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PostSubject: Re: Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek   Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 29, 2009 2:51 pm

bilderburger w/cheese wrote:



- we need to get together, unify, and cooperate.
- we need to honor our planet
- there is a window around 2012 where things take place; its not just one set date
- there are good things happening despite the negativity going around
- there could be a pole shift in the future, and there certainly was one in the recent past
- we win and take back the planet
- the PTB were and still are attempting to hold back mankind, but will not be able to do so
hi ya welcome bilderburger w/cheese ......i agree with all of these points.......... i didn´t watch the video yet so i can´t coment on it.......
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Bilderburger w/cheese,

Love your name by the way. LOL. I agree about getting together, but I personally draw the line at holding hands with the nephilim or any other evil.

I am of Cherokee heritage mixed with European and nowhere in my tribes history is there any stories of the nephilim and I am thankful for that.


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PostSubject: Re: Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek   Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Jan 30, 2009 1:50 pm

hi zuni and gabe. pleasure to officially meet you both, although im sure ive seen you both on avalon (and more recently on AV). : )

i suppose if i see 2 or 3 different video interviews that back up drunvalos message, i will reconsider some of his more controversial/conflicting claims. until then, we should make it a mantra to take the stuff that resonates with us and toss the rest.
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http://www.drunvalo.net/
Drunvalo' s website


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PostSubject: Re: Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek   Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 31, 2009 1:59 am

micjer thanks for the link. I went there and read his biography. He sounds like an interesting guy.
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Gabriel wrote:
micjer thanks for the link. I went there and read his biography. He sounds like an interesting guy.

Gabriel, watch a video, too, cuz you can get a better
feeling for the person Drunvalo is being.........
i feel like a groupie when i think of how much i would
like to meet him at the AZ gathering...
and i am determined to sit at a coffeeshop in Pahrump
to see if i can feel Duncan O'Finian, too

i love those guys
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Hello winehippie,

I don't have anything against the guy sis, I am only going by what I heard him say about the Nephilim on a video he made, being our ancestors or fathers and we need to invite them back.

I just don't agree with that. That's all. I don't dislike the guy. Have fun sis on your travels.



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I have listened to the video again and he says that it is the hopi that believe their ancestors are Nephilim and the Sirians.
Actually when you read the book of Genesis 6 , it talks about the daughters of men being "with" the giants (Nephilim). So I guess whether we like it or not , the hopi are probably correct. That is if you believe the bible.


Also for anyone following the hollow earth discussion. Admiral Byrd said he flew beyond the north pole to a land where there was giants.

Now read this verse written in Genesis 6.4

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that"

Key word here is IN the earth, not on the earth. Interesting indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek   Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 02, 2009 5:07 pm

Hello micjer,

Yes you are correct that he says that is what the hopi believes and he also is taking part in the welcoming ceremony if I understood what he said.

This guy Drunvalo can welcome back anyone he wants to as far as I am concerned I have no issue with that at all, as can the hopi tribal council as well.

The issue I have raised concerns only my thoughts and beliefs as I do not speak for anyone but me.

My point was that they want to welcome the nephilim back as their spiritual fathers and ancestors. The nephilim in Genesis chapter 6 are described as "the sons of God" the Strong's concordance numbers for this word giants is, 5303 and 5307, which means "fallen ones" with the emphasis in many applications as to fallen.

Also means bullies, tyrants.

Giants in Genesis means specifically their size, and as well as their depravity of mind.

According to the Book of Enoch, this prophet was sent to prophesy against these giants as to their wickedness and tried to get them to "repent" for what they did and of course they refused. They are also said to have been the first cannibals in the earth and that they actually ate human flesh.

They were the teachers of all things negative.

It is also said in Genesis chapter 6 verse 6 that God himself was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and actually "repented" for the "mistake" after he witnessed what the nephilim had done.

Now my point is this, I personally would not welcome back such a group as these nephilim, as their historic presence is too well documented to think that they were anything other that twisted and perverted.

Could the Hopi be the descendants of the Nephilim?

I suppose they could be perhaps through DNA manipulation or from sexual relations early on with Hopi women that the Nephilim may have raped. This I cannot say, as I am not an expert on the Hopi civilization.

