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wow

this feels right to me...

thanks M
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PostSubject: Re: LOST SYMBOL RA COVER UP   LOST SYMBOL RA COVER UP Icon_minitimeThu Dec 31, 2009 9:38 am

I agree Sky. I think this is the right rabbit hole.

I feel this is part of the mason's secret.

I feel that there is a connection to the Tree of Life. Anna Hayes talked about the different star systems being connected at a certain frequency to create this matrix of reality. I am still trying to piece this together, so any help would be appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: LOST SYMBOL RA COVER UP   LOST SYMBOL RA COVER UP Icon_minitimeThu Dec 31, 2009 9:46 am

scratch

ok..
off the top of my head...i have always been sympatico with the pleiades
they are often refered to at the 7 sisters even thought they are many stars in that system
so there is the number 7
if you count the points on the cross you have 13 ends...the number 13
and if you draw a line around the outside of the cross you get a hexagon shape

i will have to go look at some astronomy to confirm this thought
but
the double spiral...how do we and the pleidades fit in there

gotta get some more coffee, been out shoveling the snow
so brain is not totally engaged...
but i am going to listen again and read more about this guy
i'll be back...lol
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the bull..the minotar..the labryinth...the bull mummies???? hummmmmmmmmmm
lots to think on

went and copied the tag with this vid for reference

Was The Lost Symbol author Dan Brown, forced to drop the Key of Solomon and the Ra symbol link to the origin of Freemasonry with the Hebrew Key of Solomon pictogram puzzle cipher? The talisman sourced from the Clavicula Salomonis - Solomon Key manuscript in the British Library. (Wayne Herschel - Hidden Records). It is the original and earliest evidence for the Lost symbol of Ra and it is about to reveal its shocking star secret at great risk to the author. Dan Brown dropped the story in The Lost Symbol novel suddenly and changed the title.

The truth will challenge the human origin theory and rock the foundations of all religions.

Wayne Herschel, author of The Hidden Records has all the historical detail online at:

http://www.keyofsolomon.net
http://www.thehiddenrecords.com
http://www.oneism.org

March 09 - History channel 'Ancient Alien' documentary showed the linked Mars Tikal Pleiades discovery. It is mirrored with a Vatican secret. The obelisks in Rome seen in Dan Brown's Angels & Demons trailer, the Washington DC layout as well as the original star map of Hiram Abiff with the lost symbol deciphered.
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gosh, i am grateful you are both here....
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So what does this mean exactly? This book describes the real location of eye of Ra, or masonic sun? Its basically correcting a map error, an amazing map error,but a map error none the less. I will definitely be buying this book.
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PostSubject: Re: LOST SYMBOL RA COVER UP   LOST SYMBOL RA COVER UP Icon_minitimeThu Dec 31, 2009 12:37 pm

sunny

yep NWO..it's now on my must have list also

ok..i needed to refresh my brain on the pleiades so i went here for the basics and found more than that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(star_cluster)

while reading this line popped out at me..hummmmm can't copy from there any more..
ok it was saying that
the distance to the pleiades is an important first step in the so-called cosmic distance ladder

in one of the pics the star was at the top of a ladder..and then in another part it said about the obilisks..
soooooooooo are the obilisks all the same size..
and if they are pointing to the pleiades are they also telling how far they are?

then down further is says
the core cluster is 8 light years

could we make the assumsion that the 8 could also be a double spiral?

also in the first paragraph it lists all the different peoples and what they called the plieades... from the Maori to
the cherokee

so a lot of suposition here to do more research on...
but another thought occurs to me
that the obilisk is a male symbol pointing to a cluster of stars considered female
and so the old story of the "gods" impregnating earthlings was always
in my mind anyway of male spirits and female eathlings...
what if it was the other way....hummmmmmmmmmm
yep..
more to check out

what do you guys think??
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WineHippie wrote:
gosh, i am grateful you are both here....

After reading the new threads and posts today of everybody I agree hippie my love, I am so glad you guys are all here with your awakeness and intelligence. Thank you cause I get a headache just thinking about stuff and that's as far as I get. scratch
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New World Orphan wrote:
This book describes the real location of eye of Ra, or masonic sun? Its basically correcting a map error, an amazing map error,but a map error none the less. I will definitely be buying this book.

