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PostSubject: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeSun May 17, 2009 10:21 pm

http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/reincarnation/karma_jstevens.htm

The early years of your life tend to be the most karma-filled. Adolescence is often the most intense time of all in a life. The hormonal and developmental changes tend to accentuate the difficulties of that period and facilitate a climate wherein much karma can be played out. This is also the time when you experiment with the different chief negative features: self-destruction, greed, self-deprecation, arrogance, martyrdom, impatience, and stubbornness. Generally by about the age of 21 you select one of them to settle down with.

After the age of 30, karmic intensity is greatly reduced. There are exceptions to this, as is the case with those people experiencing lifetimes at the sixth level of any stage (heavy karma balancing), and those with a goal of growth.

How Karma Repayment Works


Karma is supervised and organized by essence. Often the personality knows nothing of the purpose and impending unfoldment of the karma. There is good reason for this. False personality often operates out of fear. If your conscious personality knew that an intensely painful karma were about to occur with someone, it would run as fast as possible in the opposite direction, thus avoiding the repayment or the lesson that essence had in mind. Your personality usually feels like a victim in karmic situations.

Essence planned the karma repayment without flinching. Even when you are an old soul you need this benevolent amnesia to meet your more difficult karma. As mentioned earlier, karma usually comes with no warning even though it is essence directed. It frequently comes like a freight train rounding the bend and coming down the tracks with inexorable speed. The train is upon you before you can run away. When you are in the midst of a karmic situation you feel foggy and unclear, and you may feel strangely unable to get out of the situation. You often wonder how this happened to you all of a sudden.

You may walk innocently into a meeting and within minutes are insulted and humiliated by the new director on your job. You are instantly plunged into painful emotions and wonder what you did to deserve it.

The answer is often that you didn't do anything this lifetime to deserve it. You simply showed up to balance the record sheet. Likewise you may be penniless and lost in a foreign country and a complete stranger suddenly appears on the scene and takes you in, cares for you, and gives you an airplane ticket home.

When karma has been completed, a feeling of freedom and relief ensues. The fog clears and you gain insight into the preceding events. You become neutral about the issue that had so recently carried such intensity for you. You don't care anymore. You may even wonder how you could have been so upset about the issue.

The purpose of karma completion is to get you neutral on the issue so that you can move on to new and more interesting lessons. You have reached the neutral position on the triadic experience and you are ready for something new.

Karma as a Choice

Remember again that karma is not fate. Fate is a notion of predestination. You choose karma specifically with the purpose of undergoing an emotional or learning experience. Think of karma as ribbons that draw together experiences and weave a distinct pattern that is the product of many lifetimes. Remember also that those ribbons cause you to be in specific places and to meet certain people, sometimes to your great surprise. If you have a karmic debt with another individual living in a foreign country you will suddenly find yourself drawn, sometimes almost magically, to travel to that other country where the debt can be repaid.

Occasionally the obstacles in the path of meeting are too great and the karma must be deferred to another lifetime. For example, you may decide that this lifetime you will complete ten major karma, seventy-five medium karma, and one hundred and fifty minor karma. Typically you tend to bite off more than you can chew, so that if you complete most of these karma the lifetime will feel successful to you no matter how uncomfortable for your personality.

Some karma will be judged too difficult to complete for now. There is always free choice about when to complete a karma. The choice to complete it is made by essence at the time of initiation of the karma. It will always be completed.

Let us say that you have karma with a Mr. Chang who resides in China, and you live in Brazil. On an essence level you feel an urge to return the good deeds he has done for you in the past that will take a full year to repay. You however have not been able to travel to China and are heavily involved in completing and creating karma in your locality. Mr. Chang is able to visit Brazil for one week and you feel a pull to attend a lecture he is giving in a nearby city. You go out of your way to see him even though the topic is not of interest to you. You realize that although you are strongly attracted to him you will not be able to complete the karma in this life because of his short stay.

Such flirting with karma is a common experience and happens all the time. On the other hand, if Mr. Chang announced that he would be in the vicinity for several years, the pull to complete the karma would be almost irresistible.

Sexual attraction is one of the greatest facilitators of karma. When an imbalance exists between two people there is a strong essence-driven impetus to balance the record sheet. However, personality may sense a possible danger and wish to avoid the situation. Strong sexual attraction will make this avoidance less likely. For example, if you embezzled a large sum of money from Marsha in an earlier lifetime and you suddenly run into Marsha in this lifetime you may want to run and hide. You sense that she has come to collect. However if you are distracted by the fact that Marsha is now a beautiful blonde, your very type, then your lust will lead you directly into the karma. How convenient.

