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PostSubject: ZORGON   ZORGON Icon_minitimeSun Mar 15, 2009 11:57 am



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PostSubject: Re: ZORGON   ZORGON Icon_minitimeSun Mar 15, 2009 1:30 pm

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your answer was people who were used for CIA or military or what ever...

Well there was more to my answer than just the CIA

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well there is many people out there who are this and they are NOT involved with any military or cia these people are not known to the many they could be that cook at the bakery they could be that bum down the street begging for a buck they could be your homeroom teacher!

Agreed but you should also know that not all those in the CIA etc are working for the dark side.

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it can be anyone they do not make them selfs known... and they blend in really good..

Agreed... except sometimes they do make themselves known...

On the other side of this however are MANY who CLAIM to have these abilities... and you find those on stages, as 'fortune tellers' and as whistle blowers and forum channelers who feel it their 'duty' to tell the world what is about to happen... believers then go out and change their lives drastically (like the 2003 Zeta/Nibiru incident) only to find out later (to late) that it was all BS... or at the least, a wrong belief. These types usually have an agenda to push and attempt to get a following... I have yet to see a true seer posting on forums. They may be there, but I haven't seen one yet...

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well I know someone like this.. and this person is helping me...
now... the only thing is this person can not voluntary just start pouring things out I have to figure things out for my self I bring it up with this person then this person directs me in the correct direction

Agreed... the student must ask the teacher... and know what to ask...

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this person never asks for money this person has some really bizarre things about this person
notice I say person I do not say he or she... I am protecting this person...

Asking for money is bad... accepting offerings is allowed, though not always accepted when offered

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I can not just go to this person and ask for the lottery numbers... it doesn't work that way...
this person does things for the good and not for the self..

Agreed... its also 'against the rules'

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I also feel the more and more this person helps the more and more this person gets sicker..
I think this person shouldn't be helping me or guiding me...

The more energy used... the weaker one becomes. I have know empaths, those that can heal by the touch... draw the disease into their own body then shuck it... When these people get overloaded they can no longer shuck it off and become sick and can die... One I know would not shake hands, because he would sense your illness (and most of us have something especially as we age) and then he would feel obligated to help...

I don't think its "shouldn't" be helping you on a cosmic scale... just shouldn't from a personal level of over taxation... our physical bodies are not that great

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any ways zorgon I just wanted to tell you I have proof there is real people out there who can see the future.. who have special abilities I guess you could say..

I don't doubt that... BUT I believe very strongly, and have been taught, that when we see the future... all we see is POSSIBLE futures... since free will can at any moment change that possible future all we can see is what MOST LIKELY MIGHT happen...

An example....

I see a car crash that kills you tomorrow... so tomorrow you are just out for a walk... going no where special...

You are walking down a street that ends in a T intersection... you have a choice... three actually

A) Turn left
B) Turn right
C) Turn back the way you came


Now C) is the most unlikely future... why would you turn back?

If you turn left... a car looses control and smashes into a wall... with you caught between... you die

If you turn right... you hear a crash and turn to see the car hit the wall... but you are alive...

So since the car and your death 'vision' is a stronger one than the other two... that one will most likely be 'seen'

Okay so I come to you and say... "you will die tomorrow..." Most likely I don't have the exact details like "don't turn left" Rarely visions are that clear...

So you see my point?

Now if I tell you that and you stay home... maybe you were meant to die that day... and now I have interfered with your path...


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ok... now last night before I went to bed like always I have questions im looking for answers...
last night you came up... I dont know why but you did..
I wanted to help you find some answers you are looking for...
I was told no matter what you say to this person they wont believe you because they have to see it with their own eyes and experience it for them self..

Well thanks for thinking of me... but there is an error there. I believe a lot of what people tell me. You would be surprised.

I do like to back up as much as I can with fact though. It is true I will believe someone more face to face than in a post by some anonymous writer who could be anyone, because face to face their is more than just words to go on

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well right after that I had some really way out there images or visions come my way
I seen a city like no other I have ever seen before
I think it was a city it looked like one.. the colors were blacks copper and goldish tints...
it had a large dome over it that moved I am guessing it moved with the sun to get energy from it... like half a fish bowl? and the city was inside...
I watched how the dome cover moved over it.. it could have been used as a shield of some sorts... I doodled the city down on my note pad maybe later I will take it to photoshop give it more details and post it..
the sky looked dark looked like it was night time all the time? so this made me wonder how those shields got energy
or I could be wrong about night and day there but when I seen it it was only night
then the ground looked red like sand... I didn't see grass or water...

