does anyone have a real plan

ok.. i will take just a minute to get to the point

wierd wierd weather day here..sleet-rain-snow-ice- thunder and lighting with wind gusts..perfect day to make soup..so
as i am peeling potatoes i am thinking about things and my brain says..
ok what if this..and what if that..and and and
do you have a plan????

and i thought about it and no i really don't..if i can stay here..which was my plan i pretty much know how to live off the land and pretty much think i will be ok..
but what if i have to leave...
which way do i go..what do i take..hummmmmmmmmmm
so i was wondering

do any of you have a plan...you don't have to disclose it, of course..
but
do you have one??


i was just wondering..

thanks

I've thought about this also.

Sure, we are told to have supplies and to also have a bug out bag for a fast exit.
But to where?
If something big happened, the roads could be closed or blocked. We cannot hide because we are all tracked and satillites can see us anywhere on this planet.
They already know who they want to live or die. There are lists.

I remember long ago reading that hoarding is illegal and that people will be arrested for it. They can see what you have in your home or buried in the ground.

I started buying supplies and bottled water during the last few years but only used cash.
I am like a girl scout and prepared for anything...... but more importantly, I am also prepared to die in my own home in a flash and without any fear because I know that we are eternal beings.
If you are at peace with yourself and the way you think and feel for others, you will be fine.

I stopped buying things........... for a while I was getting alot of things

I do have things in case of emergency all ready to go... I live in south florida everyone should have an emergency box and generator...
but I feel if the SHTF the generator is garbage... we wont be able to buy gas...

I honestly can not live like this... day in and day out being afraid if it will happen tomorrow or maybe in a month?

this is what I think some of us will know when its about to happen some of us will not know..
but I do think there will be ones who do know will set off a alert might be to late for others to get ready im talking like hours maybe minutes.. before the event...

I just know at the right time at that second some will know what to do...

Yes, if we let our spirit guide us, we will know exactly what to do at the right time.

*correction* I have already had dreams I already seen my self how it will start I know exactly where I will be...

and trust me... for a few days when I put all the puzzle parts together I nearly had a nervous break down..
I was ready to commit my self..

one more thing

I really really hope im wrong about everything I would rather be called a NUT job and be locked away
then for something really bad to happen

Just be at peace with yourself DD.
Sometimes dreams are put into our brains. Only think of positive thoughts and chase away the scary ones.
Everything will be dealt with in the way it is supposed to be.

We have a plan for power disruption and have stock piled some food, but I agree with Linda that the most important thing is to be at peace with oneself. We hardly watch TV anymore to listen to all the fear mongering by CNN. The strange weather is obvious and is confirming what we know is coming.

It is hard to have an escape plan when you don't know where the safe places are. Every area of the world has things that can happen so we plan on riding it out where we are with our friends. Some of them are hunters, some carpenters, some electricians and farmers so why would we want to go somewhere we don't know anyone.

Our guides have gotten us this far so I agree with DD that we will know if and when we need to act.

hi sky otter........i agree with linda we must be at peace with in our self......i´m planing on surviving but on the other hand i´m not afraid to die........

but really my entire life up to this point has been a survival training........i lived out of a tent and backpack for 15 years........so now i´ve been brushing up on my scavanger skills....... if tshtf i´ll grab my pack .... head for the mountains.......and hope for the best......

but honestly i don´t have fear cause i feel inside that everything is going to work out for the best........

hi guys

sorry i wasn't clear

i'm not afraid either and i do plan to stay here and yeah DD..i have stopped buying stuff..although it was only stuff at estate auctions like manual egg beaters and things that don't need electric or gas..but i have more than i need now
i also agree that if we live or die i am good with it..but
what i meant was..
what if it is a weather related thing.. like a flood or fire a nuclear blast nearby and a nasty clouds heading your way...that type of thing
maybe even megaphones with someone telling you to evacuate

do you have a plan if you have to leave your plan...cause my plan was to stay right where i am..BUT what if you have to go?
do you hide in the cellar
or
..do you have a plan
or
is the plan to play it by ear?

sorry it's that circle thing that gets me all the time..and normally i wouldn't even ask that type of thing and just trust i would figure it out on the fly..however since the december equinox i have been plagued with physical things that have given me great pause about it all ..one of the physical things was a badly sprained knee...that really changed how i even saw my house...not being able to walk for awhile
so as i was making soup my brain just went to what if....you have to leave
so sorry ..i was a bit misleading with my question..

i think from your answers though, that we will all be winging it....hey just like angels..

