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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:18 pm | |
| I've worked or been around Reiki healers, chiropractors, acupuncturists, shamans, faith healers, etc. both here and overseas.
I've learned many things just by watching what the healer does and how the patient responds.
I detest medical doctors for obvious reasons. You can call me a negative person all day long, but I know who I am and what I stand for.
If some things have risk in it, then I choose to avoid them....doesn't that make sense? I am merely sharing my own personal views on getting "help" and why I choose to only use my own energy. Everybody has to make up their own mind. True? | |
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PsiForce Member
Number of posts : 31 Location : Everywhere and everywhen Humor : Yes Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Reiki Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:37 pm | |
| It is wonderful that you know who you are and where you stand. I applaud you. However, it is also rather telling when you can't see your own post as being somewhat negative. Use your own energy as you see fit. No one is trying to make you use outside energy. However, your own postings suggest that if person A allows person B to use their energy upon them, bad things will happen so don't rely upon others and rely only upon yourself. Unfortunately not everyone can rely upon their own energy as they don't even know how to access it. It is why a person like Dr. Usui who developed the Usui Reiki system came into existence. He wanted to spread it to others so that they may help themselves and each other. Avoiding risk does make sense but sometimes risk happens. You could wake up one day and be driving down the road and get hit by a car causing an accident. The next day you wake up and decide you just won't drive ever again because there is a risk I might get hit again? You could leave your house and a bird takes a crap onto your head. Do you stop going outside? You run the risk of being pooped on again. The very act of living/being alive is risky. PsiForce - Linda wrote:
- I've worked or been around Reiki healers, chiropractors, acupuncturists, shamans, faith healers, etc. both here and overseas.
I've learned many things just by watching what the healer does and how the patient responds.
I detest medical doctors for obvious reasons. You can call me a negative person all day long, but I know who I am and what I stand for.
If some things have risk in it, then I choose to avoid them....doesn't that make sense? I am merely sharing my own personal views on getting "help" and why I choose to only use my own energy. Everybody has to make up their own mind. True? | |
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:01 pm | |
| Thank you very much but I don't need anyone to educate me about everyday "risks".
It is rather "telling" that I am negative? btw, you posting that 3 times has no affect on me.
Like I said, everybody has the right to do as they wish.
If you really want to understand how to access your own energy, you must first listen to your own instincts and get in touch with your inner self. We can teach ourselves whatever we want to learn.
Of course I will use my own energy as I see fit. Thanks for approving that for me.
Also, can you really read minds and look at people from above as your signature states? | |
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PsiForce Member
Number of posts : 31 Location : Everywhere and everywhen Humor : Yes Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Reiki Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:53 pm | |
| Obviously you don't know my signature comes from a song from the Alan Parsons Project. The song itself is called Eye in the Sky. My signature was also directed towards someone but why would you know that? Here's the lyrics: Dont think sorrys easily said Dont try turning tables instead Youve taken lots of chances before But Im not gonna give anymore Dont ask me Thats how it goes Cause part of me knows what youre thinkin Dont say words youre gonna regret Dont let the fire rush to your head Ive heard the accusation before And I aint gonna take any more Believe me The sun in your eyes Made some of the lies worth believing Chorus: I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules Dealing with fools I can cheat you blind And I dont need to see any more To know that I can read your mind, I can read your mind Dont leave false illusions behind Dont cry cause I aint chnaging my mind So find another fool like before Cause I aint gonna live anymore believing Some of the lies while all of the signs are deceiving I didn't know my postings were supposed to have any sort of effect of you. I already know how to access my own energy thanks. I've been doing so since I was a kid. No one said we can't teach ourselves what we want to learn. No. I never said you were negative. Please stop trying to twist my words. Maybe you should go back and re-read what I typed. Then again, you could probably just go edit my post to say whatever if you wanted unless only an Administrator can do that. I said it is rather telling that you can't see that your own posts seems to be somewhat negative. Being obtuse much? Maybe it's the water... Does the number three have some sort of significance for you? Do you think I am trying to cast some sort of spell or something? I was neither approving or disproving how you use your own energy. I was merely saying feel free to do what you want with it. It is your energy. Help yourself, help others or don't. Energy healing and the like isn't necessarily a direct result of having "dark entities" show up to harass you either. What I take issue with is your whole seemingly doom and gloom approach to energy healing that your posts seem to convey. It starts out all negative and then ends on a positive. The positive being self-healing and relying on your own energy. The negative being I don't allow anyone to touch me, etc because it all seems to lead to dark entities. This isn't a direct quote here just a summary. In my opinion, you might have more members on this board if you weren't so confrontational. Avalon seems to be going down to hell in a handbasket. Lots of confrontational people there. A lot of people started leaving because of it. Meh. I am done. This useless exchange of words will just keep going around and around and around. I am not here to try and change your mind on anything. Your mindset is already set in its ways and you will see what you want. Do what you will with your time and energy. I simply do not care. I am merely here to read and maybe post to threads that might interest me. Now perhaps not so much. PsiForce - Linda wrote:
- Thank you very much but I don't need anyone to educate me about everyday "risks".
