Beyond language and other projects

Guest Number of posts : 361 Registration date : 2009-01-28

The purpose of this forum to me is to build a support base that is a space on the net that can do the following things:

*Communicate with each other effectively
*Find out more about each other.
*Bring any news and sources to light that might prove useful for the truthmovement.
-These sources can be anything from world affairs to information on spirituality (most of the subjects covered on this forum)

Now that I clearly understand the 3 main purposes for me being here. Just some of the benifits of those objectives that I think would result:

1)More respect, unity, strength, and love for each other
2)More understanding about where we are heading in the future
3)More informed and empowered spiritually

Here is the main project on the forum that I want to start I want to call it beyond language. I think language is of one the main barriers to communication. The reason being that we do not communicate creatively enough to understand exactly about the other person without pre-conceived notions. The highest language of the soul comes from a different mode of communication. Which is what our subconscious present to us in dreams. The language of dreams is how we should communicate to each other.

:D :)

:!: <----these are another aspect of communication. We do not have to restrict our self to letters. But also ^&$($&*($ symbols. We can make our own definition of symbols up and create all sorts of things. Following the white rabbit is symbolic of following creation. Being creative is a main form of adapting to change and solving problems.

I see everything as part of myself and I'm not just saying that. Sports such as golf I see as very selfish and dull sports because what is it about? Getting your ball in the hole. What is so fun about it when all anyone really cares about is getting their particular ball in the whole. It's an entirely self absorbed state of being. It's difficult to play the game and care at the same time about someone else's ball or game. The game is structured in such a way that you are entirely focused on you're own ball. And that's not only dull but separative.

The game chess is different again. Which it's more interactive. You are against the other person so it is again a win lose game. I'm not saying golf or chess is necessarily dull but it's dynamics are putting your focus in a certain state. For example in chess it's a battle with a winner and a loser. Mostly in all sports or games this is the case. Games like football and expanding more into teamwork play. Chess uses teamwork but the team is controlled by your own mind. In football and basket ball you have teams which now must co-operate with each other. But again it's a win lose game.

Is there any example of a game that is a win win game that requires teamwork?

This is why our focus is not in the correct state. If we indulged ourself in a game where it's win win and requires teamwork that is a state which aligns with nature that is the most superior. This state of being is how the cells in your body function to keep you alive.

Sickness comes from incorrect focus.

How I see the truthmovement is as a win win game that involves teamwork. Evolution.

So what is an example of a win win game with teamwork? If you consider playing in a band a game that could be one. Also making a movie. But what about in sport? I can't think of any. So we should take the challenge of making one up.

So this is my main focus for any interested.
-Beyond language
-Creating a superior sport

Why? Because this would initiate us into a superior state of being that would allow true progress to take place within a community. We would be more creative, more disciplined, and more in touch with each other. This would lead to many benifits to numerous to mention.

Subject: Re: Beyond language and other projects Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:40 pm

When a postive enhancing environment is set-up for like minded souls to connect and focus amazing possibilities will manifest. This support structure will blossom and be an example of how the vibrational energy of love will conquer all.

We have forged together to remember..wanderers attract wanderers. This is an exciting time to be alive! It hasn't been an easy process to get where we are now however adversities will always present itself, that is always a sign we are on the right track to fulfillment. Opposite polarities oscilating between what we percieve as good and evil make up our experience and reality to remember and gain focus of our true potenial.

Subject: Re: Beyond language and other projects Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:59 pm

dean i´m glad youare here !!!!! this is a brilliant idea............

the three purposes that you mentioned is the reason this forum was created..........

i am excited to be part of this project !!!!!

ya know robert anton wilson used to say that if you drop certian words from your vocabulary for instance the word "is" and replacing it with may be or seems or could be .....our lives , the way we comunicate, and the way we think would transform.........

maybe we could make this our first step..........of our jorney.............. :bunnyb:

i have found this video of him ......it gives a breif explanation.........

Subject: Re: Beyond language and other projects Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:49 am

Dean,

Lets try an intention experiment. Gather as many souls together in a test on this site at a particular time and influence some event or weather problem somewhere or try to stop a bad piece of legislation from being passed or cause termites to eat the fema camps? LOL

Guest Number of posts : 361 Registration date : 2009-01-28

Gabriel only if we all become like Moses. Than as a group possibly.