Too bad christmas is over. I'll have to buy it myself.

hehe

This puts more credibility to the Law of One book, in my opinion.
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http://www.outtheretv.com/video_programming_preview.cfm

Here is an interview that will only be on for a short while . Very interesting.
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So many videos I have to catch up on. Using a laptop since I left the ex I have to buy more time if I watch videos on my portable little modem. Aaargh, hate it, except that when I get a proper computer I can catch up then. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: LOST SYMBOL RA COVER UP   LOST SYMBOL RA COVER UP Icon_minitimeThu Dec 31, 2009 10:51 pm

LOVIN this POST!!!

NICE INFORMATION on the POSSIBLE "lost" CONNECTIONS to associations with RA!!


Thanks for sharing!! :) wave
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Part of this is the ladder in the middle. The christmas tree under the star. etc.

Well it is no ordinary ladder it represents Jacobs Ladder.

Christian interpretation
In the Gospel of John 1:51 there is a clear reference to Jacob's dream (Genesis 28:12) and it points towards Jesus Christ who is called with his title of Son of Man:

"And he said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, you will see heaven opened, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man."



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Now to the mason connection....

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This is a mason's tracing board. It shows Jacob 's Ladder coming from the star of Ra. The way to find it is to use the Pleiadies stars or the Orion constellation, according to his research.

A Mason is sometimes called "a traveling man." One of the Masonic catechisms gives us an insight into this term. "Q. - Did you ever Travel? A. - My forefathers did. Q. - Where did they travel? A. - Due East and West. Q. - What was the object of their travels? A. - They traveled East in search of instruction, and West to propagate the knowledge they had gained." Notice the cardinal points of the compass on the Border of this Tracing Board; they define the East–West direction in Masonic terms, and, in doing so, they describe the nature of the journey to which the new Mason apprentices himself. That journey from West to East is represented, symbolically, by the progress through the Masonic Degrees; and it is, in fact, the ascent up Jacob’s Ladder—one of the "Principal Rounds" for each Degree.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob's_Ladder


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There are many tracing boards but the symbology is in them all ... Look at this one.

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Notice 7 stars to the left of the moon (pleiadies) and the stars to the right...Orion . The 3 in the middle gave it away for me.
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scratch

well the ladder sure looks like an obilisk shape to me...in the first pic
Lightning posted a vid that i think ties into this..
i hope she wouldn't mind if i copy it to here
notice the double cross at 1:56, 2:00 and 2:03
it's an interesting thought and i feel somehow connected with this conversation





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i don't know who did the last pic you posted but i am seeing 13 stars- total
a dagger piercing the heart
5 columns with a hive (????) in front
is the hive a mentality or a pictograph of sweetness??
a ladder shape above the moon..or is that a pictograph of the ark
and the boat into the mountian..

looks to me like some artist had a field day with stuff
but should we take it to mean anything???
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Don't forget the tree of life.

Noah's arc represents the DNA that came to earth.
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sunny
adding this here as well as in the astrology section..as it seems to fit. some interesting conjecture

Web site www.alcseattle.com
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Happy New Year, and what a year this will be. It's full of potential
for new beginnings. It's a number 10 year (2010), and it's also a 2+1
= 3 year. The number 10 gives the opportunity for new experiences.
What we think and believe is what we create, and this year it is very
important to think good thoughts because the frequency of Earth is so
high that things now manifest almost instantly. The number three rules
social life and travel.

We ended 2009 with a full moon partial lunar eclipse on December 31,
and will end 2010 with a total lunar eclipse on December 21, 2010.
This will happen at the time of the Winter Solstice. This is when the
Sun and Mercury will line up with the Galactic Center. Wow! What an
eclipse that will be. Kali Yuga information (Vedic Astrology) says the
great cycle will end in 2010, not 2011 or 2012. Who is right?

On February 14 we enter into the year of the Metal Tiger. This year
will be ruled by the planet Uranus, which is considered the planet of
change. The tiger symbolizes power, passion and daring. The Metal
Tiger is bound to be active, aggressive and passionate. Problems will
be solved in a direct or even a radical way. The Tiger is sudden,
unorthodox and drastic in his actions. This particular Tiger is easily
stirred by both good and bad influences and will tend to act
independently because he hates having his freedom curtailed. The fiery
heat of the Tiger's year will touch everyone's life. In spite of its
negative aspects, we must realize that it could have a cleansing
effect.

