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PostSubject: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2009 12:13 am

guess this goes here...
very good, an ace reporter/journalist GREG PALAST
highly recommended

Big Easy to Big Empty (1 of 3)

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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2009 2:28 pm

I wanted to post to this yesterday but my keyboard was toast! Finally replaced it.

I never knew that the White House was aware of the levi breaks before residents were informed, that's outrageous! Thank you for posting this. I'd watched CNN during the ordeal and never remember that ever being mentioned. The atrocities are just coming out about the handling of this disaster I fear.
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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2009 8:21 pm

My dear friend k.t. Frankovich exposed the horrors of FEMA and the lies of the government during the Hurricane Andrew event. She still suffers today and has been harrassed ever since then.

She comes from the same family in the film business behind the classics Bridge over the River Kwai, Exodus, Purple Rain, Kojak, There is a Girl in My Soup, Butterflies are Free. She holds the coveted Gold Venus(also awarded to Steven Spielberg, George Lucas) and is a psychic PSI Tested by the Rhine Institute and leading world parapsychologists.

She wrote a book called 'Where Heavens Meet' about being homeless on the streets of Miami with her 13 year-old son, and how she survived the largest natural Disaster ever recorded in the history of the United States. She delves into the mysteries of life and exposes the truth behind tragic disasters misreported or not reported at all by the media.
Not to mention her encounters with aliens her whole life.

When someone reveals the truth, they are a target and they will bring you down, but she is a survivor and I am honored to be her close friend and sister.

Below is what I found on a forum telling about her experience when she was begging for help during the aftermath.
All is this is true and she still remembers every detail as if it was yesterday.

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FEMA and Hurricane Andrew

I have spoken with survivors of Hurricane Andrew, which struck South Dade County, Florida, in 1992 and
anyone who wants to know what the world will be like under organisations like FEMA and their masters should
listen to what they say. The horror stories they tell about the actions of FEMA beggar belief. Far from
helping the hundreds of thousands of homeless and injured victims, FEMA cordoned off the area and left
the people to fend for them selves. They were given no food, no water, no medical supplies, no shelter and no
help whatsoever when the disaster struck.

One of the victims was K.T. Frankovich who suffered serious injuries in the hurricane
. She tells of her horrific
experiences in her book, Where Heavens Meet. About three days after the hurricane had devastated the
region, she said that a long line of police cars, about 12 to 15, arrived in her area. Each car was
driven by a man dressed in a dark police uniform and they had three other plain clothes men riding as
passengers, she said.

K.T. had a broken jaw, eight teeth knocked out and huge pieces of glass embedded in
her body that only a scalpel could remove. She begged this FEMA convoy for help and this was the exchange
that followed, as described by K.T. in Where Heavens Meet.

Please Sir, I need medical help  I begged, barely able to speak. The officer sitting behind the wheel
sighed heavily. He turned his head away from me and gazed out his windshield. The other three men in the
car quietly looked at me.

Please Sir, I need to get to a hospital I begged franticly. The officer took
his time about reaching over and switching off the engine. With another sigh, he slowly opened the door
and climbed out. He then proceeded to close the door and stood there with his legs astride.

Lady, do me a favour he answered.Find yourself a piece of paper and a pencil. Write down your name and
social security number next to the phone number of your nearest living relative. Tuck the piece of paper
in your pocket so tomorrow, when I find your body, I'll know who to contact.

No! No!  I cried out. You don't understand. I need to get to a hospital. I've been badly injured.

No! You're the one that doesn't understand  he hissed back.

With that, he reached over to his holster and took out his gun. He grabbed me, forcing me up against the
side of the car, and proceeded to put the barrel of the gun against my temple. I heard the hammer cock.
From the position he had pushed me into, I could see directly into the car. The man sitting in the front
passenger seat looked away from me immediately, glancing down to the floor.

The two passengers in the
back turned their heads quickly, staring out the window on the other side of the car. My son and the
other survivor watched as the officer had pulled back the hammer on his gun. So shocked out of their minds
by what they were witnessing, neither one could move!

You don't belong here!  the officer growled, pressing the barrel into the side of my head. Now you get the
hell outta here before I blow away your ass!

He shoved my face into the car window and then released me. Someone grabbed me from behind and
whirled me around so fast I didn't have time to think!
Before I knew it, I was being thrown over a shoulder.

My rescuer took off running as fast as he could! I caught a brief glimpse of my son running next to me.
With one gigantic leap, he and the survivor who carried me down behind a pile of debris. All three of
us crashed on top of each other in one tangled up heap.

I'll shoot your damn asses!  the officers voice rang out.

