Tens of thousands of people are facing a second catastrophe tonight as they struggled for survival on the devastated island of Haiti.
With no food, no water and no shelter, aid agencies were in a desperate race against time to save the victims of the earthquake Witnesses described gutters running with blood and children sleeping among heaps of dead bodies after becoming separated from their parents.
HAARP ???? or PROPHECY ????
sky otter Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:01 pm
HAARP ???? or PROPHECY ????
v v v v Earthquake
perhaps from other man made crap....
prophecy??? .. atlantis rising?????
too much underground stuff elsewhere?
what's happening to south america and the ufo sightings???
tons of questions
not current answers...
WineHippie Contributor
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:14 am
"On Sunday, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush mounted the corporate media propaganda platform and complained about the politicization of the Haitian relief effort.
...
Now we have to stomach these two NWO goons parading across our television screens and watch as they paint themselves as saviors. Clinton and Bush are the twin faces of evil and represent the very embodiment of mass murder, starvation, and untold suffering inflicted on the weak and helpless by their masters on Wall Street.
The corporate media characterizes Haiti as a “failed state.” It is a failure thanks to the banksters and their schemes to loot and pillage not only Haiti, but the entire world.
But you won’t hear that on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News."
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:01 am
W says do think about sending clothes and blankets...JUST SEND CASH.
My immediate thought was that way the PTW can deduct off their "administration fees" !
We have to ask what does the US gain by this tragedy? Whether it is haarp or not, we need to follow the money and watch for reasons this happened.
I watched the Ric Clay interview from Red Ice Productions last night. It is very good btw.
The weird thing is there is a connection to Port au Prince and Prince William and the 2012 olympics.
sky otter Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:47 am
M says we need to watch for reasons this happened.
Do you think this may be a test..?
to see who gives from the heart regardless?
or
maybe a test of how a island nation with nothing and in trouble is aided or not in changing/advancing ?
or maybe a little preview of us as a whole in the next big boom?
what have you done.. sent money sent good thoughts criticized others hummmmmmmmmmmm just sayin
Lightning222 Guest
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:54 am
Although I am horrified by the devestation and suffering currently going on in Haiti, I find it odd how the world is blaming each other for the poor response and services reaching the people yet no one seem to be horrified at how most of these people lived before this tragedy.
Somamech Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:53 am
Lightning222 wrote:
Although I am horrified by the devestation and suffering currently going on in Haiti, I find it odd how the world is blaming each other for the poor response and services reaching the people yet no one seem to be horrified at how most of these people lived before this tragedy.
Yep mate its all sad :(:(:(
WineHippie Contributor
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:30 am
message from Cynthia McKinney:
this is closing paragraphs... see link for entire message
"While the tears of the people of Haiti swell in my own eyes, and I remember their tremendous capacity for love, my broken heart and wet eyes don't dampen my ability to understand the grave danger that now faces my friends in Haiti.
I shudder to think that the "rollback" policies believed in by some foreign policy advisors to President Obama could use a prolonged U.S. military presence in Haiti as a springboard for rollback of areas in Latin America that have liberated themselves from U.S. neo-colonial domination. I would hate to think that this would even be attempted under the Presidency of Barack Obama. All of us must have our eyes wide open on Haiti and other parts of the world now dripping in blood as a result of the relentless onward march of the U.S. military machine.
So, on this remembrance of the birth of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., I note that it was the U.S. government's own illegal Operation Lantern Spike that snuffed out the promise and light of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Every plane of humanitarian assistance that is turned away by the U.S. military (so far from CARICOM, the Caribbean Community, Médecins Sans Frontieres, Brazil, France, Italy, and even the U.S. Red Cross)--as was done in the wake of Hurricane Katrina--and the expected arrival on this very day of up to 10,000 U.S. troops, are lasting reminders of the existential threat that now looms over the valiant, proud people and the Republic of Haiti."
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:56 am
WineHippie wrote:
message from Cynthia McKinney:
this is closing paragraphs... see link for entire message
"While the tears of the people of Haiti swell in my own eyes, and I remember their tremendous capacity for love, my broken heart and wet eyes don't dampen my ability to understand the grave danger that now faces my friends in Haiti.
I shudder to think that the "rollback" policies believed in by some foreign policy advisors to President Obama could use a prolonged U.S. military presence in Haiti as a springboard for rollback of areas in Latin America that have liberated themselves from U.S. neo-colonial domination. I would hate to think that this would even be attempted under the Presidency of Barack Obama. All of us must have our eyes wide open on Haiti and other parts of the world now dripping in blood as a result of the relentless onward march of the U.S. military machine.