Last year we were in the year of the Ox, which was ruled by Saturn the
tester. This brought a year of many challenges on many different
levels. This year will be ruled by Uranus which is considered the
planet of strikes, revolutions, upheavals and change. It will be a
very fast-paced year with totally unexpected events happening all over
the world. Uranus has been going through the sign of Pisces since
March of 2003, which is when we attacked Iraq. Pisces is the last sign
of the zodiac and is also a water sign. The Bible says that the end of
the cycle will come with floods. Look at all the major storms and
flooding there has been since 2003, and water will continue to cleanse
the Earth for a while.

On May 28 Uranus will move into the fire sign Aries and will stay
there until August 13, 2010. Then it will retrograde back into Pisces
for a few months before it goes into Aries to stay for seven years. It
takes approximately 84 years for Uranus to move through the zodiac.
The last time Uranus went into Aries was in 1927. Shortly after that
year the Stock Market crashed and a new era began. Will we again see
more problems with our economy, or will it work out in a different
way? The Earth is on a higher frequency now than it was in 1927. This
could be the year when new inventions that have been held back will
start coming out into the public. This could be pertaining to free
energy devices, electric cars, new healing modalities, or anything
else that is new or technical.

Jupiter will move into Pisces on January 18, 2010 where it will stay
for approximately one year. This means that both Jupiter and Uranus
will be in Pisces for the first few months of 2010, so look for more
large water events in various parts of the world. Uranus has been
affecting England and the South Pacific. When Uranus moves into Aries
we will start seeing more events in Hawaii and Alaska. Jupiter will
move into Aries from June 6 to September 9, 2010, and then it will
retrograde back into Pisces for the rest of the year. Mars will stay
in the hot fiery sign of Leo until June of 2010, so watch your temper,
and Mercury is retrograde this month.

Saturn was in Virgo, the sign that rules health issues, the last
couple of years and many people had health challenges as that planet
went through Virgo. We had a flu pandemic and the House and Senate
both voted for a new health care system here in the United States.
Saturn will retrograde back into Virgo on April 7, and stay there
until July 21, 2010. This will give our congressmen time to fine tune
the Health Care Bill if they haven't finished it by that time.

Then Saturn will move into Libra to stay for the next two and a half
years. This is an entirely different vibration. Libra rules lawyers,
courts of law, the justice system, foreign policies and trade, and
social consciousness of the people. I think that the people who have
been trying to control us for so long will finally see their day in
court.

We start 2010 with a lunar eclipse on ten degrees Cancer with the Sun
in Capricorn, both are cardinal signs. This means there will be many
changes in the year to come. It is better to go with the flow then to
fight events as these changes continue to happen. Being the United
States astrological chart has the Sun on 13 degrees Cancer there will
be lots of changes in our government that will start at the beginning
of this year.

There were many people expecting Barack Obama to sign away our freedom
at the global warming summit in Copenhagen in December. This did not
happen because the meeting kind of fell apart. I don't believe we are
causing Global Warming. We have totally polluted our world and this
needs to be cleaned up, but the warming is caused by something else
because all the planets in our solar system have heated up. I have a
book called Global Tyranny Step by Step by William F. Jasper that was
printed in December of 1992. It's about the United Nations and the
Emerging New World Order. If the treaty was not signed, doesn't that
mean we won the first rung against a New World Order under the United
Nations? Is this the beginning of our freedom?

In the above book he states "The first UN Environmental Conference,
held in Stockholm, Sweden June 5-16, 1972 proved to be the launching
pad for the worldwide campaign to establish a UN planetary
environmental authority. One result of the conference was the
establishment of a United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) intended
as the overseer of a future monitoring system of the world's
environment. The man selected to be the first executive director of
this new agency was Maurice Strong, a Canadian, who had served as
secretary-general of the Stockholm event and was at that time a
trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation. This same Maurice Strong was
named 20 years later to serve as secretary-general of the United
Nations Conference on Environment and Development summit in Rio de
Janeiro a few years ago." The people who run this environment group
would end up getting billions of dollars, which would put them in a
position of power over others.

