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PostSubject: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeSun Jul 11, 2010 9:07 pm

hey guys can you see the moon, I can't. where is it? I am at friends house, and got good orb pics down here~~~ 2 cameras. Will post tomorrow. flower
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeMon Jul 12, 2010 7:00 am

Gee I didnt notice when I went outside Louise, although I did notice that venus was very bright and low in the sky and had moved to where I had seen it last week scratch

Not real good on these things but that bright star planet has had me intrigued of late.

Wow more orbs at your friends place, you have that amazing eye orb with you anyway, that's just a brilliant one for me. sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeMon Jul 12, 2010 7:17 am

lol!
oh Louise..really????... flower ... it's a new moon phase lol!



Understanding The Moon Phases
Have you ever wondered what causes the moon phases? We all know that its appearance changes over time. But why? The good way to understand the phases of the moon is to examine an earth-moon-sun diagram:

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Diagram Explanation
The illustration may look a little complex at first, but it's easy to explain.

Sunlight is shown coming in from the right. The earth, of course, is at the center of the diagram. The moon is shown at 8 key stages during its revolution around the earth. The dotted line from the earth to the moon represents your line of sight when looking at the moon. To help you visualize how the moon would appear at that point in the cycle, you can look at the larger moon image. The moon phase name is shown alongside the image.

One important thing to notice is that exactly one half of the moon is always illuminated by the sun. Of course that is perfectly logical, but you need to visualize it in order to understand the phases. At certain times we see both the sunlit portion and the shadowed portion -- and that creates the various moon phase shapes we are all familiar with. Also note that the shadowed part of the moon is invisible to the naked eye; in the diagram above, it is only shown for clarification purposes.

So the basic explanation is that the lunar phases are created by changing angles (relative positions) of the earth, the moon and the sun, as the moon orbits the earth.

If you'd like to examine the phases of the moon more closely, via computer software, you may be interested in this moon phases calendar software.


Moon Phases Simplified
It's probably easiest to understand the moon cycle in this order: new moon and full moon, first quarter and third quarter, and the phases in between.

As shown in the above diagram, the new moon occurs when the moon is positioned between the earth and sun. The three objects are in approximate alignment (why "approximate" is explained below). The entire illuminated portion of the moon is on the back side of the moon, the half that we cannot see.

At a full moon, the earth, moon, and sun are in approximate alignment, just as the new moon, but the moon is on the opposite side of the earth, so the entire sunlit part of the moon is facing us. The shadowed portion is entirely hidden from view.

The first quarter and third quarter moons (both often called a "half moon"), happen when the moon is at a 90 degree angle with respect to the earth and sun. So we are seeing exactly half of the moon illuminated and half in shadow.

Once you understand those four key moon phases, the phases between should be fairly easy to visualize, as the illuminated portion gradually transitions between them.

An easy way to remember and understand those "between" lunar phase names is by breaking out and defining 4 words: crescent, gibbous, waxing, and waning. The word crescent refers to the phases where the moon is less that half illuminated. The word gibbous refers to phases where the moon is more than half illuminated. Waxing essentially means "growing" or expanding in illumination, and waning means "shrinking" or decreasing in illumination.

Thus you can simply combine the two words to create the phase name, as follows:

After the new moon, the sunlit portion is increasing, but less than half, so it is waxing crescent. After the first quarter, the sunlit portion is still increasing, but now it is more than half, so it is waxing gibbous. After the full moon (maximum illumination), the light continually decreases. So the waning gibbous phase occurs next. Following the third quarter is the waning crescent, which wanes until the light is completely gone -- a new moon.


The Moon's Orbit
You may have personally observed that the moon goes through a complete moon phases cycle in about one month. That's true, but it's not exactly one month. The synodic period or lunation is exactly 29.5305882 days. It's the time required for the moon to move to the same position (same phase) as seen by an observer on earth. If you were to view the moon cycling the earth from outside our solar system (the viewpoint of the stars), the time required is 27.3217 days, roughly two days less. This figure is called the sidereal period or orbital period. Why is the synodic period different from the sidereal period? The short answer is because on earth, we are viewing the moon from a moving platform: during the moon cycle, the earth has moved approximately one month along its year-long orbit around the sun, altering our angle of view with respect to the moon, and thus altering the phase. The earth's orbital direction is such that it lengthens the period for earthbound observers.

Although the synodic and sidereal periods are exact numbers, the moon phase can't be precisely calculated by simple division of days because the moon's motion (orbital speed and position) is affected and perturbed by various forces of different strengths. Hence, complex equations are used to determine the exact position and phase of the moon at any given point in time.