This is the mentality behind FEMA, the US military, the Office of Homeland Security and leaders of
government. That mentality would not orchestrate what happened on September 11th to advance its agenda? The
official death toll of Hurricane Andrew was 26, but K.T. Frankovich says she saw at least 71 bodies taken
away from one small area alone. She estimates the dead to have numbered thousands. But how many people know
that?

Only those involved and no one is listening to them. As always, the media told us what the official
sources told them and they had no inclination to investigate further because it's easier that way. When
you consider how 8,230 mobile homes and 9,140 apartments disappeared in the wake of 200-300 miles an
hour winds, it is obvious that the official death toll of 26 is insane. K.T. Frankovich recalls:

The National Guard along with the Coast Guard, the Army, FEMA, Metro Dade Police, state police and local
police removed dead bodies and body parts as quickly as possible during those first ten days of the
aftermath.

Horrified survivors watched as both uniformed and civilian-clothed men searched the rubble
and filled body bags, which they then stacked in military vehicles or huge refrigerator trucks normally
used to transport food, only to drive off and leave the stranded injured to fend for them selves.

Not until I managed to escape the aftermath did I discover that the thermo-king sections of these same
refrigerator trucks, jam packed with wall to wall body bags, ended up being stored at Card Sound Navy Base,
located in an isolated area just above the Florida Keys. The inside temperature was kept cool by portable
generators until the bodies were either incinerated or just plain dumped into huge open grave pits.

Those working on the body pick up operation were forced to take what is known as the Oath of Sworn
Secrecy, which is strictly enforced by the government.

Many of them plunged into shock, once exposed to the ghastly devastation and countless mutilated bodies.
The horrors were way beyond human comprehension. I can vouch for this, as I accidentally stepped on the
severed hand of a young child when I initially crawled out of the debris, only to witness shortly thereafter
two dead teenagers and the decapitated body of a baby girl.

K.T. says that when she lectured at the Clearwater Convention in Florida in 1999, a man in the audience
introduced himself as Chief Petty Officer Roy Howard and said he had spent 9 weeks on active duty working
in South Dade County amid the devastation. He said he learned that at least 5,280 people had died and that
the bodies had been confiscated by the National Guard and secretly disposed of in incinerators in a
joint operation with FEMA. At least another 1,500 bodies were confiscated from lakes and other water.

This is the America that the population doesn't see, but it soon will if people don't wake up fast. FEMA,
the organisation behind all this and with all those fascist powers to take over America, is a 100%
Illuminati creation funded by the profits from the CIA-Bush family drug operation.

It is no surprise to learn, then, that it was during Father George's time at the CIA and in the White House between 1980 and
1992 that this emergency management's network was established in the name of fighting terrorism and
drug trafficking! You have to admire their cheek if nothing else.

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HERE IS PART OF ANOTHER ARTICLE SHE WROTE FOR Nexus Magazine:

"Thousands of them lost their lives for no one in South Dade had been evacuated or even advised to evacuate. Instead, residents had been repeatedly informed by local news media that South Dade should expect to experience "50 mph winds."

By 11:00 A.M. the following morning, 8,230 mobile homes had vanished off the face of the earth, along with 9,140 apartments. The Hiroshima horror was beyond catastrophic. Entire families perished in ways too horrifying to describe.
The stench of death had already begun to saturate miles-and-miles of the massive devastation, reeking the hot humid air with foul rotting flesh.
How do I know? Because I was in the midst of it all."
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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2009 10:31 pm

That is so horrible. I never felt right about anything that happened during this hurricane.

I have a sister married to a retired chief of police/Wa who had been on an undercover assignment in Lousianna just prior to Katrina. He specialized in the field of investigating serial killers. After Karina, I mentioned how horrible it was for the people there and my sister said to me. "they deserve what they got, they are evil". I screamed and slammed the phone down. I was furious...............we have hardly spoken 10 words since this. Of course they loved the bush's and anything involving the good guy bad guy scenerario.........I for the love of me couldn't figure out why our government couldn't get to those people and help them out. I now know the full horror of Katrina.

I still wonder if my brother in law had a hand in setting this off. I'm sorry but it bothers me. He worked for the intelligent division while stationed for 10 years in Germany after Viet Nam. I can't get her words out of my head. frightening to think someone could be so cold.

Linda, my heart goes out to your friend and all the people of LA, MS and AL.....I can't imagine having been there. Fema are nothing but souless scum. They can't possibly be human..........

Have you ever listened to Cynthia McKinley regarding Katrina?
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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2009 10:37 pm

oh my gosh, linda.....
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i am horrified
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somehow, reading about this type of thing in news is
different than hearing from a trusted source
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how can humans do this to one another? or stand by
quietly as it is done...
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crying for them doesn't help anything, i know...
it doesn't fix anything
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but it is all i can do at this moment, it just seems so
hopeless at times, you know?
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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2009 11:05 pm

It's horrifying to be reminded that any human can treat another that way, especially those entrusted to aid and assist in times of crisis. It was a hard post for me to read too. These people have to be souless, to place this order of silence and those that were complicit in the orders above caring and aiding those suffering after losing everything including their family and neighbors.

