the comet Tempel-Tuttle. The Leonids get their name from the location of their radiant in the constellation Leo: the meteors appear to radiate from that point in the sky. They tend to peak in November.

Earth moves through the meteoroid stream of particles left from the passages of a comet. The stream comprises solid particles, known as meteoroids, ejected by the comet as its frozen gases evaporate under the heat of the Sun when it is close enough – typically closer than Jupiter's orbit. The Leonids are a fast moving stream which come close to or cross the path of the Earth and impact the Earth at 72 km/s.[1] Leonids in particular are well known for having bright meteors or fireballs which may be 9 mm across and have 85 g of mass and punch into the atmosphere with the kinetic energy of a car hitting at 60 mph. An annual Leonid shower may deposit 12 or 13 tons of particles across the entire planet. Sometimes these trails of meteoroids cause meteor showers and sometimes meteor storms.

ELE


Extinction event

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event

An extinction event (also known as: mass extinction; extinction-level event (ELE), or biotic crisis) is a sharp decrease in the diversity and abundance of macroscopic life. They occur when the rate of extinction increases with respect to the rate of speciation. Because the majority of diversity and biomass on Earth is microbial, and thus difficult to measure, recorded extinction events affect the easily observed, biologically complex component of the biosphere rather than the total diversity and abundance of life.[1]

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LEO NID
NID = National Intelligence Department.
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/National_Intelligence_Department





So what's in a name?

From GLP.



Re: >>> LEONID ELENIN is NOT a REAL PERSON, IT'S A CODED MESSAGE <<< Quote [+] #

ELENIN IS A FAKE!!!
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According to nasa and everyone else, LEONID ELENIN discovered Comet Elenin"c2010x1" on December 10th 2010 in NEW MEXICO around constellation Leo. I FIND THIS VERY INTERESTING DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS PORTION OF THE SKY WAS NOT VISIBLE TO NEW MEXICO IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY OR FEBRUARY" its barely visible right now in may" YOU COULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE "New Mexico" OBSERVING A COMET THAT WAS IN THE CONSTELLATION LEO "SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE" DURING DECEMBER. According to the Elenin ephemeris on the JPL database, and all other ephemeris's, Comet elenin was in the constellation Leo during December. BUT constellation Leo, and Comet Elenin,WERE NOT visible from New Mexico. I will make a video using stelarium, or ceslestia showing that during DECEMBER AND JANUARY COMET ELENIN WAS NOT VISIBLE FROM NEW MEXICO. Sites with legitimate information have been going down or being changed almost everyday since I began researching. Im not into conspiracy theories BUT SOMETHING IS WRONG


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1354798/pg12

The electrostatic/ electromagnetic field of Earth causes 'dust storms' on the Moon twice a cycle- once as it is passing into Earth's field, and once as it is exiting it. The density of the electrically charged particles increases at the edge of the field.

As above, so below.... I assume this to be the same with Earth and The Sun. The crossing of this field would fall approxamately 6 months apart. By looking at the storms and IMF storms back at the end of October, begining of November, one could argue that to be the exiting of the Sun's protective shield. The start of winter. We are now entering the Sun's protective shield April/ May... 6 months later.

The significance of the 11/11 timeframe is big on many levels. IF electromagnetic field lines become denser during that point of our orbit 'round the Sun, it could give a pathway for metallic objects. The contraction of our Sun's sheilding seems to be significant! At 1400 UTC the sunspot number has fallen again. Down to 23. If pattern holds, it should rocket up to near 100 in the next few days. Or it will finally give out and fall to near zero.

Just a wrench in the works... good thread!!

well i like P and thought his take on elenin was more for here than the astrology room..so don't let the title fool ya

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Last week I labored over the html code in my e-mail campaign’s innards making all the fonts exactly how I want. Finally! What a great time to use them and book consults, buy things and check out the vast archives of my website... especially in these crazy times... crazy times exploited by those insisting on terrorizing others with tales of the end of the world, chaos, catastrophe and more... much of which is embellished beyond sensibility. Consider the assignment of upcoming catastrophe to the overly hyped Comet Elenin...



