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| Subject: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:40 pm | |
| In Pueblo religious practices, Kachina (also spelled Katsina) refers to three related things: * Supernatural entities or spirits capable of influencing the natural world. * The men of the tribe dressed and masked to represent the Kachinas in traditional dances/ceremonies. Their belief is that such dancers actually become the spirits they represent for the duration of the ceremony. Even though there are male and female Kachinas, only men can represent them. * In Hopi and Zuni tribes, masked dolls which represent Kachina spirits, made (by the Hopi) of cottonwood root or (by the Zuni) of pine. They are presented to the women and children of the tribe and are kept in the home as fetish objects. The Kachina are ancestral spirits which act as intermediaries between humans and the gods. The identity of each Kachina is depicted by the specific shape of the mask, intricate use of color, and elaborate ornamentation with feathers, leather, and fabric. Each Kachina is also portrayed using distinct behavior, dance steps, gestures, and vocalizations. Each kiva is home to a secret society which (generally) reveres a single Kachina. Members of the kiva take on the identity of the Kachina spirit they revere. Upon reaching puberty, young men in the Pueblo are inducted into a kiva, where they learn the secrets associated with that Kachina. Women are not members of kivas, although they are taught the mythology and religious practices in a more general way. Different Pueblo cultures adhere to their secrecy pledges to different degrees. The Hopi, for example, have allowed their religious dances to become tourist attractions and freely sell Kachina dolls and masks to non-Hopis. The Zunis, on the other hand, have traditionally been much more secretive about their religious practices. Over 300 different Kachinas have been identified across Pueblo cultures. Kachina - Zuni kachinas The Zuni believe that the Kachinas live in the Lake of the Dead, a mythical lake which is reached through Listening Spring Lake located at the junction of the Zuni River and the Little Colorado River. Kachina - Hopi kachinas Within Hopi mythology, the Kachinas are said to live on the San Francisco Peaks near Flagstaff, Arizona. The most important Hopi Kachinas are called wuya. source | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:00 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:06 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:16 pm | |
| Sun Kachina Also known as Tawa. The Sun Kachina is a representation of the spirit of the Sun, though he may on occasion be called the Sun Shield Kachina. He appears in a role very similar to that of Nakiachop or Talavai, standing to the side with a spruce tree in his left hand and a bell in his right. Also, he may appear in a Mixed Dance with the flute in his left hand that is associated with him in many myths www.firstpeople.uskachina.us | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:26 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:38 pm | |
| The Palhik Mana, or Butterfly Maiden, is one of the most popular kachinas in the Hopi carvers' repertoire. This beautifully dressed figure is not really a kachina, but rather a woman's dance personage. Women who appear in the Mamzrau Initiation Dance are called the Palhik' Manas. They are never masked except on Third Mesa, although they all appear to be when carved as dolls. The carvings typically include an elaborate tableta including butterfly and corn symbols. www.firstpeople.us | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:57 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:10 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:54 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:55 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:01 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:26 am | |
| As always day, breathtaking photos and artwork. Another link to ancient aliens. | |
| | | Linda Senior Member
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:31 am | |
| Day, this bear kachina was given to me 6 years by someone who is no longer in my life. Can you tell me anything about the true meaning of this spirit. Mine is much more fierce looking, sleek, with real hair down to the shoulders and I was told it was actually custom made for me. On the bottom the writing says it's a black bear with something else I can't make out. It's from Arizona. Thanks Black bear kachina The face actually looks more like this wolf kachina but without the pointed ears. | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:21 pm | |
| Hi Linda this is from snowwowl.com White Bear Kachina: Hon is usually distinguished only by color, such as White, Blue, Yellow or Black. All Bear Kachinas are believed to be very powerful, great warriors, and adept at curing illnesses. they give an email address so that the people at Kachina House can answer all questions If you can take a picture of the Kachina and email it to them with a description they will answer all your questions here is their email address info@kachinahouse.comhttp://www.snowwowl.com/naartkachinadescriptions.htm | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:29 pm | |
