Obama's birth certificate...someone has some explaining to do!!

http://www.infowars.com/new-obama-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery/


Our investigation of the purported Obama birth certificate released by Hawaiian authorities today reveals the document is a shoddily contrived hoax. Infowars.com computer specialists dismissed the document as a fraud soon after examining it.

Check out the document released by WhiteHouse.gov for yourself.

Interesting mate, hey what happened to the change of hospital names in 1978 info you posted earlier?

Reunite wrote:

Interesting mate, hey what happened to the change of hospital names in 1978 info you posted earlier?

Well I have researched a little deeper and I am not sure what the truth is. There is wiki info that supports the fact the hospital did exist, so I removed it until I find out more.

Here is a copy of another birth cert with the same hospital name on it.

ok cheers buddy

Hey Mic you might wanna check out ATS for more stuff, the folk over there are going nuts going over this with a fine tooth comb.

This is the same document without the whiteout.

Why is Obama's number higher, when Susan was born after him?

Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
Real documents include name of doctor, hospital
Read more: Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347#ixzz1Ks1Kpptg

Somamech wrote:

Hey Mic you might wanna check out ATS for more stuff, the folk over there are going nuts going over this with a fine tooth comb.

Will do mate.


This whole thing smells to high heavens that is for sure.


Did you see who signed OB's certificate? Ukkelle !!

As you said Mic this does smell very much off.

Dont tell me tptw didnt know all of his background, including birth etc, they would have to.

LOL

Cant find the thread now, but last night there was a thread where someone hade played around with colour correction and found hidden text in the certificate.

Found it Mic, full credits to Boon


Obama's LFBC has CIA-61 handwritten on it - ATS Exclusive

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread695331/pg1

The CIA said on his first birth certificate showing that if anyone doubted it, they would be classed as a terrorist.

Now we have a second B.C., so who are the terrorists now?

I found his original B.C. from when he was born in Kenya...

i have a feeling- no facts - that O was born in indonesia -
i do not know where i picked upon this, could have been
something i read or heard and then i filed it away - i did
not research it, because frankly, i don't care - but when
i observe others discussing, there is something inside me
that says "nope, sorry, it was indonesia" - no emotion behind
this at all, just something floating by .......

Somamech wrote:

Found it Mic, full credits to Boon


Obama's LFBC has CIA-61 handwritten on it - ATS Exclusive

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread695331/pg1

Thanks for the link.


They would have been bettter off not trying to prove anything. LOL

Now it does look bad, as it brings the subject up everywhere.

What is it about twin girls born day after Obama?

Read more: What is it about twin girls born day after Obama? http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292457#ixzz1L0GctLwo


Today, Barack Obama blinked – releasing birth records he has hired lawyers to prevent the public from seeing, even at the expense of allowing U.S. Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin to be court-martialed and sent to prison for having dared ask questions the White House until now has resolutely dismissed with ridicule and disdain.

A key problem for Obama is that birth certificates issued to twin girls born one day later at Kapi'olani hospital, the Nordykes, are the Rosetta Stone of deciphering both Obama's previously released short-form Certification of Live Birth and the newly released purported copy of his long-form birth certificate.




The problem since the short-form certificate was released during the 2008 presidential campaign has always been this:

As WND reported, the long-form birth certificates issued by Kapi'olani to the Nordyke twins have certificate numbers lower than the number given Obama, even though the president purportedly was born at the same hospital a day earlier than the Nordykes.

Note, Susan Nordyke, the first twin, was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.


Gretchen Nordyke, the second twin, was born at 2:17 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.


Yet, according to the Certification of Live Birth displayed by FactCheck.org during the 2008 presidential campaign – and now according to the long-form birth certificate the White House released today – Barack Obama was given a higher certificate number than the Nordykes.


Note, Obama was given certificate No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the Nordyke twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii Department of Health registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.
In 1961, the birth certificate numbers were not assigned by the hospitals.

Instead, the numbers were stamped to the birth record by the Hawaii Department of Health at the main office in Honolulu.

This is the only place birth certificate numbers were assigned.

At the last step of the process, the documents were accepted by the registrar general, with the date of registration inserted in box No. 22 on the lower right hand corner of the long-form birth certificate.

The date the birth document was accepted by the registrar general was the date the birth certificate number was stamped on the birth record.

The birth certificate number was stamped on the form by a rubber stamp that automatically increased by one each time a birth certificate was stamped.

The question, therefore, is how was it possible that the Nordyke twins had their birth certificates accepted by the registrar general in Hawaii three days later than the registrar general accepted Obama's birth certificate, when the twins' numbers are lower than Obama's number?

Eleanor Nordyke has speculated that her twins received an earlier birth certificate number because, although she gave birth later than Ann Dunham, she entered Kapi'olani earlier.

Yet, in 1961, birth certificate numbers were not assigned by the hospital, and the date the mother checked into the medical facility was irrelevant to how birth certificate numbers were assigned.

Moreover, no records for Dunham having been a patient at Kapi'olani in 1961, or of Obama having been born at the hospital on Aug. 4, 1961, have been released by the hospital.