You may later wonder how you ever could have gotten involved with her after she has divorced you and taken your house and car in repayment.

Karma and Time


How long does karma last? Is there a time limit or a way to speed it up? The answer is not a simple one. Sometimes karma lasts only for a few seconds, such as a short intense pain; other times karma can last a whole lifetime, such as having a benevolent aunt who constantly looks out for you for many years. In another vein, a foe can cause you the loss of your arm early in life, a handicap that can last for decades. The length of the karmic experience is directly in proportion to the length of the first incident. If you deprive someone of the use of their legs for twenty years then this becomes a twenty-year karma. If you cut short someone's life by one year then your own life will be cut short by one year in a later life. If you raise an orphan with kindness and generosity for twelve years then you will be repaid with a twelve-year kindness.

Balance then, is the name of the game. However, you can drag karma on, escalate it or creatively manipulate it according to the experiences and lessons desired by all parties involved. In order for karma to be truly complete, everyone involved must acknowledge the completion of it at an essence level. Karma can be such a delicious source of growth and lessons that often all parties would rather refuse to recognize the repayment and generate more karma instead. The karma builds and becomes more intense lifetime after lifetime, until ultimately the lesson of forgiveness is learned.

Sometimes a person will feel an intense tug to repay a karmic debt that they owe you. You may recoil at their appearance and try to avoid them based on past painful experience. This is like saying "Oh no! Not you again! I'm getting out of here!" So the chase is on until the debt is repaid. However, people are not always successful at repaying the karma. For example, Tom may owe Susan for abandonment one lifetime. Men they meet again the intention is to repay the debt. Nevertheless Tom may get cold feet at the prospect of being abandoned and instead repeat the original offense by abandoning Susan all over again. The karma then has just escalated. Small wonder then that some people get skittish when they see their old enemy show up.

The question arises "Am I about to be repaid or am I about to be burned again?" The game of cat and mouse can go on for centuries. Again, in the end, all is forgiven, balanced, and completed. Occasionally you play the game of "Who can be the most generous?" lifetime after lifetime, by building karma of a positive nature with someone. On the other hand, old souls wishing to cycle off the planet become adept at completing karma efficiently and creatively, sometimes accomplishing several at the same time.
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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeSun May 17, 2009 10:22 pm

A Wisdom Archive on Karmic debt

http://www.experiencefestival.com/karmic_debt
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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 4:23 am

The OP is excellent and more or less exactly how I view Karma.

I can think of some difficult periods in my life where I have been doing a triple karma smackdown :)
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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 11:30 am

What concerns me about the teaching of karma is its self-obsession.

I can see how this description of the mechanics in operation actually describes effects and outcomes; but it doesn't delve into behavioral catalysts, much.

It's a good place to start thinking.

This my whole life has been a karma trip since I was born. There was never a time when I was not undergoing trial by fire, from birth on, surrendered to adoption, adopted by sworn enemies of my birth parents, reared as an atheist, married three men who hated me just like my adopted mother did, and so and on and on ... But the past is behind me now.

It's an interesting journey, and we just take the pilgrimage, one bite at a time. Remember, attitude is everything.


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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 4:03 pm

Self obsession?

One can recognise karma that manifests other than in individuals. There is group karma, national karma, planetary karma. Each of us will find our lives affected by the karma of others - not just our own - but often intertwined.

Interestingly the universe has a knack of choreographing it all for the best good of all involved.

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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeTue May 19, 2009 10:32 am

Anchor wrote:
Self obsession?

One can recognise karma that manifests other than in individuals. There is group karma, national karma, planetary karma. Each of us will find our lives affected by the karma of others - not just our own - but often intertwined.

Interestingly the universe has a knack of choreographing it all for the best good of all involved.

A..

I don't recognize karma; I recognize behavior that creates harmony and behavior that shuts everything down.

The Universe has a sense of freedom in which "destroying things is fun and games."

I have an essential distrust of that sense of freedom.


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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeTue May 19, 2009 6:48 pm

shechaiyah wrote:
This my whole life has been a karma trip since I was born.

shechaiyah wrote:
I don't recognize karma;

Well you confused me now.