But i do know that the Nephilims reputation of being twisted does not prove out through the "little history" I do know of about the Hopi tribes. I do not think the Hopi practiced human sacrifice or any other twisted practices that I have ever heard about?

Anyway like you said micjer it is an interesting subject to study and talk about.

The fact that the nephilim according to Genesis 6 verse 2 "Took" the daughters of men ( Adam ) by force according to the word in the Hebrew 3947 is enough to convince me that these Giants/Angels were fallen and that they acted like "assholes" by raping the women that they wished to is enough proof to me that I will not follow then anywhere or welcome them back. Again that applies to me only.

I study from the King James version of the Bible so that I can access the best Hebrew dictionary, the Strongs Concordance. Nowhere in the Book of Genesis in the first eight verses does it say the words, "The daughters of men were with the giants" according to the KJV.

Perhaps you study from a different version than the KJV and it may say that indeed, but it is not in the original text in that manner. That is the reason I study the KJV because I can access all the original language from the actual transcripts of the original texts.
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Gabriel says;

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Perhaps you study from a different version than the KJV and it may say that indeed, but it is not in the original text in that manner. That is the reason I study the KJV because I can access all the original language from the actual transcripts of the original texts.

No same KJV, those were my own words. I agree that they came across as rapists and I don't think we would want to welcome back that pandora's box so to speak.
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" That is the reason I study the KJV because I can access all the original language from the actual transcripts of the original texts."

What!? Study the 'original language' from the ACTUAL transcripts of the "original" texts.
I thought it was the King James "version " scratch

Am I missing something here?
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Hi Pilgrim,

I meant the King James version is "keyed" by every word to the original language from the ancient texts, I don't think you are missing anything.

I read the ancient texts through using the KJV, thats not hard as I have a strongs Concordance I look up the text in??

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The changes have begun!



Children of the New Dream
Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek

By Diane Cooper

Diane: So Drunvalo...who are these "Children of the New Dream" that you are so excited about?

Drunvalo: Well there are 3 different kinds of children emerging in the world today that I have been able to identify. The first are called the "Super Psychic Children of China." The second are called the "Indigo Children" and the third are called the "Children of AIDS."

The first one, the "Super Psychics of China," we talked about in the Flower of Life seminars. If you remember, the first one was discovered in 1984 when a child was found who was psychic beyond belief. Researchers conducted every psychic test you could imagine and he was 100% correct every time. You could turn cards over in another room and that didn't matter. He could perfectly know what was on the card.

So Omni magazine went to China and wrote an article on this discovery. They found one child and then another. When they went in 1984 they assumed it was a hoax so they did experiments like putting 100 kids in a room and taking a book and randomly pulling out a page. They would crumple it up and stick it under their arm. These kids could read every word on the page they did test after test, and the response was flawless. The phenomena didn't stop there. These kids are not just in China. They have spread all over the world. I personally have been talking to parents who ask me, ."..what do we do.. I have a kid who knows everything?" I believe Lee Carroll is calling the children being born here in the U.S. "the Indigo Children."

I personally think the two groups are coming from the same source, however, I don't know that for sure. There appear to be two separate groups, incredibly psychic and amazing. It is the third group that I am most interested in--the "Children of AIDS." About 10 or 11 years ago in the US, there was a baby born with AIDS. They tested him at birth and at 6 months and he tested positive for AIDS. They tested him a year later and he still tested positive. Then they didn't test him again until he was 6, and what was amazing is that this test showed that he was completely AIDS free! In fact, there was no trace that he ever had AIDS or HIV whatsoever! He was taken to UCLA to see what was going on and those tests showed that he didn't have normal human DNA.

In the human DNA we have 4 nucleic acids that combine in sets of 3 producing 64 different patterns that are called codons. Human DNA all over the world always has 20 of these codons turned on and the rest of them are turned off, except for 3 which are the stop and start codes, much like a computer. Science always assumed that the ones that were turned off were old programs from our past. I've always seen them like application programs in a computer.