| Hon (Bear Kachina) Bear Kachinas are believed to be very powerful and like the Badger Kachina he is considered a great doctor for he possesses the knowledge of all the herbs and roots and there use to cure bad illness. He is also a great warrior. This painting depicts the Bear Kachina with their animal counterpart signifying their oneness in spirit. http://diannawolfe.com/sheo-kachinas.htmlhope this helps Linda! -day | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:33 pm | |
| What is a Kachina? To survive in a waterless land, the Hopi developed a complex religion to secure supernatural assistance in fulfilling their needs. Kachinas are the spirit essence of everything in the real world. Their essence is inferred from the steam which rises from food and whose loss does not change the form of the food, to the mist rising from a spring on a cold morning or the cloud which forms above the mountaintop. Kachinas are not deities, but supernatural beings who dwell in an invisible world until the are given form in the parallel human world. At appointed times during the winter, spring and summer, Hopi Men from age 10 don elaborate costumes and masks to impersonate their kachina counterparts. In the process, the kachina is believed to inhabit its human representative. There are more than 200 kachina characters who possess characteristics of real life personalities or repesent plants or animals. The ceremony offers the children a real-life connection with the kachina spirits. Kachinas give the little girls kachina dolls as a remembrance of the ceremony and to help her remember the messages of the kachinas. Carved from the roots of the cottonwood tree (the roots are what draws life-giving moisture), Kachinas can be classified in the following partial list: Ogres of many types: Discipline the community and naughty children (teacher's favorite) Bears and badgers: Best at healing(doctor's favorite) Eagle: A protector Animals: Many are hunters - also healers Warriors : Ewiro, Ahote, and many, many others Clowns: Koshari, Hano clowns, Koyemsi (mudheads), etc. Chief : Eototo and Aholi, his lieutenant Plants, birds, characters of other tribes (to draw thier powers), etc. source | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:50 pm | |
| Thanks. My darn camera is broken and will have to get a new one. My Navajo kachina is a black bear with a circle on his chest and one on the back with 4 white dots surrounding one dot in the center. I know it means something because I saw it once in my dreams and also had a vision of it while looking at the sky. I will open up another thread to discuss it further regarding crop circles and my connection to 4's so I won't hijack your great thread. Here is what the dots looks like. All I know is that I was told it was meant for me to keep in my house. Here is some information I found about these 4 dots. Sandpainted Mandalas in the figures below we reproduce a few of the lavishly colored sandpainted mandalas of the Navajos, as well as the even more perfect ones of the Hindus and the Tibetans. For reasons of space, we are limited to presenting only a couple of such mandalas. Fig. 2 (a and b) shows the Place of Emergence of the Navajos as the Central Mountain surrounded by the Four Subsidiary Centers (also consisting of mountains or islands). These five mountains are the same as those visited by the Twins, as described further above. The four piled-up triangles at the four corners represent the succession of the Four Eras of Humanity, with the fifth being the central one. The five peaks also correspond to the Five Ages of Hesiod, with the fifth and virtual one, the Age of the Heroes, the one which corresponds to Atlantis, represented at the center. Note that the structure in quincunx is typical of the Holy Mountain Meru in Hindu traditions which are of an extreme antiquity. As such, it represents the world with its five continents: the central one at the center (Atlantis), and the four others at the Four Cardinal Directions. This structure also represents Atlantis' capital city, itself shaped similarly as a replica of the world, as described by Plato. This type of structure with its quincunx geometry and its three-tiered structure is found in Angkor, and is typical of the temples and pyramids of Southeast Asia. But it is found in temples and similar monuments all over the ancient world, for instance in mosques and in St. Sophia Cathedral, in Istambul (Turkey), the former Constantinople which was the capital of the Roman Empire of the East. These structures all represent replicas of the world and its Holy Mountain everywhere. To find this sophisticate symbolism in the Americas is a surprise, as this unequivocally proves that the symbolism dates from before the end of the Pleistocene, when Old World cultures got separated from those of the New World, according to the present views of academic archaeologists. How the primitives of Paleolithic times could have developed such a sophisticate, accurate view of the cosmos is, in our view, a mystery that can only be explained by the hypothesis of Atlantis. What else? Fig. 