The onslaught of e-mail forwards and frantic online posting about Comet Elenin forced me to take time away from other priorities to research and make sense of this cometary apparition once and for all. This once-in-a-very-long-time comet reminds me of the photon belt phenomenon of years past. Remember that from back in the 1990's? Did we experience three days of darkness on Earth because photons made it happen? Perhaps symbolically, but never physically as predicted and touted as the disaster-de-jour. What about the Nostradamus scare in the late 1980's during which prophets promised a major earthquake in California. Y2K anyone? Do you recall the May 2000 Taurus collection of planetary coin that was going to split the planet or cause axial tilt? What about last year’s cardinal cross that promised to destroy the planet? These are just past examples of the same fear-mongering thing being done to Comet Elenin. It’s another of those attempts to scare the crap out of people for those who never got their turn at story telling time around the campfire as a child. Enough of this nonsense is enough, especially when it minimizes actual concerns a person might need to keep in the forefront of attention. You know, the economy, civility in discourse, remaining vigilant about terrorism threats while not becoming agoraphobia with paranoia, and pondering if Donald Trump’s hairpiece is indeed a graft from a Sasquatch.



Is Comet Elenin moving through the asteroid belt? Yes. Will that deflect it? We’ll have to see. Will it emit x-ray radiation as it passes by? Yep. Is it Planet X? No. Is it Nibiru? No. Will it destroy the Earth? No. Will we ever see it again? Not unless you plan on incarnating at least another thousand more times in this solar system. Is this fire in the sky? No, it’s actually ice and dust, reflecting sunlight and dramatically shimmering as it nears the Sun. Is it the blue star? No. It’s not a star. It’s not blue. Do comets have an effect? Yes. Ask Capricorn President Richard Nixon about Comet Kohutek coming closest to the Sun in his sign back in the early 1970's. Comet Halley booted dictators Baby Doc and the Marcos duo and gave Apartheid a major push forward in 1986. Throughout history, the rise and fall of leaders has been a consistent cometary theme. Possibly this is because people decide the “omen’s portending” requires actualization and take a course of action inspired by the heavens to invoke changes and take on campaigns they believe will make a difference on the planet. That could be cool if applied this time instead of the recycled EOTW refuse many attempt to invoke.



How about Elenin then? Will it boot anyone? Well, its node, heliocentrically, is in Aquarius. So, in big-picture theory, it aspires to do things that work for humankind. Its nodes line up with the Earth-Sun axis of Kim Jong Il - fingers crossed, assuming we do not get a scarier replacement. In September of this year, the comet reaches perihelion while the Sun is in Libra. So Libran political leaders not truly serving the needs of humankind might be due (or overdue) for removal from power.



Collectively, one might take a message from one of the after effects of the tragic Tucson shooting of last January to invoke this comet’s Aquarius/Libra template. Ron Barber, an aide of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords who was wounded twice in the mass shooting, in partnership with the University of Arizona, established the Center for Civility. This organization aspires to take polarized political factions and work with them to find common ground upon which solutions that work for the greater good can be built. Nice. And a boost and a bump from Comet Elenin would be appreciated.



Given the heliocentric node’s influence of Comet Elenin, let’s stay with the way the Sun sees things for the rest of this Galactic Times.



From the Sun’s vantage Jupiter moves into a square with the nodes of Pluto on the 27th of May. In the past I’ve had some great success with the use of gemstones ala the prescriptions of Vedic doctrine and delineation. However, after visiting enough holes in the ground to become more aware of Pluto’s domain and obtain potent reminders about how Pluto could easily be a featured candidate on the show, Hoarders, I’m very reluctant these days to dip into the Pluto pool more than I must. Yes, oil, petrol products and the like are Pluto realm resources, too, though typically described as Neptune in astrological signatures. Until there is a solar powered car (even nuclear power requires pillaging Pluto, not to mention the tragic byproducts recently revealed), like everyone else who does not walk everywhere they go, I must use Plutonian resources. With the unrest in the Middle East we’ve watched the evident value of Pluto’s oil fluctuate upon the speculations of greed mongers. I can’t help but wonder how that’s going to work out for them. We can certainly hope the end of this month observes the high watermark of oil prices and its damaging global impact.