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what if it is a weather related thing.. like a flood or fire a nuclear blast nearby and a nasty clouds heading your way...that type of thing
maybe even megaphones with someone telling you to evacuate

This is the total worst case scenario. I deal with everything by seeking wisdom and then using it. That should be the basic plan that we all have in mind. If you think about it nothing else will help you unless you go down that road eventually of seeking knowledge in all areas of life. Spiritually mentally and physically.

Should we get into details about specific bomb shelters and expenses of thermal nuclear suits and gas masks. Underground faculties and food supplies, and action plans for disaster?

No I think that's unbalanced to be worrying or preparing for it when it's irrelevant physically. It would only be putting energy into creating it. Spiritually we can easily prepare ourself for the impossible by being at peace with our god and accepting those things which we can't change. But meanwhile lets just live our life in a happy loving way. We would be skipping ahead of ourself just a bit here when we don't have the material resources or warning to deal with disasters on this scale yet...And really how likely is this to happen anyway? In my opinion it's a total outcast anomaly because we would have to seriously screw up the collective consiousness to create these kind of events and they would lead no-where so it's not really an interesting path to be creating for our evolution. People are heading for something more sustainable and interesting. Something more creative and long lasting. I think they would find these outcomes unpleasant, miserable and dull. So I find those outcomes extremely unlikely at this point.

Sky Otter,
What a wonderful name.
You have started a thread here which I think,( under a different heading), should be a sticky.
A thread in which we could, and should, put our fears and aspirations for the future.

In every day life., if we didn't talk to our familly and friends about our doubts, fears , joy, happiness or whatever, it
would drive us crazy..., imagine having no-one to talk to, someone you couldn't express your joy and happiness to.!!
Remember the first time you fell in love..,such a new experience.., you just had to tell someone!! HMMM! bliss!
When we were younger., we told our parents about our fears, our best friends about our love and our spouse about
our hopes and aspirations. We told someone about things!
But this stuff that we have woken up to....Who can you trust to tell without seeming a fruitcake...unless you
have an extraordinary great friend!
You can't 'bottle' it up otherwise you'll go nuts, (maybe you are nuts!). So, you start researching and it gets crazier!
Who the feck can you talk to?... Mum & Dad will pat you on the head and say..,"there, there.., it's only a dream!.
Your best mate will say, "wicked, pass the joint!" and your partner will say, (Phew!, did the earth move for you too!)

US! Other fruitcakes like yourself.....( by the way, I love fruitcake). We are the only people you can get any sense out
of..,sometimes! At least we can talk about it without feeling odd ! We are your alter ego, you are mine!....We make sense
of the normal nonsense.
I don't know you., but I can tell you I love you,whether you be a man or woman (or in between) and mean it. I'll pray for you.., and mean it..........Where else can you get that!?
This crazy world of ours will not let us do that face to face because.......,it's just not done.. How crazy is that!?

When it comes to the fear of this stuff., you get scared!., that's when you start to grow up.! There's nothing like fear...don't you just love it!
It's natural and normal.., it's the survival instinct thats innate in all of us. Fear of the unknown. First, was fear for my self, immediately followed by fear for my beautiful daughters, my sisters and so on.. It's not helped by so called 'knowledgeable people'
spouting off about survival tactics and what to stock up on and what to do in case of a nuclear attack, martial law, massive solar
flares, incoming planets (Nibiru), Greys, Reptoids, Not only beings from other star systems...., but holy shit., from other Dimensions!! So.., two years supply of water and non genetically modified food, how to trap and kill a deer, build a .......will ye [b]STOP!![/b].
We are Spirit.....can't die, nor can our loved ones.,so what's the problem??
By the way., I'm going to rattle on a wee while.., so for those with a low tolerance level of straight- talk.. stop here, it gets worse..may I suggest exciting fearmongers such as
David Wilcock, Tsarion, Rense, Green and other gobshites. ( Gobshites are the sudden plethora of new age channellers that have come to the fore lately). Not that I don't believe 'em.............but I had a few pints with me mate last night, and he told me who was going to win the league., now that was frightening!.


Where was I?.. oh, yes
SPIRIT...and I don't mean whiskey. (although it helps)
Vibrational frequencies in tune with Gaia, which at the last count was 7.8 raising to 13 something or other, means we are in for a
shift of consciousness, and according to the Fibronacci something or other which means...............awww, who gives a
feck by this stage!!!?
Pint of Guinness please!!
Your turn!

