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PostSubject: Re: occupy wall street   occupy wall street - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Oct 03, 2011 6:19 am



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'Last night we reported on the 700 Occupy Wall Street protesters who got arrested for marching on and obstructing the Brooklyn Bridge. Some have apparently claimed entrapment by the police (who encouraged them to walk on the road), but the people we talked to last night mostly suggested that the police merely stood by and watched, not encouraging them, but not stopping them either.

So far we've seen no evidence of police actually encouraging protesters to go on the road, but there are videos that show police walking in front of the protesters, as they go up onto the road.

This isn't the same as encouraging them to go on the road, but on the other hand, you could see why people in a crowd would think that going on a bridge is kosher if the police are calmly walking in front of the crowd as they go up the road.'

Read more: Will These Two Videos Absolve The Arrested Brooklyn Bridge Protesters?


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This reminds me so much of moving cattle. I have cattle so I know that if you try to chase them they will turn and run in every direction to avoid being cornered. However if you go out and mingle among them and quietly walk in a particular direction, they have a tendancy to follow you. They are a very curious creature if they don't feel threatened.

At least the arrests were not violent.


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ok..back to this occupy thing..you know they weren't getting much poblicity till they started doing these arrests..and most of the arrested were let go within hours...so it makes me ask lots of questions
like
who DID they keep and why
who called for the arrests and what was the real reason ?

are they trying to make us think we have some power why something else is going on
you know - the old bait and switch

are they trying to give them more credibility by making some of them martyrs???

doesn't sound like dumb luck that they 'trapped" a certain number of them

were they trying to get a certain person who was in the crowd to jail so they could get more info without blowing his/her cover?
or
were they trying to catch one certain person that they knew would be in the crowd for other reasons?

yeah..i know. too many tv shows..sigh... BigSmile2

it is all sounding more and more convoluted to me...if they had just ignored them they would have eventually gotten tired and just gone home..
but nooooooooooo
so just who is doing what and why...

just call me a non trusting cynic..

but i like the info on the cows..cows have always given me the willies casue they do that..just follow you like that

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PostSubject: Re: occupy wall street   occupy wall street - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Oct 04, 2011 2:03 am

Although it cannot be denied, the police use plain clothed 'stooges' in crowds to get them all riled up chanting etc. it's also plausible that the majority of the crowd are there for the right reasons.

Police also corral protesters like cattle into smaller and smaller places just to get them to react further, so that they then have even more excuse to arrest the innocent.

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PostSubject: Re: occupy wall street   occupy wall street - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Oct 04, 2011 3:05 am

has anyone seen the sat photo of what looks to be thousands and thousands of people clogging the streets?

Turns out its photoshopped. Some guy did it as an artwork, then some other guy stole it and wrote on it that it was of the protest then emailed and facebooked it out.
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I would be totally oblivious to those things Stal, just goes to show ya.
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PostSubject: Re: occupy wall street   occupy wall street - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Oct 04, 2011 9:24 am

Unless anyone has been to Wall St recently, we'll never know the exact figure, but I'm sure there's more rather than less.
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not doubting that mate, just the guy who passed it off as real admitted that its a fake picture, and sees no problem with using lies to promote the protest, which to me takes away from the whole idea.

Also, when confronted, he reacted exactly like a troll. When he couldn't deny the photoshop job, he turned straight to talling everyone to fuck off etc etc. I've seen to many trolls and shills to miss that sign.
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I hear ya !
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scratch
my question is still WHY


The NYPD did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Huffington Post.

Verheyden-Hilliard said the fact that the so-called warnings were videotaped shows premeditation. She added that the warnings were bad theater -- police were speaking inaudibly into a bullhorn; they were for show only, she said.

Police departments may have popularized the tactic of snuffing out and intimidating protests during the anti-globalization movement a decade ago that criticized corporate capitalism. But Verheyden-Hilliard said the method has gone international in the last couple of years.

"It's been used in London and in Toronto. They call it 'kettling' there in Toronto," she said. “It's a particular tactic, a refined police tactic -- you get boxed by police on all sides or, even easier, when there are buildings or a bridge and you block the front and the back."