Anyway...this boy had 24 codons turned on--4 more than any other human being. Then they tested this kids to see how strong his immune system was. They took a very lethal dose of AIDS in a petri dish and mixed it with some of his cells and his cells remained completely unaffected. They kept raising the lethalness of the composition and finally went up to 3,000 times more than what was necessary to infect a human being and his cells stayed completely disease free. Then they started testing his blood with other things like cancer and discovered that this kid was immune to everything!

Then they found another kid with these codons turned on--then another one then another one--then 10,000, then 100,000, then a million of them and at this point, UCLA, by watching world-wide DNA testing, estimates that 1% of the world has this new DNA. That breaks down to approximately 60 million people who are not human by the old criteria.

Diane: Is this new codon activation found only in newborn children?

Drunvalo: Well, it's mostly children, but now they are finding adults with it too--just like the hundredth monkey theory. Now all kinds of people are being affected by it and it's spreading fast. Remember, it started just 5 years ago with almost no one and now it's spreading--just like a disease. It's like an outbreak and this is only the beginning.

The other part of this concerns the new book entitled "Cracking the Bible Code"--which has to do with running the Hebrew Books of the Bible through a specialized computer program. If20you go to page 164 of this book, it shows where these researchers put the word 'AIDS' into the program to see what would happen. when they did, the program translation provided words like "HIV," "in the blood," "the immune system," "death"--all the things you would think you'd see around the word AIDS, but down in the corner was this sentence that they didn't understand and it said--"the end of disease," and that is what I believe is happening here.

"Science has stated that there are so many people showing up with this new alien DNA that they now believe that a new human race is being born on the earth today and apparently they can't get sick." Now what is really incredible--they believe that it is a very specific emotional, mental body response--a waveform coming off the body that is causing the DNA to mutate in a certain way.

I've sat with Gregg Braden who was one of the first persons to write about this and what we believe is that there are 3 parts to this phenomenon. "The first part is the mind that sees Unity." It sees the Flower of Life. It sees everything interconnected in all ways. It doesn't see anything as separate. And the "second part is being centered in the heart--to be Loving. " And the "third thing is to step out of polarity--to no longer judge the world." As long as we are judging the world as good or bad, then we are inside polarity and remain in the fallen state.

I believe these people (with the new DNA) have somehow stepped out of judging and are in a state where they see everything as one and feeling Love. Whatever they are doing within themselves is producing a waveform that when seen on computer screens looks almost identical to the DNA molecule. So the researchers think that by the very expression of their life that these people are mapping with the DNA--resonating it--and are changing these 4 codons, and in so doing become immune to the disease.

What they don't know and this is where a lot of research gets to happen is so maybe they are immune, but is there anything else? They might be immortal, who knows. Maybe there are other characteristics that we haven't even dreamed of. I often wonder if they are all linked together?Is there some form of telepathic connection that goes on?

Diane: Have you met any of these people? Are they accessible?

Drunvalo: Well, I've known about this for over two years and I have personally followed this path and I think I've moved into what they are doing. I have gone into the merkabah and asked my subconscious mind to change my codons in the same way and ever since I began to do this over two years ago, I haven't been able to get sick. I don't know if I've been able to change them or not. I guess the only way I'd know is with a DNA test. However, I've been exposed to all kinds of things and when someone gets sick I purposely get close to them and try to get it. I've been trying to get sick--and I can't. I feel something come on--it will last maybe an hour and then it's gone.

What is interesting is that hardly any of this new DNA is found in the Super Psychic Children of China--almost zero. It is, however, being found in Russia and the U.S. There seem to be pockets of it and if what we are thinking is right--it has to do with a very specific response which is where most people in the New Age are headed for.

Diane: Do you think these people are creating the DNA changes unconsciously?

Drunvalo: I think someone has made the path--one child did it somewhere.Then he put it into the grids and it is now in the subconscious of the earth and is accessible to anyone. Once that happened I think somehow or another other people have connected to this on a subconscious level in deep meditation and prayer and made the change. A new race is being born and it is one of the most remarkable phenomena to have occurred on the planet! It's incredible that no one seems to know about this until now!

Diane: Well, you are the only one I've ever heard speak about this.

Drunvalo: Well, I've been tracking this for about 2 years and I've waited to say anything because I wanted to make sure it was real. In the book called "The Indigo Children" there has been extensive research on these children. There are websites you can go to if you're a parent where they begin to interview you about exactly what's going on with your child.

