Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy and for more government regulation of national economies to pull the world out of the current crisis and avoid a repeat.
The pope made his call for a re-think of the way the world economy is run in a new encyclical which touched on a number of social issues but whose main connecting thread was how the current crisis has affected both rich and poor nations.
Parts of the encyclical, titled "Charity in Truth," seemed bound to upset free marketeers because of its underlying rejection of unbridled capitalism and unregulated market forces, which he said had led to "thoroughly destructive" abuse of the system.
The pope said every economic decision had a moral consequence and called for "forms of redistribution" of wealth overseen by governments to help those most affected by crises.
Benedict said "there is an urgent need of a true world political authority" whose task would be "to manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result."
Such an authority would have to be "regulated by law" and "would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights."
"Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums," he said.
REFORM NEEDED
The United Nations, economic institutions and international finance all had to be reformed "even in the midst of a global recession," he said in the encyclical, a booklet of 141 pages.
The pope's call for a supranational body to tackle global economic woes disturbed some Catholic capitalists.
"There is a difference between coordination and mandate ... a reckless loan in the United States can and did impoverish people in Latvia. So obviously coordination is important as long as it is not mandates," said Frank Keating, CEO of the American Council of Life Insurers and former Governor of Oklahoma.
An encyclical is the highest form of papal writing and gives the clearest indication to the world's 1.1 billion Catholics -- and to non-Catholics -- of what the pope and the Vatican think about specific social and moral issues.
This one was addressed to all Catholics and "all people of good will" and was released on the eve of the start of the G8 summit in Italy and three days before the pope is due to discuss the global downturn with U.S. President Barack Obama.
In several sections of the encyclical, Benedict made it clear he had great reservations about a totally free market.
"The conviction that the economy must be autonomous, that it must be shielded from 'influences' of a moral character, has led man to abuse the economic process in a thoroughly destructive way," he said. Continued...
This is proof that the vatican is "in on it".
Linda Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:50 pm
Yep, that picture proves it all right.
sky otter Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:20 pm
the saying used to be
does a bear shit in the woods or is the pope catholic
on the 4th..i overheard a kid say
is the pope a nazi?
i thought that was very telling
Reunite Moderator
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:01 pm
That guy isn't photogenic...sends chills down my spine
micjer Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:52 pm
One more for your collection Reunite. (Which is very good BTW)
This guy gives me the creeps , big time.
Reunite Moderator
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:10 pm
He is not human..can't be
Linda Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:23 am
Nope, he's not. And he just loves his sick role.
Anchor Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:42 am
He is the head of an organization that is going to go down hard.
Gabriel Contributor
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:19 pm
Greatness all around here guys and girls, that pope is a very scary guy, he looks like the devil, and parades around like he has good sense!!!!! Amazing how ignorant these people are and how devoid of understanding they are.
Damn how would you like to see his life review as he watches it???
What freaks govern this very strange world.
WineHippie Contributor
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:19 am
micjer wrote:
This is proof that the vatican is "in on it".
Obama and Ben: Obama tries to woo Catholics By JOSH GERSTEIN | 07/10/09 10:09 AM
President Barack Obama's concerted efforts to woo the Catholic Church - and its voters - get a lift Friday ...
... as he has his first face-to-face audience with Pope Benedict XVI.
In advance of the session, White House officials have been emphasizing the president's strong affinity for the Catholic Church. And Obama himself has spoken of the church having a "powerful" impact on his life, even though he is not a member.
"Given the influence of the Catholic Church globally, as well in the United States, and frankly, given the influence of the Catholic Church and Church social teaching on the president, himself, he recognizes that this is much more than your typical state visit," Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough said Thursday.
While Obama is likely to get a scolding from the Pope over abortion, and perhaps his support for gay rights and the death penalty, the White House has been working assiduously to build a common agenda with the church on issues such as aid to the developing world, nuclear disarmament, and building ties with the Muslim world.
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:38 pm
The President of the United States and a grinning Secretary of State observe the Speaker of the House kissing the Pope's ring. It's good to see that America's government is in compliance.
According to Vatican tradition, kissing the ring of the Pope is recognition that the person is a servant of the Pope. Bush stated on the Eternal World Television Network (EWTN) before Ratzinger's first visit to the U.S. that when the Pope talked, "God was speaking."
Linda Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:59 pm
Hmmmmmm....
Outlandish Getty “double exposure” photo displays Pope next to reptilian dino type creature
Vincenzo Pinto/AFP/Getty Images – A multiple exposure photo shows Pope Benedict XVI in the Aula Nervi at Vatican during his weekly general audience on Feb. 4, 2009.
Biggles Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:16 pm
I thought that guy was creepy as soon as I saw him elected. Shivers, that's what I get when I look at him. Yuck energy.
