WICKILEAKS

Here is a web site that shows leaked video of war footage, and the killing of some innocent people from a Helicopter gun ship. In this video it is obvious, that some of the people are not armed but with cameras and yet they are killed by the gunship.

Warning

This is graphic, and you can listen to the killers as they laugh at what is going on. This is on a street of a major city.

Link

http://www.wikileaks.org/

Here is a link to a short story of the back story of Wickileaks.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/

I saw some of this Gabe. When these guys get home do they ever think about what they did, who they shot like that. Because if they do not and they think they got away with this some how I have news for them.


THEY BLOODY WELL HAVE NOT GOT AWAY WITH IT AT ALL. THERE WERE THOUSANDS, MILLIONS OF SPECIES WATCHING WHAT THEY DID AND BECAUSE OF THEIR LACK OF EMPATHY AND SYMPATHY OR ANY SORT OF CONSCIENCE THEY WILL GET TO FEEL THE AFTERMATH ONCE THEY PASS INTO SPIRIT.

FOX TROT ROMEO, BLAH, BLAH F........ING BLAH, BLAH, OVER AND OUT.



BIG FRICKIN DEAL GUYS YOU HAVE A HELICOPTER AND SOME GUNS..................BIG FRICKIN HEROES, GET YOURSELVES SOME MEDALS.........................WEAR THEM DOWN THE STREET IN A PARADE YOU MORONS.

I agree biggs and couldn't have said it better.

Couldn't agree more :)

It was nice to see the MSM plastering this on the front pages of their sites aswell. Whether it wakes people up to the BS thats going...well who knows. I'm still waiting the politicians in Australia to be tried for war crimes, and as though thats going to happen LOL

I recall having a discussion in a thread here about how most of these people don't even know what they are doing and these soldiers are another case of that very nature.

Right on Soma.

My post was moderated.

Well well

See you guys later ;)

Soma, the post above about Wickileaks was my first post in a few hours, and today I was called again by the CIA front company called The Southern Poverty Law Center, and they ask for a family member that does not exist?


They are playing their games again with me as well as others, like moderating your post.

This was the third time they have called me. Twice last year, in December once and November once, but since I posted about the video killing of the civilians now they call again.

Trying to intimidate.

They were talking about this on a msm talk show today. So I was interested in watching it.

It was just a video game to the cowards in the helicoptors. Can we shoot ? Can we shoot ?

I hope all are brought to justice. Why the hell are they there anyway? It is no wonder there is so much hatred toward the US army.

Driving over top of the dead body was a nice touch.

Hang on a minute, WTF, what is going on guys, what do you mean your post was moderated Soma.

You know I am impatient WTF is going on here, where was your post moderated on this bloody forum S, is that what your saying.

micjer wrote:

They were talking about this on a msm talk show today. So I was interested in watching it.

It was just a video game to the cowards in the helicoptors. Can we shoot ? Can we shoot ?

I hope all are brought to justice. Why the hell are they there anyway? It is no wonder there is so much hatred toward the US army.

Driving over top of the dead body was a nice touch.

Yes they are cowards and killers. The age group with the video game mentality that is so dominant in our culture here in America these days. It is a shame what they did, and I agree they should be prosecuted mic.

this is a test for me .... i run it through all my filters
and come up just plain sad, my heart aches for humanity
but i am conscious of being in the right place and doing the right thing
for my self as i send energy strength to anyone who is scared
or in distress.....
what else can i do?

i can't watch it..but on the news today they were showing it..i saw a few seconds ..omg...i agree with you hippie..extrmely sad and no wonder why americans are hated..by the actions of a small amount of them..
i also know a few of the guys coming back..after three tours..and wanting to get out soo bacdly..and not able to
there is a lot of anger


hippie..i think all we can do, we are doing by holding as much joy and good energy as we can
we aren't ignoring or unknowing..we are just choosing to hold a different energy
as i work in the dirt..i am as joyful as i can be and send that energy out hoping to make a difference
somehow



and Soma

please expain the moderation thing

Does Soma mean that tptb came in here and moderated his post, cause that's what I got from it, surely not, surely not.

Wikileaks may not be what you think it is...

Quote :

Please note that I am only speculating here based on my recent personal experience.

I have some material that I may be interested in having published, and made public at some point. After seeing the successful publishing of the recent Iraq video I thought this could be an opportunity I hadn't considered.

I can't discus that material now, so please don't ask.

Using s secure computer at a secure location I used this contact/submission form...

secure.wikileaks.org...

I sent two files, a very brief edited video, and a text file.

Almost immediately the computer I was using froze up, and after giving up was forced to shut down.

Then I began to wonder, the recent video release, everything we know about wikileaks... And what we don't know.