Like I said earlier, these kids know exactly what you're feeling and what you're thinking. You can't hide anything from them. It's really amazing! I see it as a phenomenon like the ETs except they aren't coming here in spaceship form--they are coming here in spirit form making it personal by coming into the earth's evolutionary cycle and joining with us.

I've often thought that when spirits come in on the right side of the planet--Japan, China, and Tibet for instance, the incarnating being takes on the psychic characteristics (of those people), and if they come in on the western side--the logical side (i.e., physical characteristics)--then the DNA comes in changed. But that's just speculation on my part. I'm just looking at this and trying to understand what is occurring. At the workshops I'm going to do, I'm going to bring everything I've learned together and teach people to actually access this and make the change. I think I know--or I'm very close.

Diane: And that has to do with putting yourself in a certain state of consciousness?

Drunvalo: Yes, a very specific state of consciousness produces a change in your DNA--and I think it's just the beginning of much more than that. The fact that it could be the end of disease is just a tiny bit of the total picture.

Diane: How would this particular kind of work and discovery affect the DNA activation work that seems to be popping up all over?

Drunvalo: Well, if you know your light body and you know how psychic energy works and if you understand the connection of the subconscious to all life on this planet, then you can go in and ask your subconscious. "Your subconscious knows exactly which codons those kids have changed and if you ask for those things to happen through your light body and in the presence of God," it should occur. "It also requires dropping polarity--no longer thinking in terms of good or bad but seeing the wholeness and completion and perfection of life." It is a very definite mind, emotional and body response.

The body response is the one where your body simply does not acknowledge good or bad but sees that there is a higher purpose behind it all. We all know this stuff--everyone from Jesus to Krishna to Sai Baba has been talking about this for a long time, but this is the first I'm aware of where something actually is changing in the outer environment. People's DNA is really changing. There have been many of us who have talked about this--but none of this had been seen by science. Now it has been seen, and it has been documented.

Diane: So, if that's the case, then what significance does that have on our lives today?

Drunvalo: I believe that all of us have the choice to follow this particular pattern that the children have set up or not. It is said that "the children will lead the way." If we wish to and we trust these children, as I do, one of the side effects is the immunity to disease.

Diane: There are a lot of us who are choosing immortality. However, some people would say that to be immune to disease is also to upset the life/death cycle which has supposedly helped to keep the planet in balance. How would you answer that?

Drunvalo: Well, I just don't judge it. This is happening and if it is going to upset the cycle and it probably will in some way--everything that is occurring in life has a reason and purpose for it. Perhaps these people who don't get sick anymore--perhaps they won't even die anymore and maybe their consciousness is so aligned with the original purpose of earth that ultimately it would mean an earth that is whole and complete and not one that is polluted and deadly and overtaxed. We could easily live with 6 billion people or 20 billion...if...we live differently.

There is plenty of space, and it's just that we are using our resources in ways that are killing the planet. If we were to choose to live in different ways, that might change. Maybe through these people the answers might become apparent. For someone to move into a state where they are immune to disease is a very powerful indication that they are definitely in harmony with life somehow. We can equate this process with the mutation of bacteria and viruses.

We attack their systems with pollutants such as penicillin for instance, and it kills them all except for a few. Those few get stronger. Now what's happening is that these bacteria are getting to the place where they are immune to the poisons we are giving them. And have we not done the same thing? We are mutating to a point where we are not affected by pollution or viruses or by disease.

And you know, there is another thing that happened last year--AIDS dropped something like 47%--the largest drop of a single disease in the history of the world. I believe that it had a lot to do with this very thing we are talking about.

Diane: That's exciting!

Drunvalo: Yes, it is. I just let the earth prompt me where to go. Of course, it is important to know our light bodies and how to use them, but the children are very carefully saying--come this way--and see where this leads.

Diane: So is this what your future workshops will be focused on?

