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+3sky otter micjer savannahskye 7 posters | Author | Message |
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savannahskye Member
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| Subject: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:33 pm | |
| So...Your Friend Is a Witch?
A Bare Bones Guide to Understanding Pagans and Witches –
Consider that you're spending time with a good friend over a nice meal, some good wine, and friendly conversation. Your friend tells you that she is Pagan. As a matter of fact, she says, she's a practising Witch. What does this mean to you? What's the first thing that goes through your mind? It's likely that on at least some level, you found the idea of someone in this day and age being a "Witch" to be laughable. It's very possible that you conjured the image in your mind of her dressed all in black, riding a broom through the night sky – like some Halloween cartoon.
It is also likely that some part of you was at least a little frightened by the word. As if, suddenly, this person whom you have trusted in your home, in your life, and with your friendship, has become some force of darkness. In truth all your friend has done is shared with you something which shouldn't have to be a secret. Your friend has trusted you with information about her faith, her spirituality. If your friend were Baptist, would the announcement that she followed that path cause you any discomfort? Not likely. In the simplest of terms, your newly found (no matter how fleeting) doubt about your friend is the result of a centuries long media assault on the Pagan way of life. As you're gathering your thoughts on this newly discovered facet of your friend, and wondering how it affects you and how you feel about her, try to keep an open mind. And try to keep in mind that your friend has trusted you with something very dear, and traditionally very dangerous. The truth about who she is. Remember, for centuries, Witches have been burned, and hanged for nothing more than their faith.
So, What Does It All Mean?
Let's start at the beginning. Paganism is not a single religion. It is an umbrella term generally used to cover all those religions, which are not considered to be "main world religions", i.e. Christianity, Judaism and Islam. A person who follows one of the "other" faiths is considered to be a Pagan. Many Witches, and other Neo-Pagans simply identify themselves as "Pagan" in order to simplify the conversation when talking with someone (like, perhaps you) who may or may not be familiar with the different belief systems. This, rather unintentionally, often makes it sound as though "Paganism" is a religion – as opposed to a collection of religions. Just for the record, Neo-Paganism is not the same as the "New Age" movement. Generally, Pagans are involved in a distinctive religion. The New Age movement draws its spirituality from varied sources, as almost a supplement to the religion already practised by that person.
A What? A Witch?
A Witch is a practitioner of a nature-based, nature-revering or "folk" belief system. Witches believe that our planet should be revered, and respected, as the manifestation of Deity. Not all Witches follow the same belief system. There are many different belief systems, only some of which will be discussed here – for the sake of brevity. Some Witches practice what is often referred to as the "Old Religion". This system is rooted in beliefs, which pre-date the monotheistic belief systems, and it follows the agricultural seasonal cycles. The Earth is a living thing and therefore a gift, for us, from the God and Goddess. Many Witches believe in a polytheistic deity structure usually based upon the local gods and goddesses of their area of origin. Most Witches feel that a monotheistic belief structure is only half of the whole. If based upon only one all-powerful male God, and often presided over by only male clergy, it is unbalanced and only half-effective. Worship, for Witches, is centred on both the male and female personifications of Deity. The most widely known sects of witchcraft are Wicca and Druidism. "Wiccan" is often used, by the misinformed, as a description for all Witches. This tendency is likely due to the increased exposure of Wicca, thanks to many movies and TV shows of recent years. All Wiccans are Witches, but not all Witches are Wiccan. Think of it this way – All Baptists are Christians, but not all Christians are Baptist.
Make sense now?
So, you're sitting at the table, listening to your friend, and wondering what this is supposed to mean for you? How does this affect your friendship? Is she trying to recruit you into her cult? Is she going to try to make you participate in some scary rituals? Is she going to have to leave your birthday party early because it's a full moon, and she's "gotta fly"? Is there some room in her home, where she keeps snakes and shrunken heads, and all manner of frightening and evil accoutrements? Does she worship the devil? Make sacrifices? Curse those who make her angry?
Chances are that your friend told you this, because she trusts you and trusts your friendship to be strong enough to handle something out of the ordinary. She will likely have things in her home, which you may not understand – although you may never see them, even when they're in plain sight. Your friend wants to be able to welcome you into her home, without the worry that you'll see something "odd" and make a snap judgement based on misinformation. Your best source for information, when dealing with anything surprising or confusing, as it relates to your friend, is to go straight to her. If you see something in her home that you simply don't understand, particularly if it has some negative connotation for you, ask your friend. She has shared her path with you, and as such, has invited you to ask her questions about anything you don't understand.
There's a good chance that she uses herbs, incense, and oils to express her faith – and that the biggest danger from that is that she may set off her smoke detector!