I’m not sure that the use of Plutonian materials to propitiate is the wisest concept. Though Pluto hoards those things he deems precious, should he take a liking to a person who walks upon the surface of the Earth, he might just pop up and reward that Earthwalker. And if so, cool. But perhaps propitiating requires a less destructive process to produce positive results.



Back to the aspect at hand, Jupiter coming to square the nodes of Pluto... Jupiter and Pluto have some sort of workable relationship. Jupiter as Pluto’s brother and god of the gods worked with Mercury (Hermes) to arbitrate with Ceres (Demeter) when Pluto (Hades) abducted her daughter, Persephone (Core) - an act that despite Ceres’ resulting rage and her willingness to cut off her nose to spite her face managed to work out in some sort of tolerable solution. So, in this aspect we have Jupiter dividing the space between the nodes of Pluto. The south node of Pluto defines his nature, comfort zone status quo and sense of karma. The north node suggests an evolutionary track, fully intended, purposeful and conscious change, and his perception of dharma. Jupiter, by squaring the nodes, applies equal consideration to both of these powerful points of view held by Pluto. Again, he arbitrates with his brother, asking what attributes of each node most contribute to his total best case scenario objective(s). With such perspective, will Pluto invoke the benevolence and generosity he is capable of rendering, or shall he hold out, manipulate and seek revenge instead of justice? Remember that this is a collective pattern and everyone experiences the influences whether tuned into the Sun’s view or not. And if one’s heliocentric horoscope fits with the degree profile herein, that person becomes an ambassador, arbitrator or messenger to the cause Jupiter and Pluto share.



To synthesize Jupiter and Pluto on a more useable level for daily life, assume that a review of your deepest beliefs, darkest thoughts, soul-based motivations, intentions for an ideal existence and raw energy sit before the review board. Truly, what are you going to do? “Do you think you have a mark to make,” this pattern asks. “If so, stop talking about it and get around to it.” This pattern is potent, and similar supporting influences occur every three years. But in the now, the inciting itch of transformation and transcendence goes trans-continental, trans-planetary and perhaps trans-solar system. The belief that everything affects everything else runs strong in the pattern’s undercurrent. The sense of knowing that if one “knows,” one must invoke that knowing within every fiber of one’s being and consciousness. Perhaps given the way this year has been thus far that may feel a bit overwhelming. No matter. Jupiter taunts your consciousness into to sucking it up; Pluto promises that if you don’t seize the moment, regrets will follow. Together they chant, “Hey, you said you wanted to change the world. Get off your pasty posterior and put up.”



“Yeah, yeah, change the world, I’m still struggling day to day,” complains the initiate.



Isn’t there some Sun-centered guidance to deal with this personally? How about Mars square the nodes of Saturn? On the 24th that’s an alignment we all embrace. Actually this is another one of those perfectly balanced situations that comes about when transits divide the nodal axis of another planet. There’s a chance to review one’s history, tradition and protocol such that the good stuff can be kept and the obsolete junk ditched in a bin. A realistic view of goals and the resources presently available to reach those goals creates a bridge for gaining momentum and acquiring any lacking resources or developing uncultivated skills. Lamenting loses momentum. Should one count one’s blessings and come up feeling inadequate, muster the magic of motivation and move on to create opportunities, and in so doing create luck and fulfill fate.



These trends are challenging. As well, they are powerful, promising and provident for those who push themselves forward, with attentive eyes locked on purpose. Results will appear. Take it on. Pluto’s involved and he might just be persuaded by Jupiter to reward your rendering.



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So, astrology is like a galactic game of D 'n D? Only in this, the Cheetos and Mountain Dew are eternal?

The angles and planetary symbolism of these astrological readings have roots in many different areas. But I believe that all of these powers, etc are real and true angles of force and direction.
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If you want to cheat, about 2:00 in is where the good stuff starts.

MAGNETIC FIELDS!! A monkey man some x amount of years ago thought he heard the voice of god and did what he was told, but in actuallity, his mind was the source of this information. And when Earth is positioned in different spots (within the Sun's protction[summer] or outside[winter]) or in alignment with galactic sources of massive amounts of magnetism (magnetars have a magnetic signature that is one million billion billion times larger than Earth's magnetosphere!!![might be another billion in there. I'll undersetimate a bit to be safe.] And that is according to the astrophysical scientists!) you have major changes.