The tactic has been deployed by police in Oakland and other cities as well, according to Verheyden-Hilliard. But it was D.C.'s Metropolitan Police Department that made "trap and detain" infamous


...entire article

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Occupy Wall Street Mass Arrest Resembles Infamous, Costly Police Tactic, Critics Say
Jason Cherkis
WASHINGTON -- Ben Becker, 27, sat in the back of a police-commandeered transit bus on Saturday night, his hands placed tightly behind his back in plastic cuffs. He'd been marching on the Brooklyn Bridge as part of the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations. And like hundreds of other activists railing against the inequities of the financial system, he had been swept up in a mass arrest by the New York Police Department.

Becker was one of the first placed in custody. His bus filled up fast. They waited, tied up for hours, and did not know their charges, Becker said. For many, this was new: the march, the chanting, the arrest.

"Some of the teenagers on the bus were extremely nervous," Becker said.

But this was a scenario Becker knew well. He was the named plaintiff in the Partnership for Civil Justice's 2001 federal class-action lawsuit against the District of Columbia, known as Becker v. D.C. That case stemmed from the D.C. police department's mass arrest of anti-IMF/World Bank demonstrators on April 15, 2000. Becker was one of nearly 700 people arrested during that march. He was 16 at the time.

On Tuesday, the Partnership for Civil Justice filed yet another class-action lawsuit -- this one again on behalf of Becker and others arrested on the bridge.

"I was telling the young people -- the teenagers -- the people who had been protesting for the first time, when we were sitting on the bus for hours, I was telling them the similarities to April 2000," said Becker, who is currently an adjunct professor at City College of New York and a graduate student studying history.

The mass arrests on the Brooklyn Bridge resemble a clear, premeditated police tactic that has come to be known as "trap and detain," said Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, executive director of the Partnership for Civil Justice. The tactic goes something like this, she said: the police permit and escort marchers to proceed with their activities before suddenly corralling them into a closed off area and arresting everyone in one sweep.

The police will use a side street, a park, or, in the case of Occupy Wall Street, a bridge -- usually an area where the people trapped cannot disperse, and where they end up having to beg the police to leave, Verheyden-Hilliard said. Journalists, tourists and legal observers are often caught up in these dragnets. A reason for the arrests is crafted after the fact, she said.

The NYPD says its officers warned the activists not to take the motorway. “There were claims police had not issued warnings,” Paul J. Browne, the chief spokesman for the police, stated in an email to The New York Times. “In fact, warnings were issued and captured on video.”

The NYPD did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Huffington Post.

Verheyden-Hilliard said the fact that the so-called warnings were videotaped shows premeditation. She added that the warnings were bad theater -- police were speaking inaudibly into a bullhorn; they were for show only, she said.

Police departments may have popularized the tactic of snuffing out and intimidating protests during the anti-globalization movement a decade ago that criticized corporate capitalism. But Verheyden-Hilliard said the method has gone international in the last couple of years.

"It's been used in London and in Toronto. They call it 'kettling' there in Toronto," she said. “It's a particular tactic, a refined police tactic -- you get boxed by police on all sides or, even easier, when there are buildings or a bridge and you block the front and the back."

The tactic has been deployed by police in Oakland and other cities as well, according to Verheyden-Hilliard. But it was D.C.'s Metropolitan Police Department that made "trap and detain" infamous.

On April 15, 2000, according to court records, demonstrators had gathered in front of the Department of Justice on Pennsylvania Avenue NW and marched to a spot close to the International Monetary Fund on 19th Street NW. Police were very much a presence during the march. As the crowd headed toward Dupont Circle, where it was set to disperse, the activists were suddenly penned in on a side street by the police, according to Becker and court records.

The department at the time justified the arrests by arguing that the officers were trying to prevent chaos in the streets. "I apologize for nothing we did," the then-Police Chief Charles Ramsey said at the time. "They have the right to sue us just like they had the right to protest."