2(c) - Navajo Sandpainted Mandalas (click to enlarge)Fig. 3(a) - Some Traditional Hindu Mandalas (click to enlarge)The Hesiodic theme of the Four (or Five) Eras (or Ages) of Humanity again derives from the four Hindu Yugas (or Eras). But the motif of the four ages of mankind is also widespread all over the Americas, as we show in other works on the subject. And peoples such as the Mayas and the Aztecs also divided the cosmos into four corners, more or less like the Hindus and others in the Old World. Even the four colors attributed to these four directions — white, yellow, red, black — exactly correspond to the Hindu ones. And they, of course, also correspond to the four types or "colors" of humans, as is easy to see. The staggered triangles of the Navajo mandala represent the same symbolism as those of the famous Shri Yantra mandala of the Hindus. They represent, as shown in Fig. 3, the sequential Creations of the successive eras emanating like waves from the Primordial Center. The two bindus, white and red, at the center of the Shri Yantra are Shiva and Shakti, representing the two original races of Atlantis, whites and Reds. The explanations given in Hindu sources are of course highly esoteric, and are accessible to the initiates only. As an example, we quote the Kamakalavilasa: "The two bindus [of the Shri Yantra], white and red, are Shiva and Shakti, who in their secret mutual enjoyment are now expanding and now contracting... the Sun is Kama, which is so called because of its desirableness; and Kala is the two bindus which are Moon and Fire". Kama, the fiery love god of the Hindus, is of course the same as Cham, the patriarch of the Chamites which would later engender the red races, as explained further above. The white, lunar principle represents the white races. And their endless "love making" indeed represents the eternal wars of Dravidas and Aryo-Semites, wherever they meet each other. The Vamakeshvaratantra gives a further gloss on the Shri Yantra: "Dear One, Tripura is the ultimate, primordial Shakti, the light of manifestation. She, the pile of letters of the alphabet, gave birth to the three worlds. At dissolution, She is the abode of all tattvas, still remaining Herself". Tripura, and the myth of its destruction is famous in Hindu sacred traditions. Tripura, "the Triple City", is Atlantis itself which, as Plato explains, was also triple. Here it is said to be the first, primordial source of all things (shakti = yoni = "womb, vagina"). The "light of manifestation" and the reference to the "cosmic womb" allude to the volcano's caldera which engulfed it. The "pile of letters" refers to the fact that the alphabet was invented there. The triplicity of Tripura and of Atlantis, refers to the three races and to the fact that she was the civilization of the Third Era. This was the Treta Yuga, the one before ours, the Kali Yuga. When Tripura was dissolved (destroyed, at the end of the yuga), she became the abode of Truth (Tattva). But, of course, this Truth is hidden, and has to be discovered by oneself, through initiation, as it concerns the secret doctrines on Atlantis-Eden. Fig. 3(b) - Some Traditional Hindu Mandalas (click to enlarge)In Navajo sandpaintings, the four subsidiary Holy Mountains placed at the Four Cardinal Directions are often substituted by their Four Guardians. These four are often figured as snakes or birds, their symbolic equivalents. These Guardians are usually colored, and the respective heraldic colors are White, Yellow, Red or Blue, and Black, with the fifth, Pink, included at times. The four colors are those of the Sun's House, which is the Central Mountain and combines all four colors in either stripes, dots or superpositions. In reality, they are the colours of the four races of humans, as we said above. The four snaky Guardians are the exact counterparts of what the Hindus call the Four Nagas ("Snake Guardians" or "Dragons"). In India too these guardians — called Lokapalas, and represented by snakes or dragons — are often symbolized by their four mountain peaks, completing the quincunx centered around Mt. Meru. Anyone who pauses to ponder on such exact coincidences cannot, we believe, come to a different conclusion than that they indeed originated in India and Indonesia and, more exactly, in Atlantis and Lemuria. What else? | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:08 pm | |
| thats fantastic Linda....I have some pictures of the Navajo or Dine'h doing sand painting...a very sacred custom
the Hopi too have four white circles on their medicine wheel....
looking forward to your thread!! | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:09 pm | |
| Linda do you have a link for the info? that would be great! thanks | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:12 pm | |
| Sandpainting Ceremony | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:35 pm | |
| I sent you an email sister. Love you | |
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| Subject: Re: Star Nation Teachings - Kachinas Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:05 pm | |
| - Linda wrote:
- I sent you an email sister. Love you
ok...love ya sister | |
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