Now that President Obama has personally vouched for the authenticity of the birth certificate the White House released today, he can reasonably be asked to authorize Kapi'olani Medical Center to release any and all medical records the hospital may hold for his mother and Barack Obama Sr., his listed father.

The debate over Obama's eligibility to be president has truly only just begun, with Obama's status having changed overnight from a bemused observer to a full-contact participant.

Two weeks before the publication of my book "Where's the Birth Certificate?" the effort to document Obama's past has begun in earnest.

Fundamentally, the world changed for Barack Obama this morning, not just in increasing pressure for the release of the many hidden documents about his past, but in the inescapable reality that the White House must defend this newly released birth certificate as authentic.

Before today, Obama may have attempted to explain away problems with the short-form Certification of Live Birth as the work of his supporters.

Before today, the president largely remained above the fray. Now, he has fully engaged in the presentation and defense of his birth records and his status as a "natural born citizen" under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.

Obama's presidency now depends upon the White House being able to support the veracity of all the information contained in the birth document released yesterday morning.

In the final analysis, proof that the document is an authentic Obama birth record will await forensic examination.

Carol posted this info at the mists.......





OBAMA IS NOT AND WILL NEVER BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

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Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was a Kenyan citizen at the time of Obama's birth thereby making Barack Hussein Obama II a dual U.S./Kenyan citizen.

It doesn't matter if Obama was born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House. Obama is NOT, nor ever will be a Natural Born Citizen in accordance with Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Only a person, whose parents were either BOTH born in the U.S. or were BOTH Naturalized U.S. Citizens at the time of the person's birth, can ever be a Natural Born Citizen.

And for those of you who argue the subclause in Article II Section 1 that states;

"or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution"

makes any U.S. citizen eligible to be President are plain wrong.

That subclause was added so the Founding Fathers(Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe) and those who came after them, who were either born before the ratification of the U.S. Constitution or had parents who were born before the ratification of the U.S. Constitution, could be President of the United States.

President James K. Polk was the first Natural Born Citizen to become President of the United States because both parents were born after the ratification of the U.S. Constitution in 1789.

Therefore since the Presidency of James K. Polk, only U.S. Citizens, whose parents were either BOTH born in the U.S. or were Naturalized U.S. Citizens at the time of the citizen's birth, are eligible to be President of the United States.

Obama is ineligible to hold office. It's that simple.

http://wakeup1776.blogspot.com/2011/04/obamas-birth-certificate-is-fraud-just.html

Quote: "The immediate online consensus is that the birth certificate recently released by Obama is a fraud. Please see here, here, here, here, and here. There are countless reasons, but the most compelling are that one can load the document into Adobe Illustrator and can see the different layers that have been pasted on the document, the fact that the birth certificate number is higher than people who were born after Obama, and the fact that there is no embossed seal on the document. There are countless other reasons mentioned, but in an effort to move on to the rest of this article, I will assert this recently released birth certificate is a fraud for the above mentioned reasons."

"Questions over Obama's have arisen because of his almost total concealment of documentation from his life – including his passport records, kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records and schedules, medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license and adoption records.

Specifically, because of the lack of documentation, it was suspected he might not have been born in Hawaii, or might have another circumstance that would preclude his eligibility under the Constitution's "natural born Citizen" requirement, such as a loss of that status by taking Indonesia citizenship during his childhood, or relinquishing that status by using a foreign passport during his college years. Or that he didn't qualify because of a dual citizenship inherited from a foreign national father.

He only released a copy of his "Certificate of Live Birth" from Hawaii this week because, he said, those questions were distracting him from the nation's problems, such as massive spending, job instability and others.

But plaintiffs and lawyers who earlier brought a lawsuit against Obama alleging he is ineligible to be president, say he failed to meet the "natural born Citizen" requirement because his father is a foreign national, and the understanding of "natural born Citizen" at the time the Constitution was written was a citizen offspring of citizen parents.

That's also what Obama, as a cosponsor, included in his Senate Resolution 511 in 2008 regarding McCain.

The statement includes two references to "Americans" as parents or "American citizens" as parents.

"Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country's President," it states.


First reference to "American" parents in Obama's resolution about McCain

The second reference is to "American citizens" as parents."

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292901

This is reported to be the real BC.

I am one that thinks he is not qualified to be Prez because he is not a natural born citizen. But that is just my opinion, I actually have no way of knowing for sure...

....and why would it be announced in a Kenyan newspaper, with his Kenyan address if he was born in the USA?

Actual Sign At Kenya Border

Obama forgers admit they produced phony documents

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=310949



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NEW YORK – Radical supporters of Barack Obama have openly admitted to forging Obama birth certificates, going so far as to identify themselves by their usernames to claim responsibility on Internet blogs.

They have described their activities as satire, a tactic designed to deflect criminal charges that might otherwise be filed against them for producing fraudulent official government documents.

As WND has reported in a three-part series, published here, here, and here, scanner expert Doug Vogt has filed criminal charges with the FBI, alleging that the Obama birth certificate released by the White House April 27 was fraudulently created.



Read more: Obama forgers admit they produced phony documents http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=310949#ixzz1PLBI8hJl

Can you see him being impeached anytime soon?

No. I think they will play more diversion tactics.