Along with the mass arrest, several plaintiffs in the Becker case alleged that they were beaten by D.C. cops. The court case produced a video that showed a police unit charging a group of demonstrators and beating them in the face with batons. The officers had obscured their badge numbers. Another plaintiff said he had been injured with pepper spray and alleged that the cop's attack had been unprovoked.

"There was a police line in riot gear," Becker remembered. "They refused to let us go. We turned around and the police line blocked. We were chanting for almost an hour, 'let us go!'"

Becker said he heard the same chants on the Brooklyn Bridge this past weekend. People were chanting their lungs out when the march started at 3 p.m. Saturday at Zuccotti Park in Lower Manhattan, he said. It soon passed City Hall. Only 15 minutes in, thousands of demonstrators had picked out a few favorites.

"Banks got bailed out, we got sold out!" they chanted.

"We are the 99 percent!"

And in honor of the recent execution of a Georgia inmate: "We are all Troy Davis!"

Throughout the march, the throngs stayed on sidewalks. If people spilled onto the streets, police were there within seconds to admonish them to get off the roadway, Becker said. Becker and Joshua Stephens, another demonstrator interviewed by HuffPost, said everyone complied without hassle. "It was a very closely-monitored and marshaled protest up to the Brooklyn Bridge," Becker recalled.

There had been a demonstration the previous day at One Police Plaza over a pepper-spray incident. A white-shirt cop had indiscriminately sprayed several women in the face; it had been caught on tape and gone viral. Becker said a thousand people showed up and said their piece without getting hassled by police.

The march became a bottleneck at the bridge, Becker said. The demonstrators first had to cross a street and then pass a narrow entranceway. Becker said he saw no cops as he passed on to the bridge.

When Marcel Cartier, 27, started marching on the bridge's motorway, he said the police only insisted on keeping one lane open for cars. "We began marching on the street with police right next to us not saying anything," he told HuffPost. "The most that was said -- 'Excuse me brother, could you move over?' They kept one lane open for cars. It was fine. It was perfectly okay for us to be on that street on the bridge."

After about 15 minutes on the bridge, the march came to a halt as the police formed a line and stopped the marchers, Becker said. Cartier and Becker both moved up to the front.

A police official took out a piece of paper and read from it into a bullhorn. "It was inaudible," Becker said. "I couldn't hear."

Cartier didn't get the message either. "I heard absolutely nothing," he said. "No announcement that they were going to arrest people." He didn't know he was in trouble until three others were hauled away. Then a cop pointed at him and a few officers pulled him out and cuffed him, he said. He was the fourth activist arrested that day.

Becker, before he was arrested, asked an officer: "Why are you doing this?" He pressed that the police were the ones blocking traffic. Another cop grabbed him and escorted him to the police bus, he said. It would be the second arrest in his life, the first being in April 2000.

"I certainly was not expecting or wanting to be having a repeat encounter," Becker said. "The arrests in 2000 were horrible for the people that went through them...There is still a lot of legal work to be done to correct that. This movement that's developing has to take this on as a major issue."

The April 2000 lawsuit resulted in record settlement with the District of Columbia in 2009 agreeing to pay $13.7 million to those arrested. The litigation also resulted in a ban on the "trap and detain" tactic. U.S. District Court Judge Paul Friedman wrote that it reminded him of the old discredited police responses to anti-Vietnam War protesters -- "when thousands of demonstrators were arrested on a theory of 'group' probable cause on the steps of the Capitol, in West Potomac Park, and on the streets of the District of Columbia."

A subsequent case was brought against the Metropolitan Police Department over the arrest of 400 individuals in Pershing Park in September 2002 for, once again, demonstrations involving anti-globalization activists.

Like the other "trap and detain" cases, the police surrounded the downtown-D.C. park and hauled away everyone inside -- including tourists and nurses who weren’t necessarily involved but were merely taking a break from a nearby convention. That case, also filed by the Partnership for Civil Justice, was settled with the city in late 2009 for $8.25 million. A second lawsuit stemming from Pershing Park has yet to reach a settlement.