What if this is all a scam to get people who may have sensitive or secret information to send it in?

They couldn't have set a better trap, if that is the case.

It all seems a bit too convenient to me now, and I can think of no better way that the intelligence community could set up a front to attract people with information the government wants eliminated or suppressed.

Maybe this was all staged to accomplish that goal?

Maybe wikileaks isn't what we think it is.

There is too much we don't know, and in my case that is disappointing, and a bit worrisome. If I had sent more than the 2 files I did, I would be even more worried.

What do you think of the possibilities here?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread559051/pg1

this sounds so totally plausible
They couldn't have set a better trap

there is a lot of info out there..scattered about..what better way to draw in some who want to share
thinking they would be safe..

yep
totally plausible

Maybe I needed more sleep :(

I could swear I posted a name in my post. Meh

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The sad part regarding wikileaks is how its branded around as a be all source.

I've found some incredible info through my work whic i shared with others who shared just as incredible material. Troops being bad is to be expected really.

I don't see Australians up in arms about this incident of dis-respect sadly :(

Mic,

Wickileaks may not be what it seems, I agree as that could be true of several other places as well.

After I posted the wickileaks video I got a CIA phone call. This in and of itself does not bother me as I don't fear them.

Also I heard above top secret could be a bad site, as John Lear had been on that site for some time and he had a falling out with them over something, and he left the site.

I later heard John Lear speak about Above Top Secret as it is suspect to him????

These days who knows, the internet is becoming more and more controlled all the time.

Yesterday I went to godlikeproductions, and was told I was banned???????

I don't remember ever posting there about anything???

Why would I be banned from a site I never posted on?

I do know that after posting the wickileaks video, the CIA called me?

That is a fact.

Could it be that the wickileaks site is a place set up by the CIA in order to catch peoples ISP addresses that might be looking at anti government stuff???

Could the site be for the desensitizing of people of killing civilians? Could be also?

The problem is we just don't know? But it is good to be suspicious of everything we are not sure of.

If the Wickileaks site is a counterintelligence site it is a brilliant concept, and that is exactly what the CIA does with their cointel works.

Good analogy for CIA = Criminals In Action (although I am sure some white hats have infiltrated as well).

ASIO - Above Secret Idiots Office.

FBI - Funding Bullies Incorporated or Financing Bullies Inc.

MI5 - Mercenaries Incorporated x 5.

FDA - Financial Department of Airheads.

Not that I want to upset the white hats that could be in there trying to help.

There must be more out there - any others I forgot guys.

This is a nice summary about wikileaks used as a false flag operation for internet cencorship

http://www.infowars.com/wikileaks-a-big-dangerous-us-government-con-job-2/

Wikileaks: A Big Dangerous US Government Con Job

F. William Engdahl
VoltaireNet.org
December 21, 2010

The story on the surface makes for a script for a new Oliver Stone Hollywood thriller. A 39-year old Australian hacker holds the President of the United States and his State Department hostage to a gigantic cyber “leak,” unless the President leaves Julian Assange and his Wikileaks free to release hundreds of thousands of pages of sensitive US Government memos. A closer look at the details, so far carefully leaked by the most ultra-establishment of international media such as the New York Times, reveals a clear agenda. That agenda coincidentally serves to buttress the agenda of US geopolitics around the world from Iran to Russia to North Korea. The Wikileaks is a big and dangerous US intelligence Con Job which will likely be used to police the Internet.

It is almost too perfectly-scripted to be true. A discontented 22-year old US Army soldier on duty in Baghdad, Bradley Manning, a low-grade US Army intelligence analyst, described as a loner, a gay in the military, a disgruntled “computer geek,” sifts through classified information at Forward Operating Base Hammer. He decides to secretly download US State Department email communications from the entire world over a period of eight months for hours a day, onto his blank CDs while pretending to be listening to Lady Gaga. In addition to diplomatic cables, Manning is believed to have provided WikiLeaks with helicopter gun camera video of an errant US attack in Baghdad on unarmed journalists, and with war logs from Iraq and Afghanistan.
Manning then is supposed to have tracked down a notorious former US computer hacker to get his 250,000 pages of classified US State Department cables out in the Internet for the whole world to see. He allegedly told the US hacker that the documents he had contained “incredible, awful things that belonged in the public domain and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington, DC.” The hacker turned him in to US authorities so the story goes. Manning is now incommunicado since months in US military confinement so we cannot ask him, conveniently. The Pentagon routinely hires the best hackers to design their security systems.
Then the plot thickens. The 250,000 pages end up at the desk of Julian Assange, the 39-year-old Australian founder of a supposedly anti-establishment website with the cute name Wikileaks. Assange decides to selectively choose several of the world’s most ultra-establishment news media to exclusively handle the leaking job for him as he seems to be on the run from Interpol, not for leaking classified information, but for allegedly having consensual sex with two Swedish women who later decided it was rape.

