does this Norway spiral = IN SPACE or even NEAR SPACE?
I think not!
Not to mention at the 3rd stage the rocket has spent most of its fuel supply. This thing was stationary in the sky spinning for several minutes at minimum and some reports say it was there for more than ten minutes. This would not be possible with the remaining fuel for the 3rd stage engine.
Further the 3rd stage is less than 1/3 the mass of the entire rocket. whatever was seem in the skies over Norway was HUGE. There is no possible way this was the 3rd stage of an ICBM on the edge of space.
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700 miles away, and the atmosphere height is what? 60-70 miles up to space?
That would mean the rocket had to travel 10 miles west for every 1 mile up. That incline angle is FAR FAR too low for ANY rocket that goes into space.
Rocket theory is smashed. There is no ICBM that travels a 10/1 incline angle. It is rediculous and near impossible.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:12 pm
THE BLACK HOLE AT THE END OF TIME
CERN’s LHC is more powerful than Fermilab’s Tevatron. It’s so powerful it could also produce particles of dark matter, the mysterious stuff whose gravity holds the galaxies together, or even miniature black holes.
Far from being adepts on the verge of leading us into sovereign cosmic citizenry, some believe that when the Nimrods start spraying particles in their ring at CERN it’ll unleash a shit storm of problems, some of them cosmic in scale. That’s why they’re not informing the public about the possible cataclysmic downside of their great work. Remember the tsunami that swallowed South Asia? Try a black hole swallowing Geneva!
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:17 pm
Mic, I said way back on a forum about this CERN thing and if they started playing with it it would cause a hell of a lot of problems for everything and everyone.
Maybe it's this and its repercussions that will bring on what we cannot handle, I don't know.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:22 pm
Biggles wrote:
Mic, I said way back on a forum about this CERN thing and if they started playing with it it would cause a hell of a lot of problems for everything and everyone.
Maybe it's this and its repercussions that will bring on what we cannot handle, I don't know.
I don't know either but I am not getting the warm and fuzzy feeling over this. Start fooling around with science and who knows what might happen.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:10 pm
micjer wrote:
I agree Soma.
Good call Lightning. I see what you are referring to. It is very similar isn't it.
Mic that picture was from Astralwalker's thread "Unknown Form of Energy Heading Our Way". I'm sure you are familiar with that thread, I've bee rereading it for other reasons when I stumbled upon that photo and it clicked.
Here's a thought: What if it's not a projection, the lame missle explanation, an accidental side effect of CERN, but the collection of energy and resulting visiual phenomena from being tapped by something underground behind that hill?
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:43 am
Nice collection of photos off of the net.
At 403 there is one that looks like a rocket that may have been involved.
Interesting crop circle near the end.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:53 am
Another good catch, that crop circle came to mind when I saw that photo. I'm hoping this isn't another distraction and awaiting the next unusual sky sighting.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:25 am
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:43 am
i've got several thoughts on this..
and L i agree..we need to know what is on the ground in the location where that beam was.. underground bases?...undersea bases?..or maybe a lazer strobe?
some thoughts are spirals go to the primative stories of returning gods also go to the primitive could this be a pre-set beam for directing them back? (i'm leaning towards this one because of the location - north - under ice)
my inclination is to stay as simplistic as possible and not over dramatize it
and just silliness..was it a big drain and was it going clockwise or counter clockwise
in all of this i somehow feel good...what about the rest of you..how does it affect you mentally/emotionaly and what does that tell you..what is your gut saying to you i'm kinda joyous about it
ok.. i went back and watched M's vid and read L's link and maybe something tried to get thur a protective energy field and this was the result the smokey trail and the spiral re-verb ever throw things and an electric fence?..i'm sure it would be way more impressive if something hit a protective energy field..maybe they were testing their own defences?
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:32 am
It would take a damn long time to go through all the Papers on HAARP that are accesible to the public, but from the few I have read and from what a CEO of a defence logistics contractor told me in Sept (He told me over horizon radar has more use's than being a Radar in quite a serious affirmitive manner after I posed the question of whether it does have other uses)
It makes one wonder if this is all a smoke screen to take attention off Obama whilst he recieved his Nobel Peace Prize.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:34 am
You bring up some good points sky. I've been looking to see if anyone who witnessed this event talked about their gut feelings or noticed being effected by unusual energy. I haven't seen any personal accounts posted yet.
My understanding of spirals is that clockwise spirals manifest and counterclockwise dissapate. This goes back to ancient beliefs and personally it fits for me.
The diagram I posted depicts a gamma ray and that blue light ray sure looks like all the picutres I've seen posted of one whether natural cause or not.
I'm not really joyous about it more suspcious until we find out more about it. The first thoughts that popped into my head when I read the initial posting of this event was of the ancient technology that supposedly still exists on this planet for our protection,but who knows.
I love a mystery and this is surely one.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:56 am
I have found what I think is the smoking gun.....thanks to Richard Hoagland
Anybody know where the Haarp facility is located in northern europe?
Yep you guessed it....
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Is it another "coincidence" that, just over the hill from Tromso, lies a high-tech Norwegian "HAARP antenna farm" -- the EISCAT Ramfjordmoen facility (below) -- specifically designed to broadcast powerful beams of microwave energy high into space ... thereby also creating blatant HD/torsion side-effects in the Earth's highly-electrified upper "plasma" atmosphere (ionosphere)? The facility is officially supported by Norway, Sweden, Finland, Japan ... China ... the United Kingdom ... and Germany.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:57 am
If we get red spiral beams sometime in the near future then I am obligated to learn RV
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:01 am
Millitary executed well and created a distraction for Obama
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Does Obama know that? I think not
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:03 am
Good picture, not surprised in the least. I posted an old documentary on HAARP somewhere on this board which talks about it's weapon capabilities and possible uses.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:08 am
Makes you wonder if they didn't take out the rocket as a demonstration to Obama.
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:10 am
micjer wrote:
Makes you wonder if they didn't take out the rocket as a demonstration to Obama.
Indeed
I did think that as when you start reading over atmos tests and Radar they sort of go hand in hand to some degree
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:12 am
But geez thats another thread I need to work on regarding Atmos tests in OZ and Lithium
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:20 am
I see the beginning of another TV series....CSI Australia.....
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:33 am
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:51 am
micjer wrote:
I see the beginning of another TV series....CSI Australia.....
I'm of the thought that there is a shitload of stuff going on in OZ which the populace don't take much notice of as they are too busy watching USA, but thats goes for the whole blue marble really as everyone is watching the DOW rather than what happens under their noses
This has been a great ride to say the least
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Subject: Re: spiral blue light display hovers above Norway Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:22 pm
Have a look at these three haarp sites. Makes a perfect triangle. Shows that they are connected.