It is rather "telling" that I am negative? btw, you posting that 3 times has no affect on me.
Like I said, everybody has the right to do as they wish.
If you really want to understand how to access your own energy, you must first listen to your own instincts and get in touch with your inner self. We can teach ourselves whatever we want to learn.
Of course I will use my own energy as I see fit. Thanks for approving that for me.
Also, can you really read minds and look at people from above as your signature states? | |
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:18 pm | |
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No. I never said you were negative. Please stop trying to twist my words. Maybe you should go back and re-read what I typed. Then again, you could probably just go edit my post to say whatever if you wanted unless only an Administrator can do that.
I said it is rather telling that you can't see that your own posts seems to be somewhat negative. Does the number three have some sort of significance for you?
Do you think I am trying to cast some sort of spell or something? This is a forum where we share our views and not everybody agrees with each other. Why do you take it so personal and get so upset when I state my views or choices? You asked the questions and I answered them. You are free to do or think as you wish like I have repeatley said. How interesting that you are suggesting that I would edit your post or twist your words to my liking. Actually the number 4 means something to me, not 3. Do I think that you may try to cast a spell or something?Now THAT IS A VERY ODD THING TO SAY. | |
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PsiForce Member
Number of posts : 31 Location : Everywhere and everywhen Humor : Yes Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Reiki Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:49 pm | |
| I see nothing odd about what I said. Sorry to burst your bubble but I am not some sort of magic wielding spellcaster. However, I do know a tad bit about Wicca and how the number 3 is significant. I wasn't the one who even brought up the #3. You were. You made it sound like there was some sort of significance behind it. Agreed that this forum is meant to share views and not everyone will see eye to eye. However your style of responding to someone else leaves much to be desired. You are rather obstinate about everything you post. I'm sorry. I don't recall anywhere in this entire dialogue between us where you have stated that I am free to do whatever I wish. If so, it wasn't addressed to me. How interesting indeed that I would say you are twisting my words as I have seen it happen to other people on other boards. The mod would make whatever modifications they wanted to the given post. Their post would be either modified or deleted for no reason. You did twist what I had stated in a previous post. One of your replies to my post said how "telling" that I am negative( I am negative as in you). I never said you specifically were negative. I said your posts seemed somewhat negative and you can't seem to see that. Look. This is not personal. I am not upset about what you have posted on your own personal views on how you choose to use your own energy and not allow anyone else to help them. Once AGAIN. What I am taking issue with is that your previous post a bunch of posts ago stated that dark entities show up and it was usually as a result of allowing other people's energies near. So by stating that you seem to be IMPLYING that anyone who uses or allows another person's energy to touch them, they will probably have a dark entity show up and harass them. Your post could keep a person who actually might want to try out energy healing but then decide maybe they shouldn't because something bad will happen to me. Bleh. I am done. I am not here to start fights or confront people. I came on to reply to Pilgrim's post to me as he obviously misunderstood my posting. I misquoted my reply to Lightning222. I was at work, in a rush and posting from my phone. I am not here to change your mind as I already know you are set in your ways. I have no intention of changing anyone's mind. I merely read. I might post in reply to something I find interesting and I might even post information. However, I won't put my own spin on it and say it is the gospel truth. No. The reader has to decide what they believe or don't believe. Since I am not here to change your mindset, I will change mine. Let's do the board a favor and just end it here. I have no wish to continue this farce of a dialogue. PsiForce - Linda wrote:
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No. I never said you were negative. Please stop trying to twist my words. Maybe you should go back and re-read what I typed. Then again, you could probably just go edit my post to say whatever if you wanted unless only an Administrator can do that.
I said it is rather telling that you can't see that your own posts seems to be somewhat negative. Does the number three have some sort of significance for you?
Do you think I am trying to cast some sort of spell or something? This is a forum where we share our views and not everybody agrees with each other. Why do you take it so personal and get so upset when I state my views or choices? You asked the questions and I answered them. You are free to do or think as you wish like I have repeatley said.
How interesting that you are suggesting that I would edit your post or twist your words to my liking. Actually the number 4 means something to me, not 3.
Do I think that you may try to cast a spell or something?
Now THAT IS A VERY ODD THING TO SAY. | |
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:17 am | |
| - PsiForce wrote:
- I see nothing odd about what I said. Sorry to burst your bubble but I am not some sort of magic wielding spellcaster.