WineHippie Contributor
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:41 pm
wow, linda, great find, an evil "pick'o'the-week" heebie jeebies even as i flash back to being a little catholic girl, all freckles and braids, in her uniform: plaid skirt, matching knee socks and sweater, white saddle oxfords and kissin' some almost-a-saint's ring....... i thought it was creepy THEN
Northern Boy Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:47 pm
he will be dead soon not a long reign for him
Linda Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:14 pm
Yeah WH, it was always creepy all right.
Someone told me she went to confession once and the priest made her cry. He yelled at her and said that she was evil and was not fit to be in the church.
The poor girl was only about 8 years old!
Gabriel Contributor
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:09 pm
WineHippie wrote:
wow, linda, great find, an evil "pick'o'the-week" heebie jeebies even as i flash back to being a little catholic girl, all freckles and braids, in her uniform: plaid skirt, matching knee socks and sweater, white saddle oxfords and kissin' some almost-a-saint's ring....... i thought it was creepy THEN
Yeah winehippie big creepy stuff. Those people like the Pope and his pals all look dead to me. Zombies all the way, the walking dead.
Biggles Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:34 pm
Northern Boy wrote:
he will be dead soon not a long reign for him
Was this pope's death prophesized Northern, he is the last or the second last pope, cant remember now. But I would like to go underneath their city, the vatican where all their secrets are with a documentary crew (I wouldn't go alone) unless it was with all you guys, I would be too scared, and show the world exactly what was going on and what they were up to. Now that would be something, a real eye opener to say the least.
Yeah hippie, brought up as an RC myself, went to catholic school, Sisters of St Joseph and they were brutal, nasty, vicious, frustrated women, well most of them were, a couple weren't bad. How many times did I get punched in the back, my hands swollen and raw from the strap, the ruler, just for being scared and doing something wrong in your work, (it was the early 60's here), the most unspiritual, unkind biddies.
sky otter Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:13 pm
Wow biggs seems we are on the same page here..i was sentenced to 8 years of catholic school.. and looking back on it i think my father was an early conspiracy theorist.. he would get me in trouble by saying..hey ask the nuns about Pope Gregory and his grandfather..geeze..it was a mean thing to do to a young kid..but i sure looked at things more closely from then on..lol
here's one for ya
wel maybe two..hahahahahah he is sooo icky..and it isn't just surface looks
and a trip to the vatican would really be something with this group...
oh yeah..i think he is supposed to be next to last pope..but i wonder if they counted pope joan i think that would make a big difference
Biggles Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:11 am
You know those Blair Witch type docos, where you just go in and film yourselves, that would be good, only it would all be real what we came across.............
first one to see the shadow of an alligator though......................biggs can disappear pretty darn quick..................speedy gonzales. ole.
Somamech Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:54 am
Hmm lets look at the Pope in Sydney:
What was that about false Gods LOL
micjer Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:56 am
Great point Soma.
What's up with worshipping this guy. Don't forget to give him 10% of your earnings!!!! That will buy your way into heaven.
WineHippie Contributor
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:00 pm
Linda wrote:
Yeah WH, it was always creepy all right.
Someone told me she went to confession once and the priest made her cry. He yelled at her and said that she was evil and was not fit to be in the church.
The poor girl was only about 8 years old!
that's why i would MAKE UP sins for confession (i really dislike disappointing anyone)
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:53 pm
I've never seen a human with electrifying hair like that????
Linda Senior Member
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Subject: Re: Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:41 pm
WH, that is funny! I must admit that I did the same thing when I was young, you know the expected ones: I used a bad word. I didn't go to mass last week. I forgot to say my prayers, etc.
Once I became a teenager, me and my sisters were done. We would only show up to see our friends after the mass, so that we could make fun plans for the day.
My parents were so happy that we quit because they never believed in organized religion and actually despised it. I asked later why they even bothered to send us if they felt that way.
They said because my aunt who was a religious freak wouldn't stop hounding them but they always knew that we would eventually find out for ourselves that it was nothing but a load of crock to enslave you. They pointed out how they made people stand up, sit down, knell, say this or that and how it was designed to make you act like a robotic slave and how you actually paid them money for that honor!!!.
That spirituality can only be found from within, not in the group think and that actions will always speak louder than words every single time. And to never fear the Creator because He loved all of us equally, always forgave us but only if we realized that we made a stupid mistake and then changed our behavior.
My parents thought the only bad things were not being true to yourself, being meek, acting disrespectful to others, trying to deceive or harm the innocent, not lifting a hand to help others, worrying about what others think and especially not laughing and just enjoying ourselves while we are all here! Because ALL we have is THIS moment.
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