He selects as exclusive newspapers to decide what is to be leaked the New York Times which did such service in promoting faked propaganda against Saddam that led to the Iraqi war, the London Guardian and Der Spiegel. Assange claims he had no time to sift through so many pages so handed them to the trusted editors of the establishment media for them to decide what should be released. Very “anti-establishment” that. The New York Times even assigned one of its top people, David E. Sanger, to control the release of the Wikileaks material. Sanger is no establishment outsider. He sits as a member of the elite Council on Foreign Relations as well as the Aspen Institute Strategy Group together with the likes of Condi Rice, former Defense Secretary William Perry, former CIA head John Deutch, former State Department Deputy Secretary and now World Bank head Robert Zoellick among others.
Indeed a strange choice of media for a person who claims to be anti-establishment. But then Assange also says he believes the US Government version of 9/11 and calls the Bilderberg Group a normal meeting of people, a very establishment view.
Not so secret cables…
The latest sensational Wikileaks documents allegedly from the US State Department embassies around the world to Washington are definitely not as Hillary Clinton claimed “an attack on America’s foreign policy interests that have endangered innocent people.” And they do not amount to what the Italian foreign minister, called the “September 11 of world diplomacy.” The British government calls them a threat to national security and an aide to Canada’s Prime Minister calls on the CIA to assassinate Assange, as does kooky would-be US Presidential hopeful Sarah Palin.

Most important, the 250,000 cables are not “top secret” as we might have thought. Between two and three million US Government employees are cleared to see this level of “secret” document,[1] and some 500,000 people around the world have access to the Secret Internet Protocol Network (SIPRnet) where the cables were stored. Siprnet is not recommended for distribution of top-secret information. Only 6% or 15,000 pages of the documents have been classified as even secret, a level below top-secret. Another 40% were the lowest level, “confidential”, while the rest were unclassified. In brief, it was not all that secret.[2]

Most of the revelations so far have been unspectacular. In Germany the revelations led to the removal of a prominent young FDP politician close to Guido Westerwelle who apparently liked to talk too much to his counterpart at the US Embassy. The revelations about Russian politics, that a US Embassy official refers to Putin and Medvedev as “Batman and Robin,” tells more about the cultural level of current US State Department personnel than it does about internal Russian politics.
But for anyone who has studied the craft of intelligence and of disinformation, a clear pattern emerges in the Wikileaks drama. The focus is put on select US geopolitical targets, appearing as Hillary Clinton put it “to justify US sanctions against Iran.” They claim North Korea with China’s granting of free passage to Korean ships despite US State Department pleas, send dangerous missiles to Iran. Saudi Arabia’s ailing King Abdullah reportedly called Iran’s President a Hitler.
Excuse to police the Internet?
What is emerging from all the sound and Wikileaks fury in Washington is that the entire scandal is serving to advance a long-standing Obama and Bush agenda of policing the until-now free Internet. Already the US Government has shut the Wikileaks server in the United States though no identifiable US law has been broken.
The process of policing the Web was well underway before the current leaks scandal. In 2009 Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller and Republican Olympia Snowe introduced the Cybersecurity Act of 2009 (S.773). It would give the President unlimited power to disconnect private-sector computers from the internet. The bill “would allow the president to ‘declare a cyber-security emergency’ relating to ‘non-governmental’ computer networks and do what’s necessary to respond to the threat.” We can expect that now this controversial piece of legislation will get top priority when a new Republican House and the Senate convene in January.

The US Department of Homeland Security, an agency created in the political hysteria following 9/11 2001 that has been compared to the Gestapo, has already begun policing the Internet. They are quietly seizing and shutting down internet websites (web domains) without due process or a proper trial. DHS simply seizes web domains that it wants to and posts an ominous “Department of Justice” logo on the web site. See an example at http://torrent-finder.com. Over 75 websites were seized and shut in a recent week. Right now, their focus is websites that they claim “violate copyrights,” yet the torrent-finder.com website that was seized by DHS contained no copyrighted content whatsoever. It was merely a search engine website that linked to destinations where people could access copyrighted content. Step by careful step freedom of speech can be taken away. Then what?
Notes:

1. BBCNews, Siprnet: Where the leaked cables came from, 29 November, 2010, accessed in http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11863618

2. Ken Dilanian, Inside job: Stolen diplomatic cables show U.S. challenge of stopping authorized users, Los Angeles Times, November 29, 2010, accessed in http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sc-dc-1130-hackers-20101129,0,6716809.story

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Hit a nerve there Gabe!!!!