Not saying that it's impossible but it takes a certain mastery to be able to influence the timeline to that degree. We aren't there yet. That's not our grade. It's like a child saying lets fly off the rooftops we can fly. Yeah no doubt it's possible theoretically but the faith needs to be extreme and devoted 100%. You can't get that kind of faith without intense devotion and conviction and utter belief. Which comes from a very high conscious awareness.

Little steps at a time. We definitely are not ready as a group to do that. But the idea is genuine you would just get disillusioned if we tried it without the right preparation.

Guest Number of posts : 361 Registration date : 2009-01-28

Here's an Update

Current forum objectives.

-Introduction of language covered with basics of sacred geometry, common known symbols and introducing the tarot and numbers is done best I could. References have been made to the significance and purpose of it. But this process takes time for it to be integrated and requires a motivation to be educated and advance oneself enough to understand what it is and the importance of it all. There is many books and resources the purpose was not to teach it. But to simply make reference to it as important. A more clear explanation about how this language relates to our spiritual evolution and the part if plays may need to be elaborated. It seems to me people are not going to take the initiative to take time out to study it seriously as they don't see how it relates to improving their life or what significance it has. If anyone is literate in this language they should let me know!

-The win win game
This has being on hold as I have being over run with other things. I don't really have the resources to make something that amazing but I can start the process of discussing ideas, which I plan is the next step for this project.

Other things on the forum to help us.
I've decided not to post a health section in my area but keep all my posts on health and well being in the other section where everyone else is discussing it. Seems to make more sense that way.

About transitioning into the new paradigm.

The purpose of this thread is to discuss and focus on the current collective perspective of the community on the forum and also individually to help progress it forward to the highest standard that is possible with everyones highest understanding contributing hopefully. It should be a reflection of the forums collective awareness and perspective.

Next section I will be focusing on is similar to the changing lyrics thread that involves the power of poetry and how ideas and philosophy are key to understanding very real aspects of ourself and other entities dimensions in the universe.

About media illumination top 10
This thread is very artistic based. Combing film and music to create a certain meditation session and particular insight. Normally we don't see film and music as meditation sessions. But actually what this is is a meditation on the meanings of each video. It mostly involves subtle insights that are unable to be expressed through other means. So there is different levels to the insight in each video that are unveiled through meditation on the meaning of them. If people ever feel a need to discuss what they get out of it if anything. I may need to create another thread for that later and they are going to be changing here and there when I insert new ones. A few are very straightforward information speeches not something particularly cryptic. other are more intuitive based and less dominated by the logic mind.

The other thread involves visual practices commonly known as optical illusions. This however is involving more than an optical illusion but also reveals aspects of our consiousness that we would otherwise have no way of experiencing and finding out about.

And ofcourse this thread is just to track and state how everything else is going.
Yes I've had some run ins with people I have known for a while. We have some paradigm clashing going on but nothing terribly disruptive. Mainly the conflict stems from things getting in my way. A lack of tolerance for particular views and a lack of understanding in some cases. But I am learning to improve on that balancing it more and more.

Let me just say that if anything is said or done on the forum I don't agree with I will flat out react to it, and I have that right. Sometimes it can seem harsh or not depending on what was said or done in relation to how I see things.

Guest Number of posts : 361 Registration date : 2009-01-28

Changed my mind and deleted a few threads. I've done my fair share of networking for now. Attracted a few new members.

I'm going to see a psychiatrist. I'd like to stay in touch with Zuni as I go...

As for the projects well the foundations are set. Now comes a waiting period.

Subject: Re: Beyond language and other projects Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:03 am

dean......gosh......do you really think you need a psychiatrist ????? the are some of the most fucked up people on the planet..........if my advice counts for anything.......DO NOT GO TO A SCYCHIATRIST !!!! dean they work for a curupt system.......they try to medicate people.......and make them numb.......listin i only know you from your posts but i do not feel that that is the way for you to go.......i´m very worried about this......these psychiatrist don´t know their as from a hole in the ground.......i know first hand........

dean we all go through rough times where we think we might be loosing it......but shrinks are NEVER the answer for people like us........next thing ya know you´ll be waling around like another one of their sheep.......of course if you talk to a shrink they´ll be more then happy to come up with a lable and a pill for you to swallow.......psychiatrist are first hand agents of the nwo.......remember who teaches them how and what to think...........they are also puppets for big pharma........