Witches do not "recruit" new members. They revere their faith as a very personal choice, and a personal path. Witches also believe that no one path is right for everyone, and that everyone's path, be it Christian, Wiccan, Hindu, etc., is a valid path. You should know that, as a Witch, your friend does not believe in the Devil. There is no "Lord of Evil" in her faith, lurking around every corner, waiting to trick a human into relenting their soul through some list of sins. She does not worship something in which she does not believe…so please put the devil-worship scenario to rest. Your friend believes in the Earth…the changing of the seasons…and the cycles of Life. There is good and bad in most things, and we – as people – know the difference. Witches believe that we, as humans, are responsible for our own actions. When we do something wrong, and something happens to us, we must accept the blame and try to learn the lessons being handed to us by the universe. When we have done right, and something good happens, we are entitled to pat ourselves on the back. And there are lessons to learn from the good things, as well.
Witches live by many rules, but perhaps the most concise and encompassing rule is – 'And it harm none, do what ye will'. Your friend is, in a sense, prohibited from "cursing" someone who has made her angry. Witches live by the rules of Karma – the law of threefold return. Whatever we do comes back to us threefold. If your friend were to wish someone ill, she would be in line for a threefold return on those ill wishes. This is something taken very seriously by a Witch. Bear in mind that the good wishes are also returned threefold. So, it's very possible that your friend just happens to be a fairly positive person, who wishes the best for most people. Your friend is also prohibited from making blood sacrifices. Quite obviously, that goes against the "harm none" principle. Now, before we go any further, take a good look at your friend and remember – NOT all Witches are old hags, riding around on broomsticks.
Some of them are bright, attractive, outgoing people!
So, What's Different Now?
Now that your friend has told you about her faith, what's different now? Nothing. Chances are, that if you have an open mind, and really think about it, you'll see that nothing has changed. Your friend has simply put a label on some of the things that likely drew you to her, from the beginning. She is telling you that she is an independent thinker, and a bit of a free spirit. She holds nature in a very high regard.
She is probably the friend who reminds you to stop occasionally and smell the flowers!
So, ask your friend questions, look into her faith; research the things you don't understand. And embrace the knowledge that your friend trusts you with such a wonderful gift. | |
| | | micjer Senior Member
Number of posts : 5325 Age : 63 Location : canada Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:21 pm | |
| Thanks for sharing this SS. This answers a lot for me. From what you have said I think I would prefer my friend to tell me that they are a witch over being Baptist! Which is truly the satanic religion when you look a the amount of people murdered over the years because they did not go along with the christian doctrine. I am sure that Jesus would not have agreed with the persucutions that have taken place over the last 2000 years. So if my friend were to tell me that they were a witch, I would welcome them and have many questions. | |
| | | sky otter Senior Member
Number of posts : 4389 Registration date : 2009-02-01
| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:57 pm | |
| Hi ss great info and all i have been ask many times if i was a witch and my answers is not this lifetime i got to the womongathing with a reiki friend in '99 and wow..it was mindblowing one of the very best 4 day retreats i have taken if anyone is interested the next one is in june..link: www.womongathering.com | |
| | | Reunite Moderator
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| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:39 pm | |
| Nice introduction.
I for one would welcome a witch for a friend as open minded as we all are on this board. | |
| | | WineHippie Contributor
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| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:48 pm | |
| i am so glad you are here, speaking...
as a matter of fact, a lot of what you explain sounds similar to the indigenous peoples' beliefs, i.e., respect and honor for mother earth, the seasons, burning sage in ceremonies and rituals, personal paths, cycles of life, etc
so thank you for turning on the light...
respectfully and open mindedly, me | |
| | | stephen Podliska Member
Number of posts : 596 Location : "this is very important" Humor : YES and then some! Registration date : 2009-02-23
| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:12 pm | |
| savannahskye...
You have a beautiful style of writing and GREAT GREAT insight into the "suttleties" and "nuances" of having a friend as a witch!
And I love the reference/act-knowledgement of "Whatever we do comes back to us".... ABSOLUTELY!!
AND KNOW ..... I TOO LOVE MAJIC and WITCHCRAFT .... A LIKE!!
.... AND ..... "I SEE SUCH" ...... "AS EXTENSIONS OF OUR SELF".....
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4/with what little I have studdied and PLAYED with ....."thus far"....
I too.... have ALSO ... VALIDATED & PROVEN (for my SELF).... .... THAT MAJIC/WITCHCRAFT CAN BE OF GOOD MANIFESTATION USE!!!
Thanks to my daughter (sharing with me her Witchcraft interersts) and my/the CRYSTAL CONNECTIONS (related to Manifestation and Dream/Consciousness expansion) that I have/had ALREADY found to be of "good such use".... I was thus OPENED UP to exploring Witchcraft, Wicca, Black Majic, Sex Majic and Vudoo, and "the like".....