Drunvalo: Yes. I will be putting everything I've learned in the last two years from my research and the Earth/Sky work, into a simple response where anyone can move into the place that the children accessed. I'll do my best!
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PostSubject: Re: Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek   Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon May 11, 2009 8:50 am

and how much for the "future workshops", drunvalo?
$100, $200, $1000 per person?

sorry, mic, i am still a bit pissed off at the
capitalistic approach to the "gathering of the elders"
for which drunvalo was fronting and selling....

if the goal was to shift consciousness, why were the poor people left out?
even poor people who desperately wanted to volunteer, just
to be part of it, were required to pay $50

in all my years of talking with, being advised by and
interested in spiritual counselors of all sorts, i have always
been put off by those charging high fees - i have always
advocated donations based on ability to pay, or barter

to me, the exorbitant fee is a red flag for StS elements...
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Winehippie,

I also take the same stand you do about the charging of high prices for these type of things.

Your point about the poor being left out is excellent.

It is my personal thoughts that if these people that charge high prices would allow for poor people to be given free access, or a pay according to your ability system, then these people that put these things on would be greatly blessed by God in many different ways.

I understand people have to make a living, but at the same time there needs to be some kind of sympathy shown for the poor.

And a lot of these new age type of events very often seem to be somewhat "high browed" or a kind of "click" that I find very unhealthy.

Y'shua Messiah went among the poor and gave to them freely, and this guy never missed a meal, except when he chose to fast, and never lacked a place to sleep at night
and because of his giving freely the scriptures said he had a hundred families, and a hundred homes, or in other words if he freely gave it would be given back to him a hundred times, and that is the formula of the universe, to freely give.
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PostSubject: Re: Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek   Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon May 11, 2009 11:29 am

seems to me, gabe, that some of "the poor" may be
more enlightened than most - especially if they
have rejected materialism and given themselves over
to service to others... so by leaving them out, these
event organizers are missing a very powerful piece
of the higher-consciousness puzzle - and if it takes
as many like-minded people as possible to affect
a shift, why would any truly knowedgeable organizer
limit results? it just makes me crazy, i tell ya!

thanks for validating my point, much appreciated
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Good point WH I feel much the same, anyone who is trying to make a buck off of this and am not a real big fan of David Wilcox although I like Drunvalo Melchizedek, it pains me that they all want to gain from humanity rather then help it
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No need to apologize to me WH. I had not put 2 and 2 together here. I knew you had stated that they were charging $200 per person for the event, but I didn't realize DM was involved with it.

I agree totally that charging for something like this taints the whole process. Same goes for websites that charge really turn me off. Donate is fine.


Thanks for bringing me up to speed.

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PostSubject: Re: Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek   Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon May 11, 2009 12:55 pm

wh and the rest of you guys.. wave

i think that is great info wine hippie..and while i agree with the money thing..
i think the message he has here about the kids and us and all is a great one...
and we should overlook the messager for the message



i believe these people (with the new DNA) have somehow stepped out of judging and are in a state where they see everything as one and feeling Love. Whatever they are doing within themselves is producing a waveform that when seen on computer screens looks almost identical to the DNA molecule. So the researchers think that by the very expression of their life that these people are mapping with the DNA--resonating it--and are changing these 4 codons, and in so doing become immune to the disease.

What they don't know and this is where a lot of research gets to happen is so maybe they are immune, but is there anything else? They might be immortal, who knows. Maybe there are other characteristics that we haven't even dreamed of. I often wonder if they are all linked together?Is there some form of telepathic connection that goes on?
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no, ma'am, i read his messages
i am drawn to the sacred geometry
and fractals
and lots of his stuff (in theory)....

but what has been said about mixing truth
in with disinformation needs to be remembered

as well as the art of discernment
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wine hippie

i do agree with you..and was basically only talking about the dna changes..which have been documented in other places also...

but i can't help but think if they test mine and i have more activated that they will put me in a cage and poke at me..yikes
and that isn't a happy thought..
just working on the changes are
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Paying that much for workshops is a bit rich.

Is there any documented evidence of these 4 codons that have been turned on in the DNA?

AIDS has to be one of the biggest conspiraces of modern time. HIV is a retro virus that only lives off the cells, only goes for the ride but doesn't kill cells. What was killing healthy cells was the AZT given in the medication.

Another book I will recommend is: Deadly Deception the Proof That Sex And HIV Absolutely Do Not Cause AIDS by Robert E. Willner.
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