The NYPD, Verheyden-Hilliard said, should expect a similar fight. "I think people have to recognize the police are acting deliberately and intentionally," she said. "It's not that they're reacting to some protest or misconduct or that they're overreaching or maybe they had probable cause to arrest someone. They did not have probable cause to arrest anyone. They have been engaged in a pattern and practice to suppress dissent for years."

"They ordered the arrest buses from Rikers," she added. "When you are ordering arrest buses, you are intending to make mass arrests."



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well this is getter bigger and more attention and spreading all over the country...soo it's going to get real interesting..or should i say more interesting...just going to add links and short paragraphs.. if you want more go to the articles

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44791261/ns/us_news-life/?gt1=43001
Unions, students join Wall Street protesters
Protests were also slated for college campuses across New York

msnbc.com news services
updated 10/6/2011 1:00:20 AM ET 2011-10-06T05:00:20

NEW YORK — Unions gave a high-profile boost to the long-running protest against Wall Street and economic inequality Wednesday, with their members joining thousands of protesters in a lower Manhattan march. Across the country, students at several colleges walked out of classes in solidarity.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/occupy-wall-street-nypd-police-brutality-video_n_997414.html

Occupy Wall Street: Video Allegedly Shows NYPD Officer Striking Protesters With Baton (Photos)
Just before 8 p.m. Wednesday, reportedly at the corner of Broadway and Wall Street, a New York Police Department officer appeared to turn on a throng of activists with the Occupy Wall Street movement, hitting them with a baton. A video posted hours later to YouTube shows the officer wielding the baton with two hands -- like a baseball bat -- as he swings at and strikes the demonstrators. At one point, a woman can be heard shrieking in the background.



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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-reinbach/occupywallstreet-and-the-_b_997962.html

#OccupyWallStreet and the American Heart
The #OccupyWallStreet protests have legs. There's no doubt about it.

If you don't believe it, just take a look at the live feed some genius put on the web.

What you won't see is a bunch of angry, middle-aged folks -- some armed -- complaining about government. Instead, you have people, many young, who know something is wrong in America -- and want to make it right for everyone. It's joyful, and inclusive, and means no harm.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-wellington-ennis/occupy-wall-street_b_997423.html

The Endgame of Occupy Wall Street Is Critical Mass
What is surprisingly unique about the Occupy Wall Street demonstration, and supporting actions across the country, is the broad immediate support without an immediately stated objective. With so little coverage and a yet unspecified goal, major unions lent their support, supportive occupations cropped up nationwide, and the numbers in Liberty Park are growing despite NYPD crackdowns.


Unlike anti-war marches, Tea Party gatherings, or other well-worn modes of protest, the notion of an in-person response to Wall Street's unchecked looting of the economy apparently did not need much explaining. That is because many Americans have been living with painful awareness that their hardships in recent years are related in a myriad of ways to reckless trading, predatory loans, and manifold illegal banking practices, all perpetrated by the same executives still receiving multi-million dollar bonuses whose guilt is trumped by the notion that their companies are Too Big To Fail.


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no problems from here.. but it is www.occupywallst.org ...street is not spelled out...i went back to the beginning of this thread and clicked on that link

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The resistance continues at Liberty Square and Nationwide!
NewsLiveStreamForumChatUser MapNYCGAAboutDonate AFT fully endorses Occupy Wall Street
Posted Oct. 6, 2011, 4:48 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

The American Federation of Teachers Local 1839 fully endorses Occupy Wall Street.

In solidarity on behalf of our Local,

Ivan S. Steinberg, President AFT Local 1839

William Calathes, Executive Vice President AFT Local 1839

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This Site Has Nothing To Do With Us
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We are not a political institution.

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..even Deepak Chopra is writting..here's his take

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/the-occupy-movement-turni_b_997045.html

The 'Occupy' Movement: Turning Anger Into Awareness
If you haven't found yourself caught up in the Occupy movement yet, the best place is in the thick of the action. I went down to Wall Street one night to see for myself. Like many people, if not all, the outcome of the financial crash still rankled. No one can watch the TV coverage of the Occupy America sit-ins and marches without sharing in some kind of frustration and anger.

