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| Subject: Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad? Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:05 pm | |
| Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad?
Dream catchers have inundated the marketplace. BUT, if you want to buy or collect, you have to know the history, the primary tribe crafting these and what to look for.
What Dream Catchers Do...
It's dark. The night air is filled with dreams...good and bad! A dream catcher is hanging close to the cradle or bed, swaying in the night breezes. Dreams must pass through it to get to the sleeper. Bad ones get tangled in the web, but the good ones know how to pass through the center hole and glide down the feathers. The morning sun shines on it and the bad dreams caught in its web "expire".
Info snippet: Did you know... The dream catcher originated with the Ojibway (Chippewa) tribe.
These "charms" of twigs, sinew, and feathers have been woven since ancient times by Ojibwe (Chippewa) people. They were woven by the parents or grandparents for newborn children and hung above the cradleboard to allow the infants peaceful, beautiful dreams. The Ojibway would tie either sinew or nettle-stalk cord dyed red in a web around a small, red willow round frame, decorated with feathers and beads, then hang it protect their sleeping children. There are eight (8) connections from the center to the hoop - a spider has 8 legs. There are also examples of catchers having seven (7) for the Seven Prophecies. The slightest movement of the feathers would indicate the passage of another beautiful dream.
It was traditional to put a feather in the center; it means breath or air - essential for life. The baby would be entertained watching the feather, but he/she would also learn that air is essential for life. The feathers used are different between boys and girls - the woman's feather is from the owl, signifying widsom. The eagle feather is for courage - a man's feather. Native Americans are very specific about gender roles and identity.
Info snippet: Did you know... Dream catchers for infants generally dry out - they are not meant to last, just like youth is temporary.
Dreams catchers crafted today may have 4 stones/gems rather than the feathers - some species are protected. The four gem stones represent the four directions. Finally, adult dream catchers do not use feathers.
The earliest dream catchers were called Sacred Hoops. The circle is sacred to the Native Americans - it is the shape of the earth, the sun, the moon and life. It is a symbol of strength and unity. To carry that spiritual theme forward, the dream catcher's basic shape is a circle or hoop the web is woven around.
Starting in the 1960's and 1970's, dream catchers became popular with other Native American tribes. They came to be seen by some as a symbol of unity and as a general symbol of identification with Native American or First Nations (Canadian) cultures.
Info snippet: Did you know... Recently, Native Americans have come to see dream catchers as "tacky" and over-commercialized?
The following is another view of how dreams interact with dream catchers. This legend is from the Lakota tribe.
Legend of the Dream Catcher, Lakota Legend - From the Wounded Knee School, Manderson, South Dakota
Long ago when the world was young, an old Lakota spiritual leader was on a high mountain and had a vision. In his vision, Iktomi, the great trickster and teacher of wisdom, appeared in the form of a spider. Iktomi spoke to him in a sacred language that only the spiritual leaders of the Lakota could understand. As he spoke Iktomi, the spider, took the elder's willow hoop which had feathers, horse hair, beads and offerings on it and began to spin a web.
He spoke to the elder about the cycles of life . . . and how we begin our lives as infants and we move on to childhood, and then to adulthood. Finally, we go to old age where we must be taken care of as infants, completing the cycle. "But," Iktomi said as he continued to spin his web, "in each time of life there are many forces -- some good and some bad. If you listen to the good forces, they will steer you in the right direction. But if you listen to the bad forces, they will hurt you and steer you in the wrong direction." He continued, "There are many forces and different directions that can help or interfere with the harmony of nature, and also with the Great Spirit and all of his wonderful teachings."
All the while the spider spoke, he continued to weave his web starting from the outside and working towards the center.
When Iktomi finished speaking, he gave the Lakota elder the web and said . . . "See, the web is a perfect circle but there is a hole in the center of the circle. Use the web to help yourself and your people to reach your goals and make good use of your people's ideas, dreams and visions. If you believe in the Great Spirit, the web will catch your good ideas -- and the bad ones will go through the hole."