The modern world's financial system was perfected in Frankfurt in the
province of Hesse. Mayer Amschel Bauer (later called Rothschild)
discovered that although loans to farmers and small businesses could
be profitable, the real profits lay in making loans to governments.
Mayer Amschel was born in Frankfort in 1743. He served a three year
apprenticeship in Hanover at the Bank of Oppenheim. During this time
he met Gen Baron von Estorff who was the principal adviser to
Landgrave Frederick II of Hesse.

Landgrave was the wealthiest man in Europe at that time. He inherited
most of his money from his father, Wilhelm the Eighth, brother of the
King of Sweden. Landgrave died in 1785 and Rothschild attained
absolute influence over his successor Elector Wilhelm 1. Landgrave's
sudden death had placed Rothschild in charge of the largest fortune in
Europe. This large fortune originally came from Sweden and was taken
over by Rothschild and out of that came the beginning of The New World
Order.

Why has there been so much emphasis on the Scandinavian countries
lately? Have all of you seen the spiral that appeared in the sky over
Norway on December 9, at the time Barack Obama was given his Nobel
Peace Prize in Oslo? Is that a coincidence or not? There has been much
speculation about what caused this spiral. Some say it was a missile,
others say it was HAARP or the Blue Beam Project. Could our ET friends
have done something to cause a spiral in the sky? I don't know what
caused it, but it did open up a black hole and it's my understanding
that a black hole is a doorway to another dimension. Did you feel the
Stargate open?

Did you know that on December 9, the Mayan Dreamspell glyph was that
of the Sun which activates Orkney Island just north of Scotland which
is 3 degrees away from Stonehenge? The area of Stonehenge receives
energy from a huge black hole in space that holds 27 galaxies in place
which includes our Milky Way galaxy. In other words powerful energy
came to Earth from our great Central Sun. I believe that is when
England had a very large storm.

Did you know that the word Elohim (our creator gods) came from the
word Ella, which means The Shining Ones? The Shining Ones are often
depicted with horns on their heads like the Vikings. This was a symbol
of wisdom and rulership and to indicate they were descendents of the
Atlantians who were endowed with power. Michelangelo sculpted Moses
with horns on his head to show his connection with royalty.

Did you also know that the oldest complete version of the Ring Lord
Cycle comes from the Norse mythology of the Volsunga Saga. Compiled
from more than forty separate legends, the 13th century Icelandic tale
relates to the god Odin, to the kingdom of the Nine Worlds, and to a
dark forest called Mirkwood - a name later repeated by Tolkien in The
Lord of the Rings. It also tells of how Prince Sigmund of the Volsung
dynasty was the only warrior able to pull the great sword of Odin from
a tree in which the god had driven it to its hilt - as replicated in
the Arthurian story of the sword and the stone.

The story of the Ring Lords relates to nine rings or the council of
nine. Anunnaki overlords were said to have governed by way of a Grand
Assembly of nine councilors who sat at Nippur. The nine consisted of
eight members (seven males and a female) who held the Rings of divine
justice, along with their president, Anu, who held the One Ring to
bind them all. This corresponds with the seven archangels (Elohim) of
Hebrew record.

According to Zecharia Stitchin, Enki and his sister Ninhursag were our
main creator gods. It's my understanding that Enki and Ninhursag came
from the Fischer King lineage that originally came from Neptune a long
time ago. This is the same lineage Jesus (Yeshua) came from. The Old
Testament in the Bible is the story of two brothers who fought with
each other. Enki felt like a father to the people he had created and
wanted to protect them. Enlil was the fierce god known as Jehovah who
wanted to destroy earthlings.

The tale of the Ring Lords pertains to the Inner Earth. Where is the
largest entrance to the Inner Earth? Its north of Norway. Are we about
to meet our brothers and sisters of the inner earth? Are they trying
to point our attention to that area with all the signs in the sky and
UFO activity around Norway? Did you know there was a UFO that warped
into a cross as seen in the heavens above Norway on December 22, 2009?
Is that the cross in the sky predicted to appear at the end times? We
do live in interesting times.