( put your worries here...'cos they're no good anywhere else!)



Of course, this would give the PTB a heads up on how we in the 'community' think, a straw poll,.., but hey,
they think they know us any how.

No matter, I think it is very important that as a community.,albeit spread out,.. we should not only write about
spreading the news of what is happenening, to give links to other sites and videos, to build on the knowledge that was., and is, so strange to us.., but it's also very important to voice our fears and concerns..,very important.
Love,fear,aspirations, concerns and any emotions that are not expressed becomes psychosis.
Thank God I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm All.. I'm All!

Now, here's my plan....I'll tell you later when the voice in me head tells me!

OMG Tom! You are a riot!
You make me laugh so much. :laughter: I just LOVE your style!

I live in Belfast Linda.., for Christ sake don't mention riots. It took 30 years to get over the
last time some one said that!!

Darn it Tom, too bad you are soooo far away....I would love to invite you to a party....because YOU are obviously the life of any party! You crack me up.

ah Tom
now you've gone and done it...

i said not to disclose your plan....now they know we aren't all running in circles and in fear


i do have to say this though.. i am and have always been fear-less..and vocal about stuff...and amazingly no one has carted me off yet..

i bring up the ufo's and behind the scenes ptb every chance i get and always have ..there are tons of folks to talk to about it all and not just in a frivolous..she's-a-nut-job-lets-humor-her way either...sometimes i am surprized by the response..it's more they don't want to start the conversation but boy once the door is open there they are..
so i'm not worried or fearfull..

but i was curious about what others on here thought...since it is a real trickle down place...
i don't know how anyone else found camelot but i thought wow ultimate conspiracy stuff..and then the forum opened and then av and now here....ya do have to go thru a lot of mud and dirt to find the gold

ah where was i going with this oh well
another day another theory to check out

Interesting wording in the title here I think, in as much as, what constitutes a "real" plan? If by "real" you mean failsafe, then we'll need to assume that we can accuratley predict the effects of 'event' that we are planning for.

Assume is definitely the operative word there. If you ask me, there are simply too many scenarios to start planning specifically for any of them (especially since for a good many of those scenarios, 'planning' would likely consist of entirely selfish values).

I'm gonna stay loose like I always do. Things seem to work out well for me when I play it by ear. I literally stop and ask myself "what's the plan?" maybe 15 times a day, and the plan always changes.
I'm not super successful or anything just yet, but I'm definitely happy, although I'm also pretty lucky sometimes :clover: .

As far as any actual logistical planning for some 'event' that I've done goes, it's just what I've jokingly been calling my "armegeddon bag", which at any time could keep me self sufficient for a few weeks at least, be it for a summer festival tour or to escape the ash cloud from the Yellowstone supervolcano (which is overdue btw).

I've grabbed the bag many times for many reasons (girls, friends, work, etc.) to head out solo for awhile. I guess this is like the only thing I'm kinda neurotic about, but it's just really nice to know it's there so I can bail w/ some piece of mind if necessary.

Here's a good thread from PA about survival "Bug-out" bags.

sky otter wrote:

i said not to disclose your plan....now they know we aren't all running in circles and in fear

I would go so far as to say no-one on this forum is in any great degree of fear anymore. Which seems to be catching on a bit, especially when the solutions are presented.....Fear is important in some way not so much for feeling it in myself. But I have a lot of use for inducing it in my enemies....That becomes fun. I think each of us is progressing faster than we have in the past. Due to the photon energy increasing. Which is having this healing soothing effect on everything.

pilgrim wrote:

A thread in which we could, and should, put our fears and aspirations for the future.

When it comes to the fear of this stuff., you get scared!., that's when you start to grow up.! There's nothing like fear...don't you just love it!

How about we make plans for utopia instead.....That's a real plan. And scare the crap out of people who want to spread fear. I love that. Now that's something you could realistically fall in love with.......