Interesting... has a familiar ring to it... I would like to see your sketch/drawing

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I was also told they might pay you a visit.. and im guessing how they will do it is in your dreams... now im not sure if you are a dreamer some people are not... but they said they would show you things... then they said once they show you... you will still question your self and say ok I seen something but it was just a dream and maybe if you do believe what you seen if you told anyone no one would believe you cause you have no hard evidence lol
you have no photos you have no plant life you have nada except what visions were shown to you in your mind..


Hmmm A vision in a dream? Am I a dreamer? You might be surprised... After all I can see the dragons. The 'hard evidence' is to convince the others... surely you can see the logic in that? The problem I see in forums is too many dreams... and they are all different dreams that end up clashing with each other.. "My dream is the TRUTH..." "No Mine is"

Perhaps they are all right and that the "Secret" is that we all have our own reality in the end, though like a bowl of spaghetti all our realities are in a tangled mess

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also when I say they... hmmm well.. im not sure who they are I dont really have a name for them but some times the 'they' changes alot... the info comes from many places its just not one and sometimes I can see the 'face' where the info is coming from.. I have also learned if I feel frightened by the ones who show me things not to trust them but there has been a ton that I felt ok with wasn't frightened and seen and got alot of information from..

Ah but that is the trick... to separate the good messages from the bad...

Using a Ouija board for example... invites in the wrong kind... and they are hard to get rid of once you opened the door... (Kinda remind me of the Smurfs) The Tibetans teach that these are imps and play or prey easily on the gullible.


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what I do I call it drifting... you are not asleep... its the feeling you have just before going into a deep sleep but still awake..


Yes it is very hard, almost impossible, to find someone who can just pick a spot to go to at will... Ingo Swann and Joe McMoneagle both claim we cannot go past certain limits, nor visit certain places...


I seek answer all the time... a lifelong quest... but I have found many answers and many truths along the way...

Yet in forums like these I must gauge what I can or should reveal... you can see by responses whether or not you have listeners...
My 'Style' may bother some... but that is okay... it works for me quite well to separate those who wish to know from those who play games.

Most of my sharing comes via PM's and email... you would be amazed at the list of those who have contacted me in the last two years... so I shall stick to my style

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PostSubject: Re: ZORGON   ZORGON Icon_minitimeSun Mar 15, 2009 1:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: ZORGON   ZORGON Icon_minitimeSun Mar 15, 2009 6:57 pm

That good looking young kid up there with the female elve I do believe is Z/N's son.

He must have a stream of female admirers me thinks, but he doesn't look arrogant that is the main thing, arrogance is a real turn off for this elf.
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PostSubject: Re: ZORGON   ZORGON Icon_minitimeMon Mar 16, 2009 12:15 am

Biggles wrote:
That good looking young kid up there with the female elve I do believe is Z/N's son.

Nope not him... but the tartan in the background is LOL

This one is my son.. he made the shirt himself

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PostSubject: Re: ZORGON   ZORGON Icon_minitimeMon Mar 16, 2009 5:39 am

DIVERDOWN wrote:
what I do I call it drifting... you are not asleep... its the feeling you have just before going into a deep sleep but still awake..

hey,

that drifting...think it`s also called "hypnagogia".
(see wiki link below)

drifting kind of fits well....it`s easy to lose control over that drifting "state"....thinking of "Tokyo Drift" here..


hmm..tokyo drifting...that would be a cool dream-intro :)
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"hypnagogia, is a term coined by Alfred Maury for the transitional state between wakefulness and sleep"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia

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PostSubject: Re: ZORGON   ZORGON Icon_minitimeThu Mar 19, 2009 6:22 pm

This one is my son.. he made the shirt himself

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Well the young man with the elf is still good looking. Your pic of your son is too. He has a strong face Z/N. He looks strong in body and I am thinking mind as well. He looks to me as if he would be a very interesting person me thinks.

And BTW Z/N ha ha I do believe I picked up your son was artistic and you said No, well I do believe I am right. If he darn well made that vest himself I think I would be more right than you about that. Oh, and thanks mate, for just letting me know on this forum that his name was Connor, I had to figure that out myself just now from the link above.
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