So, on this remembrance of the birth of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., I note that it was the U.S. government's own illegal Operation Lantern Spike that snuffed out the promise and light of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Every plane of humanitarian assistance that is turned away by the U.S. military (so far from CARICOM, the Caribbean Community, Médecins Sans Frontieres, Brazil, France, Italy, and even the U.S. Red Cross)--as was done in the wake of Hurricane Katrina--and the expected arrival on this very day of up to 10,000 U.S. troops, are lasting reminders of the existential threat that now looms over the valiant, proud people and the Republic of Haiti."
But in saying so I have spent time in Indonesia with a Anthropologist who saw this style of events happen.
The people remained strong for most part ..something to be happy about I guess amongst all the sadness of a mass grave :)
Somamech Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:01 am
Sorry WH, my above comment was not meant to sound so dark... How can one report the sadness.
There must be so many storys of people banding together at the same time over there. No doubt there's more than a sad story, but where are all the story's of people getting on with their lives and making do with what they have ?
I am sure they are even in what are fucked up dire circumstances.
Still its a fucking sad situation for all those people losing loved ones in such an abrupt way :(:(:(
WineHippie Contributor
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:57 pm
if this event was natural, it is sad to think of the ordinary person being caught in panic and then seeing body parts protruding from under collapsed things and worrying about survival, family, friends - a moment in time which changes a path forever *** if this is another in a series of scripted catastrophes, to make money for some, to distract from even more sinister scenarios, to experiment with weather modification, scalar weaponry, zapping frequencies - all in complete disregard for the well-being of every human/person/soul/frequency involved, it is very sad to think of this mindset/behavior *** very sad, indeed
Reunite Moderator
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:57 pm
sky otter wrote:
M says we need to watch for reasons this happened.
Do you think this may be a test..?
to see who gives from the heart regardless?
or
maybe a test of how a island nation with nothing and in trouble is aided or not in changing/advancing ?
or maybe a little preview of us as a whole in the next big boom?
what have you done.. sent money sent good thoughts criticized others hummmmmmmmmmmm just sayin
Few questions to ponder there.
I've done my best by sending as much positive and protection energy I have. I've also made a donation. I definitely will never send any donations to the Red Cross as they pocket such a large percentage. The donation appeal I sent to claims 100 per cent of funds will be committed to delivering aid and support to the Haitian people, still don't know for certain but it feels better on the conscience.
We will never know if it was naturally occurring or HAARP induced but one thing that ticks me off is seeing the U.S military waving their big guns and Hilary Clinton posing as peace keepers already in Haiti. I understand it's turn to archany with all the looters and some order must be restored however I just hope this isn't a new tactic to occupy a country.
So I guess I've done all 3 things you asked sky, send positive thoughts, money and criticized others.
'I am a human becoming, help me become' George Green
ryuken Member
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Subject: 12 or 14 January 2010 Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:52 pm
Evasius (from ATS), seems to have gotten the dates wrong, (s)he says both the earthquake and sunspot occurred on 12 January 2010. Or am I mistaken?
Reunite Moderator
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:38 pm
Wow ryuken I never would of linked sunspot activity to the quake. Here is the 1040's activity -
Sunspot 1040 was named on the 9th of Jan from the old 1035.
Jan 10 it was 4 times the size of earth.
Jan 12 - ACTIVE SUNSPOT: "Sunspot 1040 is still growing. During the past two days it has doubled in size--and then doubled again--to produce an active region with more than 25 dark cores and a tangled magnetic field".
Jan 14 it had grown to 10 times wider than earth! Dennis Simmons sends the image from Brisbane, Australia, where a short spell of exceptionally steady air this morning allowed him to capture the sunspot with superb clarity. "After the software had processed my data, I was left gasping, astonished by what the seeing had allowed me to witness. This is far and away my best-ever high-resolution image of a sunspot."
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:02 pm
well i have heard of the solar flares being connected to volcanos..so why not eathquakes? and i know a few folks who have phsyical connections also... if you keep track you may be surprized to know you body is a magnometer (sp)
R.. you are a kind and thoughtful soul
i think i meant that it isn't the action but our reaction to any given thing that matters
where our thoughts go..what follows...? yeah we all know how it works
hey Ryuken welcome to this nice little place another voice is always a good thing
ryuken Member
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Subject: extra gravitational pull from bodies in space Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:37 pm
Reunite, I think what we have here is more credible evidence than Al Gore's ever has had!
