2 dead after hours in Ariz. sweat lodge

By FELICIA FONSECA (AP) – 54 minutes ago
PRESCOTT, Ariz. — Two people who died after sitting in an Arizona resort's sauna-like sweat lodge were identified Saturday as a 40-year-old Wisconsin man and a 38-year-old New York woman.
James Shore of Milwaukee and Kirby Brown of Westtown, N.Y. died Thursday night after being overcome in a sweat lodge during a spiritual cleansing ceremony. Nineteen others were taken to area hospitals, but most were soon released. One remained in critical condition on Saturday.
Yavapai County sheriff Steve Waugh said Saturday that his detectives are focusing on self-help expert and author James Arthur Ray and his staff as they try to determine if criminal negligence played a role in the deaths. No charges have been filed.
The resort is owned by Michael and Amayra Hamilton, who have declined to comment. Ray's spokesman expressed condolences Friday, but wouldn't talk specifically about the deaths. Ray's company, James Ray International, is based in Carlsbad, Calif.
Authorities haven't determined the cause of the deaths and illnesses, but ruled out carbon monoxide poisoning. The incident happened at the Angel Valley Retreat Center just outside scenic Sedona.

Hmmmmm....something smells very fishy about this.

Oh that is so sad WH,

It makes me think that there could be only one reason why this would happen. I know many many that have gone there in the last years and nothing like this has ever happen before. It really bothers me but I guess I can't say I am surprise. The ones that want there "secret" guarded will go to any means.

i agree linda and mn.....
perhaps they are trying to throw negative energy
at sacred traditions/places.... if any of you have ever
participated in a sweat lodge, you will know how it
feels and what it does to your body.... these 2 people should
have been able to "get out" once they were feeling stressed.......
(i always sit by the entrance for fast retreat, just in case...)
you will notice the article described this particular ceremony as
"crude":

"Ray rented the facility as part of a five-day "Spiritual Warrior" retreat that promised to "absolutely change your life."
Waugh said the 64 people who were in the crude sweat lodge had fasted for 36 hours, then ate a breakfast buffet on Thursday morning. After various seminars on Thursday, they entered the sweat lodge at about 3 p.m."

this incident reminds us: BE CAREFUL WHO YOU CHOOSE TO LEARN FROM.......

here is james arthur ray's upcoming event info:

World Wealth Summit
World Wealth Summit is a chance for you to network with influential people... These are people who have been on the same path you're on or may possibly be further along that path... Chances are you'll have a certain affinity with them.

Event Location: San Diego, CA (Oct 16-17, 2009)
Referred by:

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gee, and a bargain at $797.00

Here is a forum talking about this cult and the incident.

http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,77450,77482

slammin' the secret a bit, here we go.....
(hey, anyone, i am open to any contrary, logical, truthful info...)
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So there you have it. The law of attraction is NOT the only secret. As a matter of fact, its not a secret at all. It’s not a law. It never has been and never will be. So the teachers of the secret are now creating a new secret, a new mythology, a new hoax called “the law of right action.” Aren’t we all lucky that the “philosophers and teachers” of the secret are the only ones who know all the secrets of the Universe. And they are willing to share them with us for the enlightenment of humanity. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I guess I’m just destined for the “kingdom of hell.” - - John Alexandrov


The Secret Hoax Continues

this response is right on, quoted for educational purposes
and properly linked/credited below
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rediculous.this event should not have happened.that man had no business running a sweat lodge, and collecting large sums of money for the event.in our tradition, the only time money is exchanged is to provide an honorarium for an elder or elders attending said event(s) for their time lodging and travel expenses.I have participated in sweatlodge ceremonies for the past 12 years..and not once have i ever encountered such a lack of understanding of the ceremony as i have hearing and reading about this tragic event.it is unfortunate that this has beautiful ceremony has become a money grabbing newage exploitation of a time honored tradition.

Comment by jennifer | October 10, 2009 | Reply
http://christinewhelan.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/james-ray-death-lodge-when-will-we-learn/

jennifer

Exactly why I have never followed any gurus or paid money to be "enlightened." Knowledge is free when you take the time to really look inside and connect to your own spirit.

there are no short cuts....
ya buys ya ticket, ya takes da ride
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when you are in search of knowledge/truth, teachers
will present themselves to you and all they ask in
return, is that you pay attention to the lesson - my
teachers have never asked that i follow... or that i
believe in something cuz they said so - they simply
remind me of something i already know, sometimes
buried deep, like treasure, so it's worth digging

That's right WineHippie! We have to search for the truth and we know when we find it because the answers are already inside of us.