The Lakota elder passed on his vision to his people and now the Sioux Indians use the dream catcher as the web of their life. It is hung above their beds or in their home to sift their dreams and visions. The good in their dreams is captured in the web of life and carried with them . . . but the evil in their dreams escapes through the hole in the center of the web and is no longer a part of them. They believe that the dream catcher holds the destiny of their future. (From Sunrise magazine, October/November 1996. Copyright 1996 by Theosophical University Press.)
This page from NativeTech.org gives instructions on how to make your own dream catcher.
Dream-Catchers.org is all about dream catchers, the history, the legends from tribe to tribe, etc.
If Native American Indian items are are of interest for either buying or collecting, become familiar with them. Visit museums to study the various forms, materials, tribal affiliations and designs. Go to art shows that showcase Native American artisans. Antique shows are also a good venue - go through the booths of vendors selling these items. If they are passionate about what they have, they will answer your questions. And, of course, inter-tribal powwows are excellent venues to look and ask.
You can also go the The Indian Arts and Crafts Association for a listing of registered and certified Native American Artisans.
Above all, any art form being marketed as a genuine Native American handcrafted item must legally be just that. The spirit of the law is that any artwork or craft fashioned by a Native American, the artisan must be a member of an Indian Tribe, and their membership has been verified and certified.
These Native American artisans are practicing their art perhaps as a livelihood. And, through their art, they are keeping their culture, history and spirituality alive.
Native American Arts has free e-books covering the subjects of Collecting and Fraudulence that are excellent!
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Linda Senior Member
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| Subject: Re: Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad? Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:34 pm | |
| Thanks sweet sister. Just the other day, I was admiring a beautiful dream catcher a dear friend made for me over 25 years ago and was wondering what it really meant.
She explained why she used certain stones and feathers for me. Unfortunately I forgot everything and will now have to examine it more carefully. | |
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| Subject: Re: Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad? Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:49 pm | |
| wow...beautiful now you will have the joy of rediscovery! | |
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Gabriel Contributor
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| Subject: Re: Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad? Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:22 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad? Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:45 am | |
| I've seen some made in China out of chicken feathers.
Perhaps the New Agers should not mess around with First Nation Spirituality | |
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| Subject: Re: Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad? Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:46 pm | |
| - LongHunter wrote:
- I've seen some made in China out of chicken feathers.
Perhaps the New Agers should not mess around with First Nation Spirituality perhaps we could all learn something by "messing around" | |
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LongHunter Member
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| Subject: Re: Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad? Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:13 am | |
| - WineHippie wrote:
- LongHunter wrote:
- I've seen some made in China out of chicken feathers.
Perhaps the New Agers should not mess around with First Nation Spirituality perhaps we could all learn something by "messing around" Indeed we should. Why catch what has already been caught ? What's important is to keep those dreams. | |
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Gerardgeert Member
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| Subject: Re: Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad? Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:21 am | |
| Hey ya Day; I find this very interresting, as it has past my mind before. Why a Dreamcatcher, and howcome? And as often, i came up to a conflict. Just like now: - Quote :
- Dreams must pass through it to get to the sleeper. Bad ones get tangled in the web, but the good ones know how to pass through the center hole and glide down the feathers. The morning sun shines on it and the bad dreams caught in its web "expire".
Up against: - Quote :
- If you believe in the Great Spirit, the web will catch your good ideas -- and the bad ones will go through the hole.
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LongHunter Member
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| Subject: Re: Native American Dream Catchers - Good Dream or Bad? Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:57 am | |
| Personally I find them as just another way to stereotype all of the Indian People. We do not all burn sage. We do not use sweat lodges. We are not all of the Teepee living, painted pony riding, war bonnet wearing plains culture. We do not all have and use dream catchers. A Pamunkey friend of mine refered to this as the - Dances with Wolves syndrome.
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