I listened to a very interesting program on Coast to Coast on December
21, 2009, with David Sereda who is a scientist and spiritual explorer.
By comparing the quantum universe to astronomical models, as well as
correlating Hopi prophecy, he theorizes there is going to be a massive
energy shift as our solar system crosses into another "galactic
shell." After this shift, he believes the solar system will become
lighter, both in weight and spiritual energy. As we enter this new
area/dimension of the galaxy, the sun will release a super high burst
of energy and everything will be different. A blue vapor or cloud will
appear suddenly and earth will enter it. When this happens we will all
change in the twinkling of an eye. He correlates this to happen around
2012, or before when the earth lines up with the galactic center.

Cliff High of Web Bots says the Sun is being wound up like a clock and
ready to let go at any time. It's being wound up by magnetic strings
and when it lets go, a large magnetic ball will come off the Sun
followed by a CME. Could this be the super high burst of energy that
David Sereda expects to happen? This could occur at any time. The
Bible says, "The heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the
elements will be dissolved with fire. Then we will have a new heaven
and a New Earth where righteousness dwells. In the twinkling of an eye
the New Earth will appear, and we will change from mortal to immortal
bodies." Then we will be able to live as long as we desire on a new
planet Earth. Sounds good to me. So Be It!

Be peaceful, and walk softly on this beautiful planet! I send you my
love!

*****Mahala Gayle *****



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cheers
went looking cause i hadn't heard about any ufos over norway..and i found this..very interesing

http://www.realufos.net/

scratch

http://www.ufocasebook.com/
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and this at:.. http://www.earthfiles.com/
i wonder if it is a blue cloud?

December 26, 2009 - NASA Reports Earth Close to
Unexpected Interstellar Cloud, a “Local Fluff.”
“The Voyagers (spacecraft launched in 1977) are not actually
inside the Local Fluff. But they are getting close and can sense what
the cloud is like as they approach it. ...There could be interesting
times ahead!” - Merav Opher, Ph.D., NASA Heliophysicist


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Voyager 1 entered the surprising heliosheath in Dec. 2004;
Voyager 2 followed almost three years later in Aug. 2007. These crossings
were key to discovering the unexpected interstellar cloud, or galactic “Fluff.”
Illustration by NASA.

NASA reports “the Fluff is held at bay just beyond the edge of the solar system by the sun's magnetic field, which is inflated by solar wind into a magnetic bubble more than 10 billion kilometers wide. Called the heliosphere, this bubble acts as a shield that helps protect the inner solar system from galactic cosmic rays and interstellar clouds. The two Voyagers are located in the outermost layer of the heliosphere, or heliosheath, where the solar wind is slowed by the pressure of interstellar gas. The fact that the Fluff is strongly magnetized means that other clouds in the galactic neighborhood could be, too. Eventually, the solar system will run into some of the Fluff, and its strong magnetic fields could compress the heliosphere even more than it is compressed now. Additional compression could allow more cosmic rays to reach the inner solar system, possibly affecting terrestrial climate and the ability of astronauts to travel safely through space.”


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sunny
ok..blizzard conditioins here ..nasty stuff out there..perfect for looking stuff up
found this Sereda guy that she mentioned and from this little blurp going to go listen


Host:
George Noory

Guests:
David B. Sereda, Dr. Robin Kelly



Filmmaker, spiritual explorer, and scientist David Sereda talked about possible energy shifts coming around the time of 2012. By comparing the quantum universe (micro solar systems) to astronomical models, as well correlating Hopi prophecy, he's theorized there's going to be a massive energy shift, as our solar system crosses into another "galactic shell." After this shift, he believes the solar system will become lighter, both in weight and spiritual energy.

As we enter this new area/dimension of the galaxy, the sun will release a super high burst of energy and everything will be different-- a blue vapor or cloud will appear suddenly and Earth will enter it, he detailed. Sereda correlated this event with NASA's two windows for intense solar activity/flares-- in 2011 and 2013.

He discussed new discoveries from NASA that pertain to the center of the galaxy, and how dark matter and dark energy are possibly linked to the conscious force of the universe. He also touched on the recent Sky Spiral seen over Norway, which he concluded had too perfect of a pattern to be the result of a Russian rocket mishap. Further, he suggested that most of the planets in our solar system are inhabited by energetic bodies of light or spiritual beings, but our ability to perceive them is very limited.


The last hour of the program featured Open Lines.