However, I do know a tad bit about Wicca and how the number 3 is significant. I wasn't the one who even brought up the #3. You were. You made it sound like there was some sort of significance behind it.
Agreed that this forum is meant to share views and not everyone will see eye to eye. However your style of responding to someone else leaves much to be desired. You are rather obstinate about everything you post. Believe me, you are not bursting my bubble and I never said YOU were anything of ANY sort, not one single time. You asked me questions, I answered and never once insulted you. You are the one saying that I "sound" like this or that I "probably" meant that and that my "style" leaves much to be desired and that I am obstinate about EVERYTHING that I post. Oh really? Is that because I state my views about what I happen to believe in and they don't match yours? Interesting that you called me obstinate. ob·sti·nate: Difficult to manage, control, or subdue; refractory. Who is the one getting upset, being judgmental and acting rude? Not me. | |
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:23 am | |
| btw, I stated several times that everybody has the right to do or think as they wish. | |
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PsiForce Member
Number of posts : 31 Location : Everywhere and everywhen Humor : Yes Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:30 am | |
| You obviously can't seem to comprehend what you read.
Once more I had said I had an issue with how you stated energy healing usually leads to dark entities.
I don't care about you or your views. I care about how that statement of yours in posts way back seems to portray. Energy healing in a bad light.
Holistic healing isn't all that mainstream.
Your attitude and the little games you play make me laugh.
Being upset? No. Hardly. Judgental? You've made me laugh again.
Being obstinate? You are.
Rude? Nope. I but call you out on your behavior and you don't like it.
I had an issue with a statement you made in your original post. Not you. You likely decided to turn this discussion into some sort of attack against you.
Laughable.
Will you be hounding me around the board next? Do I get my very own stalker?
I had also said let's do the board a favor and let this discussion die. It seems you won't. I have nothing more to say to you.
Whether your views or opinions match my own is no concern to me.
Once more what did concern me was your statement to the like of people who had dark entities around them was usually because they let other energy near them.
Bleh. Going around and around and around in circle with you is so not appealing.
I suggest we just stop dealing with each other.
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:25 pm | |
| I am not here to start fights either. I am here amongst friends who can discuss things and who care about each other even though we may have different views.
Since you weren't interested in my views, makes me wonder why you kept asking for them. Your comment about me becoming your stalker doesn't surprise me at all, I KNEW that would probably come next.
Saying things like "This useless exchange of words will just keep going around and around" and other insulting statements is typical.
Your superior attitude speaks volumes.
Laugh all you want because when the situation calls for it, I will always be "ob·sti·nate" : Difficult to manage, control, or subdue; refractory.
I have my views and nobody will ever change them to their own liking no matter how much they try. We all have the right to think for ourselves and make our own choices.
btw, My own interpretation of an eye in the sky, means surveillance.
( I can read your mind I am the maker of rules Dealing with fools I can cheat you blind)
p.s. No need to reply.....we are done as you have suggested....twice... | |
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Lightning222 Guest
Number of posts : 2198 Location : here Humor : most definitely Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:14 pm | |
| I have stayed out of this exchange for a reason. First let me say Tom I'm a little disappointed that after your posts regarding PsiForce and finally asking a direct question you did not reply. Second Linda I get the feeling that what really bothered you about PsiForce was his avatar and signature. If that is the case then it was a rash judgement.
Psiforce answered your questions Tom.
I really don't understand what all the accusations are that are floating about. These are stressful times enough we are facing, perhaps this is just a vehicle to release some of those pent up emotions, I really don't know.
I try to never judge another or treat them unkindly in hopes that it will be contagious. Maybe I'm the one who is deluded in thinking this way.
I think it's time for me to take a break from this forum as my presence here seems to be stepping on toes.
One word of advice for all LET IT GO! Get your own houses in order and work on the really important things in your life....uplifting your own spirit and vibrations.
On that note I will say goodbye to all the kind souls I have met here, may we meet again one day. | |
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PsiForce Member
Number of posts : 31 Location : Everywhere and everywhen Humor : Yes Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:26 pm | |
| You should stay Lightning222. The only reason I am here is because you are on it.
My little signature was meant for you considering you were the one who introduced me to the song. I find it a very nice tune and I think it was also used in a tv show some time ago.
I had thought Pilgrim would respond considering I replied to his query. Who do I get instead? Linda. Yick.
My experience here in the very short time I have been active has been less than stellar.
You should stay Lightning.
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:17 pm | |
| None of us are the same and we think and act differently due to our past experiences.
Some of us are more expressive than others and that is OK. Just because sometimes you may not understand what is really going on between 2 people, doesn't mean that you should leave.