The principle of karma informs much of my understanding about the way things work in our shared of consensus realities, especially at our current density.

I don't think I have anything to add to earth shattering to add to the current thread of discussion - but I don't really understand your point, so I will stick with the question I had. Please explain: "What concerns me about the teaching of karma is its self-obsession."

It's like saying one of newtons laws, for example "every action as an equal and opposite reaction" is self-obsessed - I don't really get where you are coming from. Unless the "its" you are referrring to the act of teaching - or the style or methods of teaching ? Are you? Please elaborate.

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The Universe has a sense of freedom in which "destroying things is fun and games.
That is just one side of the coin, there is another side of the universe which has a sense of joy in the act of (co-) creation. Something many of us do every moment. Which way you go is a choice you can make every step of the way, from moment to moment.

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always choice - how cool is that?
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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeTue May 19, 2009 9:33 pm

How I view karmic debt/lesson on this density makes little sense in 3D perspective. On the soul level all will be clear. I guess this comes down to the ideologies of reincarnation.
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Anchor wrote:


shechaiyah wrote:
This my whole life has been a karma trip since I was born.

shechaiyah wrote:
I don't recognize karma;

Well you confused me now.

A..

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to confuse anyone.

My whole life has been a drama full of coincidences that I never could have predicted.

However, that's not how I deal with it, as "being out there."

I deal with life "in here" according to causes-and-effects, especially my own behavior.

When strange things happen to me, the blame does not go "out there."

I realize and I practice self-scrutiny, and I fix myself so that my vulnerable side is less vulnerable.

That's what I meant. I stay away from places where I am likely to be taken down.

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WineHippie wrote:
always choice - how cool is that?

Very freaking cool actually!

Its such fun - especially when you start to get the occasional "out times" where you get to review the situation and see where those steps led and why.

Joy to you this day!

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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeWed May 20, 2009 4:15 am

Sech,

I see you point of view, and I am impressed by the wisdom of it.

Life is certainly drama, this I am certain is true for each of us.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.
And then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lined,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slipper'd pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side,
His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything."

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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeSun May 31, 2009 10:27 pm

Really!

You hit the nail right on the head!

What's happening to me right now is a mite weird.

My AGING is going BACKWARDS.

Skin and muscle tone are REVERTING to what they were in my 40s.

The grandmotherly "turkey-neck" has contracted back to what it was in my 30s.

Hair is down to my waist; there are no wrinkles on my face. Skin is clear.

To what purpose do I now appear to be younger than my kids?

I dunno.


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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeMon Jun 01, 2009 8:25 am

schech, i could use someathat anti-turkey-neck action!
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PostSubject: Re: Choosing your Karma   Choosing your Karma Icon_minitimeMon Jun 01, 2009 11:02 pm

This is sooooo weird.

Anti-turkey neck regime.

1. Scrub your face and neck twice a day with lots of soap and an abrasive mitt.
(Plastic surgeons charge a fortune for an acid-peel; this does the same thing, you yourself.)

2. Apply a lotion to your face-around-the-mouth (where lines usually form chin bulges) all the say down to your breastbone, with:
[blended in the blender]:

1/2 a cup of olive or almond, oil; some vitamin E oil and a tsp liquid lecithin (or 6-lecithin 1gram caps) in a container; swirl together.

2nd Container: 1/2 c distilled vinegar and 1t baking soda PLUS vitamins: one gram each: biotin, folic acid, vitamin C powder, 1/2 t. (7g) cayenne pepper. Dissolve these in the vinegar. It should all be foaming like mad.

When the water solubles are dissolved completely in the foam, throw them in the blender with the oils and whip it all until smooth. Add your favorite perfume.

This is basic nutrient face creme that is absorbed through the skin. It's also excellent applied as a nutrient creme around the hairline, to nourish new hair around the face.

After you scrub your lower face and neck (twice a day) apply this creme. What you will notice is that your neck skin will start sloughing off. This IS GOOD! (up to a point), the old turkey skin. Your neck will contract, and you should experience NO REDNESS FROM THIS MIXTURE. This mixture must be kept in a sterile jar in the refrigerator at all times, and when you scoop some, use a clean spoon; never your fingers which will contaminate it and spoil it.

If you have any problems, call me 408-259-9575. I don't want you to haVe problems. See how shiny and firm my skin is? This is why.

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