Appearing briefly in the first half-hour, previously scheduled main guest, Dr. Robin Kelly from New Zealand, was cut short due to technical difficulties.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/12/21
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Friggin cold and snowy here too. Coldest day I remember for a while.

Thanks for the C2C link. I'll give it a listen and compare notes later.

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lol!

thanks M

ya beat me by seconds..he has tons of stuff on you tube..david sereda, i mean






















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Go team Micjer and sky, you guys are finding some gems.
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some voyager info if you are interested..obviously this isn't new stuff
i haven't found mention of this barrier or cloud being blue..but i haven't gone thur all of it either


http://search.nasa.gov/search/search.jsp?nasaInclude=voyager
4 pages of links with brief descriptions

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http://www.astrobio.net/exclusive/255/voyage-of-the-voyagers-first-quarter-century
Outer Solar System
Posted: 08/20/02
Author: Astrobiology Magazine staffwriter

Summary: When initially launched on August 20, 1977, the Voyager missions to Jupiter and Saturn were considered mission-capable for around 5-year lives. But after 25 years, there is a good chance that another 25 years for their tour is on-course

In 1977, setting off to probe Jupiter and Saturn, Voyager 1 launched August 20 and Voyager 2 launched Sept 5, 1977. Today the twin spacecrafts are literally the farthest human-made object. Beyond the horizon of human imagination even one generation before it--the Voyager series celebrates their first quarter century of exploration.

As the spacecraft venture to the ends of the solar system, remote-control reprogramming has endowed their electronics to gain greater capabilities than they possessed when they left the Earth. Their two-planet mission to Jupiter and Saturn doubled to become four, including Uranus and Neptune. Their five-year lifetimes first stretched to 12 and today, twenty-five and counting.

Credited with some of the most spectacular images of the Giant Planets--Jupiter and Saturn-- the Voyagers also discovered active volcanoes on one of Jupiter's moons, Io. When flying by Neptune, the Voyagers notably photographed an atmospheric storm of near planetary proportions.

But even with these historical milestones, the semi-retired Voyager mission today still performs more than just its own maintanence, but indeed targets two key, remaining jobs. First, at least one of the Voyagers (likely Voyager I) will find the far edge of any solar influence (boundary where the Sun's wind meets its equal as interstellar wind).

Break on Through to the Other Side
The science of finding the solar boundary, or what's beyond the Sun's particle wind (called the heliopause) is daunting. Already the most distant Voyager 2 is 85 times the Earth-Sun distance (85 Astronomical Units, or 1 AU=93 million miles). The closer Voyager I is 68 AU. The technical definition of the heliopause is the place where the expanding solar bubble of wind is exactly counterbalanced by the inward interstellar wind. Where solar and interstellar fluences meet, is a region of our solar neighborhood far beyond the known planets.
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As Voyager-1 and Voyager-2 search for the boundary of our sun's influence they continue to push the boundaries of our exploration envelope. Practically speaking, this quest also pushes the operating skills of the Deep Space Network that tries to keep after the Voyagers. The Canberra Australia antenna (70 m, or 230 ft in diameter) is one of only three transmitting dishes that make up the communication hub of all interplanetary missions. But only Canberra has enough signal strength (20 kW) to track the Voyagers and send basic commands for up to 12 hours every day.

To establish active communication channels, that lag or time component (even back to the 1970's for receiving hardware) necessarily also involves a great spatial distance. For example, the Voyager command sequence is now measured in the unique quantity of 'light-hours'. Almost twelve light-hours, for a radio signal travelling at the speed of light (186,000 miles per second), initiates a beep to Voyager from Earth.

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http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/voyager_mystery_031105.html
Mystery: Is Voyager at Solar System's Edge?
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 01:21 pm ET
05 November 2003
Voyager 1 has phoned in from the edge of the solar system to let us know what it's like out there. Now scientists are arguing over whether the 26-year-old spacecraft has really reached a telltale and important boundary.
Controversy is brewing over whether Voyager 1 has crossed the termination shock, a poorly understood envelope some 8.4 billion miles (13.5 billion kilometers) away, where supersonic particles from the Sun -- riding out on the so-called solar wind -- should slam into interstellar plasma and drop to subsonic speeds.

New Voyager data show something is up, but it's not clear what.