AND... for what I experienced..... as I became more and more familure with some of the "these" explorations.......
... "I began to SEE more and more of these "OCCULTISH" practices ... ALSO IN USE ... in "CHRISTIAN", JEWISH, Vodoo, and Myan practices..... yet with "little attention" placed upon "why these such SYMBOLS and PRACTICES were/are being used......
AND... although I have joined and played in and will continue to "jump into" any ISM, PHILOSOPHY, or BELIEF PRACTICE .... so as to "better understand such" from a FIRST HAND perspective .......
Some times in my doing so, "this"... has brought me some very interesting consequences.......
As per/was the case of my investigation of BLACK MAJIC: While investigating BACK MAJIC, my wife and I were "more often than not" ... going to a kind of "LAW of ATTRACTION/Religious Science" based church (which had both "things I loved and "things which I .... gave no attention to" in it)......
.....and then, as I started seeing so many of the BLACK MAJIC practices that were ALSO found in the SYMBOLOGY and PRACTICE of the CATHOLIC masses....
... I then jumped back into going to CATHOLIC masses again (out of such appreciation for BLACK MAJIC)...... (where I can and do enjoy "molesting" ALL such words, within the mass, to better fit my/the understadings and directions that I wish to exprience and create).....
THUS... IT WAS ... BLACK MAJIC... that pushed me BACK ... into GOING TO CATHOLIC masses again.... (which was/is my wife's preference to do so)....
PLUS.. I like to MAKE USE OF & DRINK the "HOLLY WATER" (it gives me a buzz).....
AND ALSO CONNECT with ALL OBJECTS in the CHURCH, especially the "worshiped" ONEs...
4/with .... for some reason?? .. over the last year I have become sensitive "enough" to notice/become aware of the "energy" of these objects in a vibrational/pulsation "sort of way" to KNOW/REALIZE and or BELIEVE (as per my perceptions).....
..... that "WHAT WE GIVE ENERGY TO" .....
....... "CAN BE MADE USE OF" ...
...... "IN MANY WAYS".... "WITH NO SUCH LIMITS KNOWN OF SUCH".....
AND... a "favorite" MAJIC BOOK ... which still leaves "a great deal left out" on many of the ADDITIONAL ways to CREATE MAJIC SPELLS.... & is still the best "IDEA BOOK" for such that I have come across yet for such "creative play":
"YOUR BOOK of SHADOWS, How to Write Your Own Magical Spells" by Patricia Telesco
Plus, with in the book, what I like the most about one of her suggestions (if anyone ever is to pursue such majical interests)...... THIS IS GOOD ADVICE.....
She suggests ASKING ANY and ALL such "SPELL MAKERS"..
...... TO SHARE THIER MOST POWERFUL SPELLS .....
.... (which for me) ..... says and means....... A WHOLE LOT!!!
FOR... WHY NOT MAKE USE OF ..... other such "POWERFUL SPELLS" .... IN ADDITION TO .....ONE's OWN CREATIONS?????
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Anywho....
GREAT SUBJECT "MATTER" to discuss/bring up!!!
IN APPRECIATION WITH AND TO ....
... ALL FELLOW KNOWN AND UN-KNOWN WITCHES .... ALIKE!!!
& PLEASE SAY HELLO to your friend from ALL OF US!!!
..... AND ... if possible ASK HER ..... WHAT HER MOST POWERFUL SPELL IS???
Best wishes,
Steve | |
| | | LongHunter Member
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| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:39 pm | |
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| | | savannahskye Member
Number of posts : 20 Registration date : 2009-04-17
| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:21 am | |
| - stephen Podliska wrote:
She suggests ASKING ANY and ALL such "SPELL MAKERS"..
...... TO SHARE THIER MOST POWERFUL SPELLS .....
Mine was a healing spell, still is I use it regularly on humans and animals
It involves a candle I call my 'miracle candle' and lots of healing energy channelled from the Universe, directed at the recipient... I no longer do grand Ceremonial Rituals, gentle whispers and thoughts seem to have taken over right now (This isnt to say I wouldn't use them, I certainly would, I use what I need at the time, be it Chaos, Ceremony, Traditional or Dark Magick...anythin that helps....)
It may not completely cure, but feedback tells me it boosts the recipient when they need it...