dean you are a special person.....and you question everything......that is a good quality......but a shrink will steal that away from you........i believe in you.....and i belive that if you go inside you can rely on your higher self to help you.......and guide you........your way better off spending time alone with yourself..........your soul knows what you need........not someone with a fancy degree that is full of shit.......if you were like everyone else you would be boring........lol.....

please please rething your dision.......you have friends here dean.......it shows in the new members that you have recrutied.........thank you for being you dean.........you have my e-mail if you need anythin...........but i hope you don´t go........ hugv

:love-061:

Subject: Re: Beyond language and other projects Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:41 am

dean.....i just wanted to make it clear that you are more then welcome to speak freely here about any worries you have.....i for one will suport you in anyway i can........i´m worried about you.......i don´t want you to turn yourself into the curupted system so they can try to make you fit into the box......lol.....

Subject: Re: Beyond language and other projects Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:50 am

Dean, Zuni is right. A psychiatrist is never the answer. They are partly to blame for what has happened to our society.

Sometimes we just need to be alone and think in a quiet place to sort it all out. Ask the Creator to give you the strength and to help you.

Try to relax and only listen to your own thoughts. Chase away any messages that you are getting. Demand that they leave you alone.
You can do it.

Subject: Re: Beyond language and other projects Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:03 am

Hi Dean,
I'm sorry to hear you are getting it tough mate. I do think you have made the right decision
in regards talking to someone. Whether or not that person is a psychiatrist or a counsellor, I am not qualified to say. Sometimes a trusted friend can be just as valuable, but talk you must.
If it's a person, an event or something is making you angry or confused.., sit down and write
a letter to that person, or whatever, and put down on paper what your feelings are. Call them
or it all the bastards under the sun, let it rip.., get stuck in! Have a pillow beside you to punch, don't hold back. Let the feckers have it!
When you've calmed down a bit.., say a prayer for them/it and ask for peace of mind.
Burn the letter and with it the anger......., then take a nice gentle walk.
Your humility in seeking help is a credit to you, you have certainly gone up in my estimation and I wish you all the best. Don't take things too seriously, we don't have to solve the worlds problems..just our own.

You have friends on here you can talk to, use them.
Take care my friend,
Tom.

Subject: Re: Beyond language and other projects Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:55 pm

I strongly advice not to confide with a psychiatrist. Their solution will be be medication, antidepressants like prozac and zoloft and other pharmaceutical drugs kills all spiritual extensions.

A suggestion would be a visit to an energetic healer, if you have to travel to Brisbane or the next closest town do it. They will realise any attachments that aren't your own.

Guest Number of posts : 361 Registration date : 2009-01-28

It's ok I know there is many crappy psychiatrist. But I think I may be able to get some insight out of a decent one.....If not nothing lost. I'm concentrating very heavily on getting correct diet and health in best condition possible. . I just want to see what they think about how I am seeing things. Studying for years and being an expert in that field can be an advantage if they are not completely brainwashed but integrated it with their spirituality one of the good ones that likes helping people they can possible give their own personal view on it which would benefit if I found the right person. I can tell straight away who is closed minded in dogma with the prescriptions compared to who is more interested in life.

I'm never submitting to mediation of any kind. And I'm not going to accept something I know doesn't fit. I'm not going down that self destructive path.

But I have gone within myself and this is what has made me edgy. Cause too much truth in large doses that you aren't ready for can be uncomfortable and fear inducing because you are not mature enough to handle and adjust quick enough to it. Many have gone crazy because of that and I don't want to be one of those unbalance people.

The main thing is I am becoming lucid more in dreams and my waking life is starting to seem more like a dream. Several times I have got out of bed and there is no transition between feeling asleep and I realize oh this is a dream. Then I wake up, get up. Oh this is a dream again. But the transitions are merging to the point where there is little difference. And I get messages like something out of that movie eagle eye. And "the knowing" Like yesterday I looked straight ahead and there is this digital sign lit up "open your case" like talking straight directly to me. It's turned into something that is a bit uncomfortable. Seeing things in this way....

Quote :: It really doesn't matter unless you come from a loving wholeness!

This quote is so true.......

If I listed all the strange things that happened this thread would be 10 pages long. I am talking about it here often as I can but also need to talk to someone who studied these things that I judge as an expert. The thing is finding them.

I'll be ok but this is just something I need to do now. An energetic healer is also a good option I might take that advice and get their view on it.

I trust you all to keep this forum what it is and look after people here. And I'll continue to contribute what I can.