A possible reason for man to develope larger brains... when we lost the jaw muscles, we gained room for more 'head fat'... er, brains. Why the loss of muscle? A genetic defect. A mutation. A change in DNA.

Muscular Dystrophy! And a large supplier of these mutation-causing particles were showered upon Earth around 2 million years ago where we see changes in monkeys leading to ourselves.

Truths known to our distant ancestors have been lost due to ignorance, loss of discipline, cocky-ness, and evil of a select few throuout history and pre-history.

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like everyone else who does not walk everywhere they go, I must use Plutonian resources

Oil is great, but it is only for the people living in the now. People living in the 'real world' know oil is a fossil. Driving?!! Really? How does one drive across a glacial cravasse? Or a barron desert waste land? Oil takes you only so far, then your radiator boils dry and you walk.

If you control the water, and not the other way around... YOU WIN.

Have you heard of a "Manna Machine". Holy M.F.'N Shit!!

This is a little weird......coincidence? One or two maybe but wow.




1. The launch of the space shuttle Atlantis, meeting the Russians on the ISS.
2. Obama bringing the troops home. Obama bringing home 33,000 troops.
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3. 2 weeks till USA budget solved. Obama and Congress fighting over it now.
4. The resignation of the "Secretary of Treasury" soon in August.
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5. The Messiah is the largest space vehicle ever constructed, So is the iss.
6. August 16th date that Earth crosses Comet Honda's orbital path, 0.082AU
7. Wall clock set to 911. Twin towers destroyed.
8. Elenin's orbital path simular to comet in movie.
9. Captured frame matches, JPL Orbital sim., from June 23rd 2011. See website below.
10. ELE=Elenin, 2 Leo's Russian, 2 Small Telescopes, 10 Months.
11. Black President

It's all written out like a recipe. All we need to do now is put the ingredients together and see what a mess we make.

The fact that this large spacecraft is named Messiah is something to chew on.

I read somewhere yesterday again that there are three large spacecraft heading towards earth, one of them being supposedly 245 miles long, around Jupiter.

Apparently when they get to Mars? I think they can be seen by a telescope and are expected here December 2012 approximately.

that's some ship

i found this to be very interesting take on Elenin. We know it is not a huge object, but perhaps it is a superconductor as this article theorizes. Food for thought.

COMET ELENIN – “Let their be light

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Elenin is a very dangerous cosmic object. Sometimes we need to watch what an object does as well as watching the object while looking for clues. Elenin is not visible to the naked eye, but does appear to have an EM effect on our solar system at distances of 14+ AUs. Elenin is also dangerous because it is a long period (10000+ years) comet whose tail the Earth passes through. Comets are not balls of ice and dust like Nasa states. Nasa will not release this information because there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it except panic. Sit back and enjoy the ride and be thankful to be alive in this time to bear witness to this event.



A capacitor is a device for storing electric charge. Comets are electric cosmic capacitors that gather and store energy as they pass through space. Comets are electromagnetically connected to the sun and planets by EM ropes (JPL, 2005). Extreme EM fields can cause earthquakes. Elenin’s line up position with the Earth and sun correlates Earth seismicity. This is what HAARP research is based upon. EM energy lubricates fault lines and can cause fault slippage. The reason Elenin is causing quakes when other comets do not is because Elenin has been in deep space a long time gathering electrons and storing energy for discharging to the sun at perigee.

The EM field that results from the storage of such a large amount of electricity is connected to the Earth and influences geological activities as well as weather and more. A comets positively charged metallic core is ideal for storing and attracting electrons. Comets pick up electrons as they fly through space because the electrons are attracted to the metallic comet nucleus. The larger the comet and longer the comet travels through space without discharging, the more electricity is stored in the comet. When the comet approaches the sun, it begins to glow because the electron cloud is energized by the sun’s proton wind. The hydrogen protons combine with the oxygen in the solar wind to produce water in the comet’s tail; which is comprised of visible photons (coma) generated by the comet’s electric circuit. The sun provides the positive charge and the stored electrons provide the negative charge to complete the electrical circuit with the sun.

http://endgametime.wordpress.com/comet-elenin-let-their-be-light/