What if there is more people awake than estimated? What if they started to co-operate, create, and unify. That kind of thing....

pilgrim wrote:

very important to voice our fears and concerns..,very important.

my plan is in motion, i see no reason to wait to put it into effect
***
i was shocked awake in july '08 by the movie "zeitgeist" which
led me to look down into the rabbit hole
***
i found PC, and then AV, and then home here
the forums have been important in 2 ways: to
discuss and check what i find out with people
who are searching like i am / also, as a resource
because when someone leaves an idea here, i
consider it, research it, agree with it, debunk it...
whatever
***
i got scared enough to try and lay in supplies... but
it didn't really work... we had to eat and drink my
month's worth of stuff when funds ran low, which was ok,
because by then, i wasn't so scared anymore
***
so i decided to stay right where i was and handle
anything which may come, in the meanwhile, continuing
to work on my spiritual path, because i knew a long
time ago that spirit is the only thing you take with you
when you die, so it must be most important
***
then, events conspired to adjust my thinking again
and i challenged myself, or my higher self presented the
challenge, or i have gone over the edge... not quite
sure which
***
and i sensed that in order to evolve into the earth mother
warrior that i want to be, i had to cease and desist playing
any of TPTB games - i simply refuse
***
and so i decided to untangle myself from material possessions
and MSM influence and habitual ego responses and to
turn the status quo of my life inside-out
***
i got a message, i think i have posted before:

i have lived my life
it is time for life to live me
***
i am still not sure how i am supposed to contribute to a
solution, except to cultivate a higher level of consciousness,
and if my efforts unleash any kind of positive energy,
i am intent on pushing it out into the grid where it can be
used by anyone who needs it, including me
***
so what is my PLAN?
***
to stay in the moment
to recognize fear, where it comes from, who generated it, and to let it GO
to look for signs, signals and indications of where to be, who to speak to
to do no harm
to leave every place better than i found it
to meditate and pray for the best result for everyone involved
to trust that everything i need will appear, as long as i stay balanced
to follow my intuition and instincts
to continue to rid myself of judgements and habitual reaction
to let my canoe be guided by current, downstream, with the flow
to fine tune my vibration, coaxing in more light, spiraling it upward
***
but hey, take all of this with a grain of salt... because i gave
blossom goodchild the benefit of the doubt and waited all night
for the ship

WH,
you weren't the only one looking for the Blossom's ships! LOL

Looking back, it was a good thing that it didn't come about. Nobody is going to come and save us but ourselves. It taught us to question everything that is told to us. Life is to be a learning experience, a ship coming to "save" us doesn't teach us much.


I have the same thoughts towards people who are waiting for the messiah who is going to save them, or Obama is going to save them. WRONG save yourselves folks.

sky otter wrote:

do any of you have a plan...you don't have to disclose it, of course..
but do you have one??

Yes :)

Quote :

How about we make plans for utopia instead.....That's a real plan.

this is a wonderful plan....i invision this everyday.........

My plan has an end goal, which is the same as where I am "co-creating":

A world where each person:
- takes full responsibility for all thier thoughts and actions,
- lives in harmony with themseleves and each other person,
- lives in harmonlywith the Earth and all her creatures and kingdoms,
and where we are all free from tyranny and where those who should not have been here will be gone for good!

For the highest and best good of all make it so!

A..

sky otter wrote:

ok.. i will take just a minute to get to the point

wierd wierd weather day here..sleet-rain-snow-ice- thunder and lighting with wind gusts..perfect day to make soup..so
as i am peeling potatoes i am thinking about things and my brain says..
ok what if this..and what if that..and and and
do you have a plan????

and i thought about it and no i really don't..if i can stay here..which was my plan i pretty much know how to live off the land and pretty much think i will be ok..
but what if i have to leave...
which way do i go..what do i take..hummmmmmmmmmm
so i was wondering

do any of you have a plan...you don't have to disclose it, of course..
but
do you have one??


i was just wondering..

thanks

A plan ?

You mean a survival plan ?

Survival as a species ?
Cultural Surivival ?
Survival on a national scale or,

Personal Survivial ?

No matter who we are , or what we do I'm sure a good many have at least once read or heard these initials SHTF. Shit hits the fan or maybe shit hitting the fan. A figure of speech denoting the breaking down of society as we know it. Scary. Now on the other hand if someone actually stood behind, say a large floor fan, then proceeded to toss a large amount of fresh, moist fecal matter into the spinning blades would hold no pleasantry for most normal folk either, yet both aspects of these phrase would be hopefully followed by a clean-up endeavor.

Now if that large electric fan shorted or overheated during such an action, burst into a fecal/methane fueled blaze thus burning your house down along with all it's belongings would truly be a hard to turn back situation.

Plans are good, but will is a must. If and when such times come we who would strive to survive may change from the people we were before.

LH: Agree, a plan must be followed by action - otherwise it is just useless pontificating.

One must organize ones life such that one is ready for what you know is coming.

A..