When you get down there, though, you feel something else. Unlike the Tea Party, the Occupiers are young and idealistic, repeating a time-honored coming of age phase that is being acted out in public. Anyone who has lived through the sixties can stand aside and predict what will happen, because it has happened so often before. Ideals become lost in confusion, cynicism, and hard clashes with authority and other reactionary forces.

But let's not make such predictions. If Occupy America turns anger into awareness, we might get something like a Tea Party for the left. Or even better, a reform movement that marches for an ideal that succeeds. If the Tea Party represents the ornery, "I'm mad as hell, and I won't put up with it anymore" side of America, the Occupiers represent the side that says, "This country stands for justice and equality."

Despite the media coverage of mass arrests, despite the Times's finger-wagging that the movement is often muddled and misinformed, none of that is the point. The point is justice. Unlike the anti-war movement of fifty years ago, now we have a President who believes in justice and equality. It's fashionable to bash President Obama right now, but he has had to make choices between bad and worse, facing an intractable downturn and an opposition that leaves him no breathing room.

If Occupy America can channel its anger into awareness, the next step is to ask, "What is our goal?" When I was down among the demonstrators, I led a meditation on that question, and it seemed to calm down the people around me, which demonstrates, I think, that the whole Occupy movement is about angry idealists, not just people who feel screwed by Wall St., although that is the spark and the point of injustice that somehow must be faced.

Pragmatists claim that one outcome -- a heavily regulated financial sector -- will never happen. The banks were bailed out three years ago, and once they felt strong, they lobbied with all their might to insure that no meaningful regulation would be passed. that is outrageous, of course, and so is the immorality of how Wall St., having caused the crash, continues to take ungodly risks, but now with a government guarantee that they won't fail, no matter how reckless their behavior. Right now Wall St. is the pure culture of money at its most selfish, greedy, and anti-social. If you aren't angry about that, you aren't breathing.

We stand at a pivotal moment when anger can continue to fester and feed upon itself -- if that's what you want, the Tea Party is ready to welcome you with open arms. Or anger can rebuild the system that caused all the problems. Occupy America is pure democracy against pure power, because nobody should have any illusion about who holds all the aces. I can't predict where the movement will go; perhaps it will fizzle out tomorrow with a resigned sigh.

But I do know that truth must be spoken to power. Eventually, all change starts there, by ignoring the odds and the threat of punishment, by standing up and saying "I accuse you of injustice." This action must be taken over and over again, and if the people speaking truth to power have right on their side and not just a boiling stew pot of rage, things will change. There's no reason why an Arab spring can't turn into an American autumn.

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i am not a facebook person or any of those social things..but some friends are and one just sent me this..
it looks like a positive way to be invloved without being there

i recognize several names from a healing circle a few years back so i can speak to the fact there are some
powerful women here as well as being highest good committed

so if any are interested here's the link

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lightenergy-workerswarriors-unite-we-are-the-99/220268801371163?notif_t=page_new_likes#!/pages/Lightenergy-workerswarriors-unite-we-are-the-99/220268801371163


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and finally

Keith-Olbermann Reads The-Statement Released By The Wall Street Protesters-2011


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and yeah steward went for it

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this just about summarizes it for ME ...

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it is GROWING, zuni, where ARE you, plz check in ......
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update:

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cheers clap Good on that man. If only the police had as much backbone!

I hope they understand that the military are sent abroad to protect their county whilst the police are tearing it apart with their ignorance. Don't they realise THEY are living in the same country that they are doing everything against???
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The protesters in Melbourne against corporate greed are refusing to move eventhough they received an eviction notice from the police today.

They are protesting in Federation Square I think and camping out there, as it is a public place I didnt think they could be moved with an eviction notice but there you go.
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rainbow heart

Biggs

i think if they can keep this peaceful ..it is the real change the world has been waiting for
a peaceful revolution
perhaps this is the consciouness leap spoken of...instead of we all dump the meatsuits and achieved hyperspace in a thought

you just can't have a NEW system without getting rid of the old one..

we are awesome ..now if only we stay peaceful and don't turn into those we want gone

hair pulling dang soap box soapbox ..can't seem to get awy from it hamp lol!
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This for you sky. xo
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