Haitians flee in fear as big aftershock hits "The magnitude-5.9 jolt matched the strongest of the aftershocks that have followed the huge quake of Jan. 12 that devastated Haiti's capital." > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cb_haiti_earthquake
If Planet X is in fact real, we may have problems since another body will be exerting a gravitational pull on the earth's surface. If Planet X is not real, the Galactic Alignment may have the a similar gravitational pull. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon#Galactic_alignment
I believe any extra gravitational pull on the earth's surface, from the sun/moon/planet x/a galactic alignment, there will be harsh implications. Has anyone read this book? I haven't, but I have listened to the author speak. > http://www.lawrenceejoseph.com/apocalypse2012.html
Time will tell
Reunite Moderator
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:44 pm
So true ryuken, Great links. Al Gore must push the carbon tax agenda.
The Sunspot activity graphs are identical to the temperature anonymities - ha, go figure.
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Subject: It's a collective effort, I think...? Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:16 am
It was not without your help, Reunite, so thanks
micjer Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:00 pm
Why Is The US Military Occupying Four Airports In Haiti?
The United States is now operating at four airports to ferry aid and relief supplies to quake-devastated Haiti, a senior US military commander said Thursday.
In addition to the Caribbean nation’s main port of entry, Port-au-Prince airport, US forces were also now at work at airports in the coastal city of Jacmel.
They were also operating in the neighboring Dominican Republic at San Isidro and Barahona, US Southern Command chief General Douglas Fraser said.
Around 11,000 US military personnel are currently controlling the operations both on the ground and offshore aboard US Navy and Coast Guard vessels, and another 4,000 US troops are expected to arrive in the coming days.
The Americans’ controlling of the aid operations has raised tensions with some countries. Bolivia and Venezuela have criticized its heavy presence and France earlier expressed annoyance after aid planes were delayed from landing.
French Secretary of State for Cooperation Alain Joyandet called on the United Nations to clarify the US role in Haiti, saying the priority was “helping Haiti, not occupying Haiti.”
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:03 pm
Scientists Daniel and Ginette Mathurin indicate that under Haitian soil is rich in oil and fuel fossible which were collected by Haitian and foreign experts. "We have identified 20 sites Oil, launches Daniel Mathurin stating that 5 of them are considered very important by practitioners and policies.
Haiti is full of oil say Daniel and Ginette Mathurin
The Central Plateau, including the region of Thomond, the plain of the cul-de-sac and the bay of Port-au-Prince are filled with oil, he said, adding that Haiti's oil reserves are larger than those of Venezuela . An Olympic pool compared to a glass of water that is the comparison to show the importance of oil Haitian compared to those of Venezuela, "he explains.
Daniel Mathurin reveals that investigations of several previous governments have allowed to verify the existence of these large deposits of oil. It reminds a document of Lavalas party to power in 2004, had specified the number of sites in Haiti hydrocarbons.
According to Daniel et Ginette Mathurin, the lake region, with cities like Thomazeau and Cornillon, contains large deposits of oil.
Asked about the non-exploitation of these sites, Ginette Mathurin said that these deposits are declared strategic reserves of the United States of America. While stating his incomprehension of such a situation, it reminds that the Caribbean is considered the backyard of the United States.
A Royal Navy flotilla that might have provided relief in the first hours after the Haitian earthquake was withdrawn weeks before the disaster because of budget constraints, the Ministry of Defence said last night.
Naval sources told The Times that the unpublicised cut marked the first time that the Royal Navy has had a significant gap in cover in the Caribbean since the 17th century.
The force, which usually includes a Royal Fleet Auxiliary vessel and a frigate, is deployed in Caribbean waters to provide support to British overseas territories, particularly during the May-December hurricane season, and to support Britain’s counter-narcotics role in the region.
Ok just by chance or did somebody know something?
micjer Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:09 pm
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:54 pm
and now.... another piece of the puzzle:
"According to a document published by WHO called "Public health risk assessment and interventions: Earthquake: Haiti", the UN health agency is strongly recommending that people in Haiti receive vaccinations against tetanus, measles, diphtheria, polio and pertussis in spite of the controversy surrounding these vaccines."
"OVERVIEW
The public health risk assessment for Haiti is to provide health professionals in United Nations agencies, nongovernmental organizations, donor agencies and local authorities currently working with populations affected by the post-earthquake emergency, with up-to-date technical guidance on the major public health threats faced by the earthquake-affected population. Public health threats represent a significant challenge to those providing health-care services in this evolving situation. It is hoped that this risk assessment will facilitate the coordination of activities between all agencies working among the populations currently affected by the crisis."
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Subject: Re: Haiti earthquake: No food, no water... Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:00 pm
to add "another piece of the puzzle", as stated by WineHippie, you should browse over their history:
" the European navigator Christopher Columbus happened upon a large island in the region of the western Atlantic Ocean that later came to be known as the Caribbean Sea" > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Haiti
" In 1492, this group is alleged to have provided the navigators for Christopher Columbus' journey, and the Order's cross was featured prominently on the sails of his ships, however there is no actual evidence to support this." > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_legends