Every day I think I can't possibly be shocked any more than I am. I guess I'm wrong. I look around at people oblivious to what is really going on in the world and feel sorry for them. I know when reality comes around to slap them in the face, they are the ones who will not survive. It takes courage to expose what is happening and I respect and admire those that take the personal risk to do so, maybe they are saving your life.
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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2009 11:09 am

WH do you know where parts 2 and 3 are for the doc. Very interesting.

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Linda that is quite a story in regards to Hurricane Andrew!! Do you know if the response was racial or not.


My wife and I toured New Orleans last year and we went through all of the devastated areas and the stories from the natives is so overwhelming. MSM sure only tell us what they want to.

Here is an example. Picture yourself stranded on top of your house. You have your pet dog or cat with you. Well when the rescue boats come along you are told `sorry no pets`!!! There were people that refused to leave their pets and ended up dying.


The temporary FEMA mobile trailers that were sent in for people to live in are still sitting on lots all over the flooded wards. People were getting headaches, nosebleeds and feeling nausious. Upon investigation, the trailers had fermeldahyde as insulation and were causing people to get sick.


Most of the people I talked to down there refer to the disaster as man-made. They have done some upgrades since. At the main pumping stations in a couple of the wards the workers were told to leave. Now they have back-up generators and provisions with a plan for the staff to stay .

The hell that these people went through was mind boggling. Picture yourself asleep at night. Suddenly the power goes off. Next the levy breaks and everything begins to flood. Well what do you do. You can`t go into the water because of pollution and snakes etc. You only have one option and that is to chop a hole in your roof with an axe and climb up and sit and hope someone comes and gets you. (People in New Orleans are all told to keep an axe in their attick.)
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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2009 11:53 am

Yes, FEMA people are soulless. I know 2 men who work for them, one in D.C. and one in San Diego. I have always suspected one of them to be a clone because there is nothing behind his eyes and he shows no compassion.

k.t. has also seen first hand what these people are all about. They are mind controlled robots who are trained to do the bidding for the hidden.

No Mic, it was not racial. She is white as a lot of people were in the area.
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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2009 2:19 pm

micjer wrote:
WH do you know where parts 2 and 3 are for the doc.

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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2009 4:20 pm

Thanks for the links WH.

IEM sounds like a wonderful organization also. I wonder if the people of New Orleans would agree with their assessment of their performance.

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•Homeland Security and Emergency Management
•Information Technology
•Defense Programs
•Public Performance Management

Home > Products & Services > Public Performance Management
Public Performance Management
A sound public performance management system requires much more than simply counting the things government agencies produce.



Government agencies at all levels face mandates to measure and report program performance, but many continue to struggle with developing meaningful performance measures and incorporating performance information into real-time decision making. In many cases, there is no relationship between program activities, outputs that are measured, and the impact these programs have on people’s lives.

IEM offers Federal, state, and local government agencies a more thoughtful and robust approach to performance measurement, management, and budgeting. Our expertise is based on the application of rigorous scientific methodologies and experience implementing performance reforms in government.

Performance measurement


Performance indicators are often overly simplistic and limited to activities and outputs that are easily quantifiable. IEM’s measurement systems capture both quantitative and qualitative aspects of program performance, with a focus on the service outcomes that have real impacts on citizens as program clients.

Performance management


The old adage that “you manage what you measure” is well known among government

managers and advises caution in using simplistic performance measures. IEM’s approach recognizes the multi-faceted nature of program goals and operations, rigorously analyzes performance information in “real-time,” and presents analytic results in intuitive ways to inform decision making.

Performance budgeting


Many agencies claim to have “performance-based budgets,” but rarely link budget allocations to performance outcomes in effective ways. With IEM’s performance budgeting capabilities, agencies can carefully align program activities, costs, and budget accounts, and create natural incentives for managers to control costs and enhance operational efficiency.
IEM offers the following services that either stand alone or complement our capabilities in homeland security, emergency management, and defense support:



■Compliance support for the Government Performance and Results Act (GPRA), Program Assessment Rating Tool (PART), Service Efforts and Accomplishments (SEA) program, and other government mandates
■Organizational performance assessments and analysis
■Performance measurement and planning
■Operations, production, and cost analysis and research
■Performance management advice and systems
■Performance budget analysis and formulation support http://www.iem.com/prog_integration.php
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PostSubject: Re: the real hurricane katrina   the real hurricane katrina Icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2009 8:30 pm

micjer,

You are too funny lol! Yes that almost looks like what happened but it was coffee not wax. wave
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