When we go through things that appear uncomfortable or speak up about something that we believe in, that doesn't mean that your vibration went down. It will not affect your vibration if you are honest and the words come from your spirit.
Once you are on a certain frequency, nothing you encounter will ever knock you off your path.
I am sorry if I made you feel upset Lightning. You are a very special person and I would hate to see you leave because you are truly needed here.. | |
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Reunite Moderator
Number of posts : 4993 Age : 47 Location : Here Humor : Dry and Wet Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:31 pm | |
| I am disappointed too. What started out as a fantastic thread resulted to 2 new members leaving who had a lot of valuable info to share | |
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PsiForce Member
Number of posts : 31 Location : Everywhere and everywhen Humor : Yes Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:15 pm | |
| - Reunite wrote:
- I am disappointed too. What started out as a fantastic thread resulted to 2 new members leaving who had a lot of valuable info to share
Lightning222 may yet stay. She's already told me she might change her mind. As for me, it depends on if she stays. She and I have been very good friends for years now. I am here on her bequest. I myself have done very little in the way of posting as I like to observe and read a get a feel for the board, hence the lurking. Oh I better not use that word. It's a bad word. (eyeroll). Some individuals here jump to conclusions on little data and some are inflexible in thought. Not really good traits to have... PsiForce
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Reunite Moderator
Number of posts : 4993 Age : 47 Location : Here Humor : Dry and Wet Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:44 pm | |
| Well I hope Lightning222 changes her mind
Peace | |
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micjer Senior Member
Number of posts : 5325 Age : 62 Location : canada Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:25 pm | |
| - Reunite wrote:
- Well I hope Lightning222 changes her mind
Peace I agree with this. | |
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sky otter Senior Member
Number of posts : 4389 Registration date : 2009-02-01
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:30 pm | |
| Hey Lightening 222 and Psi Force... do not leave..some new folks around here is a good thing.. i almost said new blood..yikes unfortunately we have a few here who think they can call the shots and act like their way is the only way.. well i guess to them it is.. not true. for most of us ..although some are very good at intimidation and some are followers most here are honest searching folk looking to share ideas and conversation and crazy things we find in other places.. Lightening i think you have some interesting things to add to the mix and i would ask you to just consider the source Psi Force..i would truly be interested in conversations about healing if you are so inclined.... or anything for that matter... i am totally curious about anything that helps us as individuals to learn more about ourselves neither of you seem to be easily run off..so don't let the pair of them get ya... think of it as strangely funny joy can truly be found everywhere.. welcome to both of you from just another voice typing in the night.. | |
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:46 pm | |
| Hey sky, "the pair" aren't calling any "shots" and aren't running anybody off or intimidating anybody unless they want to feel that way in their own mind.
We just happen to NOT be followers of ANYBODY.....and will continue to speak our mind like everybody else is entitled to do.
Nobody is stopping anybody from discussing topics of interest. Discuss away.
That's what forums are for. | |
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sky otter Senior Member
Number of posts : 4389 Registration date : 2009-02-01
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:00 pm | |
| Linda opinions and such are good things on forums asking what someone means is not a bad thing in and of itself but lately you and tom seem to agressively attack anyone and everyone and just poke at folks for no other reason than meanness and it seems you want to run off anyone not thinking or doing it your way asking questions can be done with kindness as well as curiosity and doesn't need to be accusatory..which your posts lately seem to slant that way that is of course just my own personal observation | |
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:03 pm | |
| Yes, you look at things your own way and I do it my way.
btw, can you tell me who I have attacked and run off? | |
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sky otter Senior Member
Number of posts : 4389 Registration date : 2009-02-01
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:13 pm | |
| i said it seems like you want to run some off if they don't agree with you and your postings have a slant that makes them seem more like an attack than an inquiry.. and it is my observation i think questions can be asked with kindness... | |
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:18 pm | |
| Sky, I don't like being insulted or having anyone suggesting that I could become a stalker.
Maybe you think those are "kind" things to say, but not me. | |
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sky otter Senior Member
Number of posts : 4389 Registration date : 2009-02-01
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:24 pm | |
| i am not going to go in cicles with you Linda..you seem to enjoy that too much for my likeing and who said anything about stalking???
i said questions could be ask more nicely and no one likes to be insulted by you either, in your manner of questioning them
that is also my opinion and observation and i end here..i refuse to do the circle dance you luv so much... i'm much more into line dancing...
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Linda Senior Member
Number of posts : 2496 Age : 76 Location : Sky Wanderer Humor : Of Course! Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Reiki Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:40 pm | |
| Maybe you should go back and read everything one more time to understand my statement.
Yes, no point in going around in circles. Peace. | |
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