2012 or is it october 28, 2011 ?

i've been hearing more and more about oct 28, 2011 being the real change day rather than 12-21-12..so i have gathered up some of the stuff i can find...so read it or don't and make up your own mind
i just picked up Barbara Hand Clow's Mayan Code..so i'll probably be back with some more


long article here: http://www.birthofgaia.com/t26-december-21st-2012-and-or-october-28th-2011

some of it:
Editor's Comment:
It is reassuring to see that the top two 2012 theorists, Jenkins and Calleman agree on the true end date of the Long Count: as Calleman says here, "...like Stray I would also place this at December 21, 2012."
However, it remains difficult to see how Monument 6 at Tortuguero could be interpreted to mean anything other than that Bolon, the god or gods of nine, will return on that same date—the only date on the monument—rather than in 2011.
At the same time, even if Calleman is wrong about the significance of October 28, 2011, that does not mean that his entire theory about the Mayan calendar is wrong. Like others—even some of the total nut cases out there—he has at least a piece of the puzzle, and it may turn out to be a big piece.
Shay Addams

Calleman Proved Wrong about End Date of Long Count by Geoff Stray


Carl Calleman's theory that the current Long Count cycle ends in 2011 instead of 2012 has been refuted in several ways by Geoff Stray, author of Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Transformation. After emailing Stray about our proof Calleman is wrong, he replied with more details. This was Stray's reply, which is published with his permission. For even more, see Stray's review of Calleman's book.
More Proof that Calleman is Wrong


Dear Shay,
Glad you posted this...Also: POINT 1:
4 Ahau 3 Kankin is going to be Night Lord 9— the one that ended every tun, since there are 9 of them and 9 divides into 360.
However, Oct 28 2011 will be Night Lord 3.
Page 3 of my new essay

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http://galacticportalcafe.com/2011/04/02/march-9-october-28-2011-dawn-of-the-ninth-unity-wave-consciousness/

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http://realneo.us/content/galactic-allignment-2012-october-28-2011-more-precise-some-say
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http://www.courtenay-tie-dye-mandala.com/mayancalendar.html
In the coming days of this final year of transformation, the Universal Underworld (the 9th and final level of consciousness according to the Mayan Calendar that will commence around February/March of 2011 and conclude on October 28, 2011), and prior to the heralded galactic gateway freeing earth thru the completion of this evolutionary cycle, those who have been prepping themselves to lead the planet and her people to the 5th dimension will be doing so en masse. This means that those who are activated and aligned with the new timeline will be stepping into roles of active service (play)…putting forth our authentic voices and reclaiming our power to lead by example.This means one thing in particular:

time to walk our talk.



or just do a search with the date oct 28, 2011

there are also videos' by various folks

oh yeah and we haven't even brought to bear the comet thing or solar stuff..hummmmmmmmmmmmm lots to think about


ok..back to my book for now...came back to add web link.. http://www.handclow2012.com/mayancode.htm
finding some very interesting correlations with astrology

Yeah I bought one of Carl Calleman's books years ago and never finished it. However the Gregorian calendar was put in place to throw us out of sync with nature so I can see how dates could be mixed up too.

I still think on what ever date the galactic alignment does take place will be subtle and marks an awakening, not into the whole doomsday scenario's.

imo end of an age, not end of the world.

imo end of an age, not end of the world.

yeah..total agreement on that....

perhaps the change will be all of a sudden we are all aware of our psychic muscle...
for a while it might look like one of those polergist movies....duck.!!!!!

ok..just had to share this..in the back of BH Clow's Mayan code there are a few pages to figure out yourday sign and cosmic code
and of course i did..
and my day sign is owl and at the end of the little pragraph for owl it says..

"The challenge in life is to find an ethical way of taking it easy."

i'm still laughing..