The piece above isnt my own, I found it floating around cyber space, it is as far as I know anonymous... Suited my needs at the time tho... Glad you enjoyed.... | |
| | | WineHippie Contributor
Number of posts : 4229 Age : 71 Location : being Humor : my sides hurt ... Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:44 am | |
| savannah, you had posted regarding setting up altar with symbols for feminine/masculine etc
i cannot find
would it be too much of an imposition to ask you to post again? perhaps you have it and could paste/copy?
if not, that's cool, i'll just make something up....
many thanks, in advance - me | |
| | | savannahskye Member
Number of posts : 20 Registration date : 2009-04-17
| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:14 pm | |
| The Alter Altar's are a symbol of our worship. They hold great value on all plains: physical, mental, and spiritual. An altar is part of the space between the worlds that you create, and where you do magickal works. It is apart from the mundane, every day life of your household. An altar (at its most basic) is a flat surface for performing ritual. It can be a table, a flat rock, a flat tree stump, or an intricate carved marble altar.
You will probably collect a lot of "stuff" over the course of your Magickal career, but not all of it will necessarily have a place on the altar. Keep in mind that the altar is a working space and, as such, should allow you enough room to work. If you put everything you've ever purchased onto the altar, you won't have enough room to work your magick! Magick is intent, and the Universe isn't concerned with how much "stuff" you have, or how expensive it was. Anything you want to add on top of the basics is perfectly fine, of course, as long as you allow yourself enough room on the altar to work. The altar is your space and you should personalize it. You want the things you use to be items you feel comfortable with. I recently found out that it helps to sometimes carry the item(s) around with you until you get used to its energy (after cleansing, of course).
Altar Implements
Representation of Air on the Eastern side of the Altar. Some of the most basic/traditional representations of Air include a bell, a small drum (anything that makes sound), a wand, or feathers.
Representation of Fire on the Southern side of the Altar. Representations of Fire can include a candle, a light, or blade. If your altar is large enough, your ritual knife belongs here; if not, at the nearest edge. If your altar is on a shelf or mantel, brackets can be fixed to the wall above to hold your athame, which can be a convenient alternative.
Representation of Water on the Western side of the Altar. Anything glass or crystal can be used to represent Water. I've seen Water represented as a Chalice or Cup filled with fresh spring or rain water, mirrors, and shells. Some say if a candle is placed on this side of the Altar it should be held by a glass or crystal candlestick.
Representation of Earth on the Northern side of the Altar. Representation of earth can be a small bowl or cauldron filled with earth or salt. Living plants to represent earth can also be used, and add a nice touch of liveliness to your Altar.
Representation of the God, or Male aspect. A statue or something representing the God should be placed at the top of your altar i.e. the edge of the altar farthest from you. Most women feel comfortable placing the God to the left of Centre, whereas men usually place the God to the right of Centre. Suitable statues might include a stag or an image of the Green Man.
Representation of the Goddess, or Female aspect. A statue or something representing the Goddess should be placed at the top of your altar next to the God. If you have placed your God to the left, your Goddess belongs to the right, and vice versa. Suitable representations of the Goddess include a female statue of any sort, or an animal identified with a Goddess or femininity.
There are certain considerations that you must take into account when deciding where to place your altar. If possible it should be in a space where it can remain undisturbed. If you leave your altar set up all the time, and you do not live alone, you must let your house mates know that the items on your altar are not objects of curiosity or stage props, and should not be handled. Ideally, no one should touch your ritual tools except you. Are you 'out of the broom closet' as a witch to your friends and family? If so, it's presence won't bring about difficult questions when your parents, who "never come over", decide to stop by.
Some altars remain set up at all times, reminding the witch of the place that magick has in his or her life all the time. However, setting up and taking down the altar with each working can be very useful. Setting up the altar prepares you for the magick you're about to work, and focuses your mind and energy on the task at hand. When taking down the altar, you are returning to ordinary life, and it can ground you in the present (and prevent your "stuff" from getting dusty).
A smaller version of an altar can be made for travelling. One consideration to take into account when having a travelling Altar is that blades cannot be carried in many public places in most Western countries, and most airlines forbid sharp objects to be carried on board. In instances such as these, a wand is a much more practical alternative.
Finally, every altar is a reflection of the person who uses it. Don't be afraid to decorate it with whatever makes you feel more comfortable and closer to the divine. And always, always take good care of it.
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| | | stephen Podliska Member
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| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:42 pm | |
| BEAUTIFUL STUFF!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING IT SAVANNAHSKY!! LOVE IT!! | |
| | | WineHippie Contributor
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| Subject: Re: So...Your Friend Is a Witch? Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:05 pm | |
| savannah skye *~*
i'm getting goosebumpy reading this again...
thank you so much for posting and THIS time i will save offline, as reminder and reference
if anyone else is amenable to the idea, and creates their own altar, what would you think of posting a picture of it here ?
i know i would like to share mine as well as see others'...... | |
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