Also, looking at the diagram (and imagining it to scale), you may have wondered why, at a new moon, the moon doesn't block the sun, and at a full moon, why the earth doesn't block sunlight from reaching the moon. The reason is because the moon's orbit about the earth is about 5 degrees off from the earth-sun orbital plane.

However, at special times during the year, the earth, moon, and sun do in fact "line up". When the moon blocks the sun or a part of it, it's called a solar eclipse, and it can only happen during the new moon phase. When the earth casts a shadow on the moon, it's called a lunar eclipse, and can only happen during the full moon phase. Roughly 4 to 7 eclipses happen in any given year, but most of them minor or "partial" eclipses. Major lunar or solar eclipses are relatively uncommon.


Moon Software
If you want to follow the phases of the moon, you should definitely take a look at QuickPhase Pro, our flagship moon software product for your personal computer. This attractive and fun software covers thousands of years of past and future moon phases and is easy to use.

Click Here For Recommended Moon Software & Products

http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeMon Jul 12, 2010 7:27 am

The funny thing is that before I posted this--I thought maybe it's a new moon tonight(therefore i can't see it), so I went online to check the weather icon and it showed the moon as crescent......hence my question scratch

OK thanks, new moon--good time for manifesting sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeMon Jul 12, 2010 12:23 pm

lol!

sorry Louise EX

i was making an assumtion (yeah yeah, i know) that since we had been posting about the esclipse
that you would know we can only have a solar esclipse at new moon
and a lunar esclipse at full moon
sigh...
sometimes i just get ahaed of myself.. strapped down

here's a explaination if anyone is interested
http://www.hermit.org/eclipse/why_cycles.html

hypnotisedb

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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeMon Jul 12, 2010 1:31 pm

sky otter wrote:
lol!

sorry Louise EX

i was making an assumtion (yeah yeah, i know) that since we had been posting about the esclipse
that you would know we can only have a solar esclipse at new moon
and a lunar esclipse at full moon
sigh...
sometimes i just get ahaed of myself.. strapped down

here's a explaination if anyone is interested
http://www.hermit.org/eclipse/why_cycles.html

hypnotisedb


Any good pics of the magnetic lines flowing from the event that occurred on the 11th whilst the soccer world cup was being played out ?

I have not found any yet mate!
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeMon Jul 12, 2010 5:41 pm

Quote :
here's a explaination if anyone is interested
http://www.hermit.org/eclipse/why_cycles.html

Very nice link. Sure helps to visualize things.

Can really see why eclipses can have an effect on the earth's gravitational pull and thus earthquakes.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeMon Jul 12, 2010 10:24 pm

Also, it has to have risen! You need to check the rising and setting times as well as the phase.

Sorry if this is kind of obvious, but this thread has me boggling.

Google sky can help as well I think work out where everything is supposed to be at certain times.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeTue Jul 13, 2010 5:42 am

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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeTue Jul 13, 2010 7:44 am

lol!


yeah..it really gets involved..but when you see the how of it m then it is easier to understand the waht of it...

and while astronomy and astrology are now way apart..you can see how they were once one and the same
science explains what is happening to the planets
and astrology explains how it affects us on a personal magnetic level...
and i agee with anchor on this
it is mind bloggling
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeTue Jul 13, 2010 10:44 am

Sky, the occurrence of the World Cup Soccer Final and a Solar Eclipse on the same date to me says that both Astronomy and Astrology in certain circles are still well adhered to, and makes me wonder what the significance of that careful planning was, and if at all the planning succeeded for those swarmy little men that wear black suits with deep pockets. LOL

Definition of Swarmy (fits the suits to a tee LOL)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Swarmy

Thanks for the link to the pics over the Easter Island Statues Louise!

I'm off to check a telescope company to see what they bring up, will report if I find some good pics ;)

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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeTue Jul 13, 2010 10:55 am

Heck, forgot about the Iceinspace forum

Partial Lunar Eclipse with some interesting highlights ;)

Image taken from this thread located on iceinspace:

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=62836

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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeTue Jul 13, 2010 11:17 am

cheers

wow Soma..that forum is a keeper...one day i hope i understand my camera better
but i really liked this image...it looks like a giant melon in space with the center indent and all the lines radiating out
thanks
opps..sorry but i don't have nay info on the soccer stuff

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PostSubject: Re: Where's the moon tonight   Where's the moon tonight Icon_minitimeThu Jul 15, 2010 10:56 am

Sky!

Searching around the web for Amateur Astronomers is a great way to pass time!

When I'm in one of my *moon phases* I can spend a whole night looking over these sorta forums scouring for some good images!

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