Astronomers expect the boundary to be somewhere between 85 and 120 astronomical units from the Sun (1 AU is the distance from Earth to the Sun). Launched in 1977, Voyager 1 is 90 AU from the Sun as of today -- farther from Earth than anything else that's ever left this world and well beyond the solar system's nine planets.

Two interpretations

Voyager recorded a large increase of a certain type of energetic particles, hinting that the craft has detected the expected drop in solar wind speed and has encountered interstellar plasma, according to research led by Stamatios Krimigis of the Applied Physics Lab at John Hopkins University.

Krimigis and his colleagues argue the spacecraft exited the supersonic solar wind, possibly beyond the termination shock, on about Aug. 1, 2002 at a distance of 85 AU from the Sun and re-entered it about 200 days later at 87 AU.

Another team, however, has a different take on the data. A study led by Frank McDonald at the University of Maryland concludes Voyager has yet to reach the termination shock.

"Either way, Voyager 1 has entered a region of our solar system that has never yet been explored," says University of Michigan professor Len Fisk, who was not involved in either study.

The two interpretations were discussed at a NASA press conference today and will be published in the Nov. 6 issue of the journal Nature.

Outbound

Voyager 1 will eventually pass the termination shock and, barring catastrophe, other expected boundaries. That will put the craft in interstellar space. Scientists are eager to learn as much as possible during this first trip through the edge of the solar system before the machine runs out of fuel in about the year 2020, rendering it unable to communicate.

Voyager 2, launched in the same year, is about 70 AU away. Both robotic explorers are headed toward two other boundaries beyond the termination shock. The heliopause marks the region where the solar wind no longer exists and interstellar plasma rules. Then there is the bow shock, created by the entire heliosphere plowing through space. The bow shock is akin to the ripple of water raised by a boat's bow.

Previously, Voyager data was paired with observations from the Hubble Space Telescope to find evidence that the outer shell, the bow, shock, in fact exists as theory predicts.

Communications will be lost with both Voyagers before either can reach the bow shock.

In figuring out Voyager 1's environment, researchers are hampered by a non-working onboard plasma detector. It would have directly measured the solar wind speed definitively.

Krimigis' team instead measured one sort of particle, deciding that their quantity and type show the solar wind must have slowed down. McDonald's team analyzed a different sort of energetic particles and determined they were accelerated somewhere else, out beyond Voyager's location, and suggest Voyager has yet to reach the termination shock.

Fisk, who analyzed the two papers for Nature, says the termination shock is probably not a fixed boundary anyway. Its location will vary depending on solar activity and may in fact be moving outward now and for the next few years.

Advantage Krimigis

"I tend to agree with Krimigis [and colleagues] that their data can most readily be explained if the termination shock has been crossed," Fisk writes. He says it's possible the shock front then moved outward, putting Voyager back inside it. Fisk said McDonald's analysis suggests either Krimigis is wrong or the termination shock could have a more complex shape than scientists expected.

Only more data from Voyager 1 -- if it encounters the boundary either again or for the first time -- will settle the issue, Fisk said.

The twin Voyager missions explored all the gas giant planets before trekking out beyond Pluto. Voyager 1 is the most distant manmade object. Each spacecraft carries a gold record that serves as a "greeting to the universe," with sounds and images selected to portray the diversity of life and culture on Earth.
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Finally caught up on this thread, pretty amazing. Kinda proves that no one really knows whats going to happen on 2012 , except me of course.
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@NWO....You've got to write a book then. Get a web-site. Put on a free e-book so everyone will think you are not in it for the money. Get a couple of whistleblowers to back up your story. (Don't use Dr Deagle, you might lose credibility)

Now in your home page be sure and use some terminology that the spiritual hunters want to hear. Tell them that they must be on the right path if they are reading your posts. Place some links to accepted spokesmen/woman like David Icke , AJ, Dr.Greer, etc.

Now spring a DVD on them and include your book in the package. Maybe a free Hooters calendar!!







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One word of advice....don't pull a Blossom and give a particular date for anything. Book sales will plummet!!!

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Btw. With all of this expert advice. I want in for 10%.

I'll have my lawyer draw up the papers.

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Once you have read this I will take the post down!!! If the smurfs can do it .... so can I.


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